Ha ha lol. Sure it's only a joke... Mod Warning Post 69

WindSock

I noticed this facebook group there yesterday. It was set up as a joke initially, for fun I suppose. Now it looks to me as going over the top, especially with the domestic abuse jokes, and the pictures too. Sad thing is, there are loads of guys (and some chicks) thanking the same jokes that are poured out over and over again.
Do you think I am a bit sensitive by being a bit disgusted by it? Or am I right on sister? Heaven knows, I have laughed at some kitchen jokes before too myself, about 15 years ago though. Some of the 'bitch do this' posts don't sit right though.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=info&ref=search&gid=242731297745#/group.php?v=wall&ref=search&gid=242731297745

It seems to have become a sexist free for all at the moment. I did report it but there is no category for sexism, only racism as usual :rolleyes:

Karl Hungus

WindSock wrote: »

Do you think I am a bit sensitive by being a bit disgusted by it?

There's nothing more disgusting than stale jokes tbh.

WindSock

Karl Hungus wrote: »

There's nothing more disgusting than stale jokes tbh.

True.




/ awaits Harry Enfields 'Women know your limits' to be posted...

pikachucheeks

I'm taking it in jest, for the most part.

A few guys I know have joined the group (luckily, none of the guys who post here :P) and I assume they're only doing it for the laugh, rather than to take a serious stab at women.

They think it's funny, to bring back these silly out-dated stereotypes of women to try and annoy us.

I don't think there's any serious malice involved though, or at least, I should hope not.

Although, some of those "jokes" and comments are ridiculous.

"You wanna hear a funny joke? womens rights"

:rolleyes:

Fago!

I reckon even though these people are posting these jokes, they don't actually feel that way.

Some of them are funny, some of them are stupid, and the rest are just beyond mean.

Some of the girls seem to be joining in.

I clicked on the "Photos" part of it and some of the pics are a bit disgusting TBH!

However, I don't take it seriously. They're the "Adrian Kennedy's" of the facebook group world. Just tryin to be controversial. (At least I hope)

Silverfish

WindSock wrote: »

True.




/ awaits Harry Enfields 'Women know your limits' to be posted...

That won't be happening in this thread.

Pushtrak

There are lots of idiots on both sides of the gender fence. Obviously, that group is going to attract more of the intellectually challenged from one side than the other.

g'em

WindSock wrote: »

Do you think I am a bit sensitive by being a bit disgusted by it?

Nope, not at all. Laughing at these jokes over and over establishes a tolerance for them. A tolerance for them can, over time, establish a sense of normality in them. They're in ridiculously bad taste.

southsiderosie

Ugh.

I hate facebook "cause" status updates, so I'm generally sympathetic to the idea of an anti-cause update group. But this goes beyond the limits of bad taste. It's one thing to use a silly 50's style photo - it's quite another to use real anti-domestic violence ads, or repeatedly use the word bitch. Although, to be honest, reading through some of the comments, it could have been a thread in AH...

WindSock

g'em wrote: »

Nope, not at all. Laughing at these jokes over and over establishes a tolerance for them. A tolerance for them can, over time, establish a sense of normality in them. They're in ridiculously bad taste.

Yeah, when reading the page, I was reminded by this article, posted in another thread a few days ago;

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2010/0104/1224261594914.html

Unmerited jokes are a travesty of the feminine character

JANUARY 4TH, 1923




FROM THE ARCHIVES: This column, on what was effectively the women’s page of The Irish Times in 1923 was written by someone using the pen-name Lumex and could be seen, perhaps, as an early plea for political correctness as well as illustrating some of the constant features of all progress in women’s rights.

EVERYONE ENJOYS a joke, and no one more than woman – even at her own expense. When one comes to think of it, has not woman herself been an unfailing subject for funny stories in every pantomime, every comic paper, and most after-dinner speeches? The fund of jokes has not by any means reached the point of exhaustion yet.

Many of them are well-merited, many true to life, and others again are redeemed by their inherent wit; but a host are still going the rounds about which something should be said in a quiet way, for they are both unjust and unmerited, so far-fetched in their exaggerations that they are a travesty of the feminine character.

And women themselves are, perhaps, too ready to pass these latters over with a generous smile.
You know what has been said about giving a dog a bad name. Is it wise, think you, dear womenfolk, to allow this type of unworthy joke against yourselves to always pass unheeded? It hurts sometimes, and not because it is turned against yourselves, but because of something in it that is really an injustice.
Even in wit there should be a margin left for an element of fair play and a certain kindliness of spirit. For ridicule can be as deadly in effect as a serpent’s sting; it can spread wrong ideas in a more potent and telling way than any precept couched in direct and forceful terms could convey.
If a simple case in point is needed – the first woman to ride a bicycle in the public street was stoned; she was ostracised by society, denounced from the pulpit, the theme of ribald song, the butt of the ignorant.

And yet, what more harmless than the poor bicycle; what more essential to every-day needs, and what has contributed more largely to her present-day freedom? For it was the happy thought of the bicycle that released her once and for all from the thralldom of the trailing skirt, the tight waist, the embroidery frame, and their natural concomitant – the never-ending doctor’s bill!

Each stretching of the wings has brought with it the same list of persecutions in a greater or less degree; university education, political freedom, the entrée to the professions – all alike had to be won in the teeth of the bitterest opposition from the unthinking masses.
So public opinion is a force to be reckoned with – and of very much greater concern to women than to men. Every little counts, and no opportunity should be lost for educating the popular mind to a healthier idea, a truer conception of the feminine.

A cheap jibe at her sex no woman should allow to pass without a protest, in some form or other, to the perpetrator. In recent years, the low-water level has undoubtedly been raised, but all would benefit by the raising of it a little higher still.
But there are jokes and jokes, and some of the best are those centering around woman.

Human failings can quite well be made the subject of merriment without hurting if presented in the right way. For example, the old pantomime rhyme –
“Put two old women to two cups of tea,
And they will talk of more scandal than ever could be.
Put two old men to two glasses of beer,
And they will talk of more work than they could do in a year.”
Another instance in which the sharpness of a thrust was robbed of its hurt by a sheath of wit was provided by the following story:- A man called upon to propose a toast to the first and newly-admitted lady members of his club expressed his pent-up feelings in the words –
“To the ladies! Once our superiors, now our equals.”

Fun, frolic, laughter – this work-a-day world needs as much as it can get; but the milk of human kindness should be dispensed at the same time with a generous hand

Thinking of this reminded to challenge this sort of crap everytime it arises. There is trying to be funny, then there is a bad taste feeding frenzy. I think if you want to make bad taste jokes, do it where it is accepted, out of the public eye for instance.

Replace the word 'bitch' with 'n1gger' and we'll see how long it lasts.

jellie

Looking at the group I thought it was a bit stupid but didnt find it particularly offensive, just took it as a joke. To be honest, women all posting their bra colours on facebook seems a bit odd to me, i got the mail and didnt do it cause i doubt anyone cares what colour my bra is.

But i looked at the pictures and some of them are REALLY offensive & worth reporting.

Karl Hungus

g'em wrote: »

Laughing at these jokes over and over establishes a tolerance for them. A tolerance for them can, over time, establish a sense of normality in them.

Nonsense. Laughing at something in the context of a joke doesn't do any such thing, any more than people who tell sick jokes establish a sense of normality with dead babies. It's the same as the whole 'desensitization' malarkey you hear aimed violence in films and TV, but no matter how many times you see Bruce Will shoot someone onscreen, it doesn't establish a sense of normality with seeing someone shot in real life.

Believe me, I've laughed at my fair share of hideously offensive, racist, sexist and otherwise in bad taste jokes, and I certainly don't feel any sense of normality in any of it though. More often than not, a joke is just a joke.

I'll leave you with this, enjoy:

g'em

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Nonsense. Laughing at something in the context of a joke doesn't do any such thing, any more than people who tell sick jokes establish a sense of normality with dead babies.

Dead baby jokes are accepted as bad taste, it's a verbatim topic for most people. Anti-women jokes on the other hand are much more widely tolerated and there *is* certainly a sense of normality about them. They don't get challenged as often, they don't get frowned upon, and just as Windsock asked in her OP, when they are challenged we run the risk of being seen as overly sensitive.

Karl Hungus wrote:

More often than not, a joke is just a joke.

That doesn't make it funny and it doesn't mean it's right. I find the 'jokes' about domestic abuse in particular extremely offensive - it's an issue that's still struggling to be taken seriously by a lot of people, and these kinds of things just don't help.

A joke is definitely not a joke when it seeks to undermine and belittle, which is, imho, what those pictures do.

WindSock

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Nonsense. Laughing at something in the context of a joke doesn't do any such thing, any more than people who tell sick jokes establish a sense of normality with dead babies. It's the same as the whole 'desensitization' malarkey you hear aimed violence in films and TV, but no matter how many times you see Bruce Will shoot someone onscreen, it doesn't establish a sense of normality with seeing someone shot in real life.

Well, there is laughing at something, hell I have laughed at and told some hideously offensive jokes in my time, what makes them funny is that it is sort of 'forbidden' or taboo. I think that is why people laugh at these jokes mostly. It is not an intention to offend personally the group at the butt of the joke.

Then there is sticking the boot in, this is something that is intent to offend and rides in the shadow of the joke.

Example:

Joke: a horse walks into a bar and the barman asks 'why the long face?'

Idiot: haha lol. Stupid horse with it's ugly long face, I hope it get's pwnd next time it walks into a bar and is sent off to the glue factory.

Horse: Hay, that's not very nice

Idiot: Lighten up, it's just a joke. Jeez.

Orla K

I hate things like that. It's still being sexist even if it is hiding behind a 'joke'.

That kind of 'humour' is the main reason I don't go into AH, I just end up getting píssed off at the stupidity of others.

Karl Hungus

WindSock wrote: »

Then there is sticking the boot in, this is something that is intent to offend and rides in the shadow of the joke.

Example:

Joke: a horse walks into a bar and the barman asks 'why the long face?'

Idiot: haha lol. Stupid horse with it's ugly long face, I hope it get's pwnd next time it walks into a bar and is sent off to the glue factory.

Horse: Hay, that's not very nice

Idiot: Lighten up, it's just a joke. Jeez.

Is that what's actually happening here though?

g'em

I'd say so, yeah. Heaps of boot sticking.

Moriarty

g'em wrote: »

Dead baby jokes are accepted as bad taste, it's a verbatim topic for most people. Anti-women jokes on the other hand are much more widely tolerated and there *is* certainly a sense of normality about them. They don't get challenged as often, they don't get frowned upon, and just as Windsock asked in her OP, when they are challenged we run the risk of being seen as overly sensitive.

Why do you feel the need to challenge them, exactly? Do you feel the need to challenge any risque humour? Most people who tell these jokes tell them because they're funny - and a lot of them are funny, just like a load of other risque subjects. Anyone who tells them for the primary reason of having a dig at women is just having a dig at women through the form of a joke. If it wasn't a joke, they'd just find another way to comment. The idiot is at fault, not the joke. Intent is everything.

g'em wrote: »

That doesn't make it funny and it doesn't mean it's right. I find the 'jokes' about domestic abuse in particular extremely offensive - it's an issue that's still struggling to be taken seriously by a lot of people, and these kinds of things just don't help.

A joke is definitely not a joke when it seeks to undermine and belittle, which is, imho, what those pictures do.

Who are you to say what I can and can't find humerous, exactly? They're all jokes, some of which are very bloody funny.

I still don't find the harsh reality of a dead baby or domestic violence funny, though. Strange, eh?

If you don't like it, feel free to ignore it.

WindSock

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Is that what's actually happening here though?

Here are just a few examples from the Wall posts today...

-Dont make me raise my hand!!! Now go cook me a steak. And dont burn it either bitch!! Oh, and some onion rings too...

-ya bitches back to the kitchen

-What do the 34% of women in the U.K. that suffer from domestic abuse each year have in common? They dont ****ing listen

Reply: 34% of women shouldn't have talked unless spoken to

-Wat do ya call a woman with two black eyes. . . . . . a slow learner!

-I geniunely hope any woman who posts a colour as their status gets breast cancer! That is all!... oh and make me a sandwich, I think I might be getting thinner! lol NAH!!!!

And these are the comments re: pictures. This is what I disliked the most. Both pics & comments:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=search&gid=242731297745#/photo_comments.php?subj=242731297745

Chucky the tree

g'em wrote: »

A joke is definitely not a joke when it seeks to undermine and belittle, which is, imho, what those pictures do.

Nearly all jokes undermine or belittle something or someone.

WindSock

Moriarty wrote: »

If you don't like it, feel free to ignore it.

Would you say the same regarding the furore over the RSA ad a few months ago? Granted that wasn't a joke, but it was sexist none the less, and it obviously irked people.

As I said, I don't mind people making controversial jokes, it's the fact that others see it as a green light to spit as much venom as they can.

elleburp

WindSock wrote: »

-I geniunely hope any woman who posts a colour as their status gets breast cancer! That is all!...

How is that funny?

I don't see the joke :mad:

Massive Muscles

WindSock wrote: »

Here are just a few examples from the Wall posts today...

-Dont make me raise my hand!!! Now go cook me a steak. And dont burn it either bitch!! Oh, and some onion rings too...

-ya bitches back to the kitchen

-What do the 34% of women in the U.K. that suffer from domestic abuse each year have in common? They dont ****ing listen

Reply: 34% of women shouldn't have talked unless spoken to

-Wat do ya call a woman with two black eyes. . . . . . a slow learner!

-I geniunely hope any woman who posts a colour as their status gets breast cancer! That is all!... oh and make me a sandwich, I think I might be getting thinner! lol NAH!!!!

And these are the comments re: pictures. This is what I disliked the most. Both pics & comments:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=search&gid=242731297745#/photo_comments.php?subj=242731297745

Lol. You have some issues if you are offended by this as it is just a certain style of humour.

Moriarty

WindSock wrote: »

Would you say the same regarding the furore over the RSA ad a few months ago? Granted that wasn't a joke, but it was sexist none the less, and it obviously irked people.

As I said, I don't mind people making controversial jokes, it's the fact that others see it as a green light to spit as much venom as they can.

There was furore over an RSA ad? That must have been exciting.

g'em

Moriarty wrote: »

Why do you feel the need to challenge them, exactly? Do you feel the need to challenge any risque humour?

If I hear a joke directed at me that I find personally offensive, I would challenge it. I don't find the jokes on that page funny so I'm challenging them.

Moriarty wrote:

Most people who tell these jokes tell them because they're funny

funny to whom? I'm simply saying I don't find these funny at all, and said why.

Moriarty wrote:

Who are you to say what I can and can't find humerous, exactly?

Where did I say anything of the sort?

Moriarty wrote:

They're all jokes, some of which are very bloody funny.

In your opinion. I don't agree with your opinion. I'm allowed to do that.

Moriarty wrote:

I still don't find the harsh reality of a dead baby or domestic violence funny, though. Strange, eh?

So you find some anti-women jokes funny and others not? Fair enough. Have you a sliding scale of funniness? I'm genuinely not trying to be smart, just wondering. Personally I stopped finding the majority of anti-women jokes funny a long time ago (if I ever did) becuase I hear them quite unsubtly sent in my direction over and over and over again.

Moriarty wrote:

If you don't like it, feel free to ignore it.

I could do, or I could challenge it, which I choose to do, because (and I'll say it again) in my opinion it does harm.

elleburp

Massive Muscles wrote: »

Lol. You have some issues if you are offended by this as it is just a certain style of humour.

Saying that you "genuinely" hope someone gets breast cancer is not a joke, it's sick

WindSock

Moriarty wrote: »

There was furore over an RSA ad? That must have been exciting.

Yarp


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055617730

Note the irony at the end of the OP too. Actually,it was in the WHOLE thread.

Massive Muscles

elleburp wrote: »

Saying that you "genuinely" hope someone gets breast cancer is not a joke, it's sick

That is part of the humour. The faux sincerity of the statement makes it funny.

g'em

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Nearly all jokes undermine or belittle something or someone.

There's a difference between poking fun at and undermining.

WindSock

elleburp wrote: »

Saying that you "genuinely" hope someone gets breast cancer is not a joke, it's sick

Well, that is what irked me about a lot of the comments. Some people don't know the difference between a joke, and being a tool.

amacachi

WindSock wrote: »

Well, that is what irked me about a lot of the comments. Some people don't know the difference between a joke, and being a tool.

Yes, some, out of about 10,000 members. And that's not a gender thing, just because a type of cancer was mentioned doesn't make it so.

WindSock

Huh? Out of 10,000 members, the group has clearly taken an anti-woman turn, of course not all of the 10,000 joined to have a stab, but those that did, do. and have. and are not getting challenged over it because 'it's all a bit of fun'

WTF has a joke about outdated notions of staying in the kitchen got to do with being beaten black and blue and having breast cancer wished upon them?

Chucky the tree

g'em wrote: »

There's a difference between poking fun at and undermining.

Depends who you ask. Some people would consider blonde jokes as poking fun, others would think it undermines them.

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WindSock wrote: »

WTF has a joke about outdated notions of staying in the kitchen got to do with being beaten black and blue and having breast cancer wished upon them?

I think you're taking what one person has said, which I think was stupid of him to say, and generalising it for the whole of the group.

Facebook has over 300 million user. Are you not able to ignore a group consisting of 0.0033333% of them?

Silverfish

-Dont make me raise my hand!!! Now go cook me a steak. And dont burn it either bastard!! Oh, and some onion rings too...



-What do the 34% of men in the U.K. that suffer from domestic abuse each year have in common? They dont ****ing listen

Reply: 34% of men shouldn't have talked unless spoken to

-Wat do ya call a man with two black eyes. . . . . . a slow learner!

-I geniunely hope any man who posts a colour as their status gets testicular cancer! That is all!... oh and make me a sandwich, I think I might be getting thinner! lol NAH!!!!

Is it still funny?

Massive Muscles

Silverfish wrote: »

Is it still funny?

No, only with women. Women telling a derogatory joke about men isn't funny. Why? Because women aren't funny.

Silverfish

Massive Muscles wrote: »

No, only with women. Women telling a derogatory joke about men isn't funny. Why? Because women aren't funny.

I think you might need to have a read of the charter before posting here again.

Boston

Whats the problem with using colours to convey emotions?

Anyway, no grouping likes to be the butt of jokes. Thats all it comes down to. Most of the men posting would be deeply ashamed if challenged

elleburp wrote: »

Saying that you "genuinely" hope someone gets breast cancer is not a joke, it's sick

I hope Iris Robinson gets cancer, I'm not pushed on the kind. If you think I'm joking you're wrong.

Boston, feeling kinda turquoise

Nevyn

If domestic voilience was a thing of the past such jokes maybe come funny but
while 1 in 7 women experience physical domestic abuse in the home and 1 in 17 men experience the same they are not funny.

"We have been asked by many people to accept that women are making progress, because one sees our presence in these places where we weren't before. And those of us who are berated for being radicals have been saying:

'That is not the way we measure progress. We count the number of rapes. We count the women who are being battered. We keep track of the children who are being raped by their fathers. We count the dead. And when those numbers start to change in a way that is meaningful, we will then talk to you about whether or not we can measure progress.'"—Andrea Dworkin"

Ickle Magoo

It's not funny, it's sad.

It's a sad that some men still feel so insecure and threatened by the opposite sex and some women have so little respect for their own sex that making jokes about the pain and fear some women have suffered at the hands of a man is a worthwhile and humorous activity.

When I read the comments I wasn't so much outraged at what they said as curious as to what kind of son or brother finds sexism or domestic violence funny enough to join a group or post a comment. The whole thing stinks of ignorance, desperation and fear, rather than hatred.

Warfi

g'em wrote: »

I'd say so, yeah. Heaps of boot sticking.

Some people get a kick out of belittling something important because they're making the self-deprecating joke that they just notice the inconsequential details and don't get the big picture.

This facebook group looks plain lousy....if people want to be self deprecating, surely it can be done without dragging someone else's personal hell and torture into it?

Boston

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

It's not funny, it's sad.

It's a sad that some men still feel so insecure and threatened by the opposite sex and some women have so little respect for their own sex that making jokes about the pain and fear some women have suffered at the hands of a man is a worthwhile and humorous activity.

When I read the comments I wasn't so much outraged at what they said as curious as to what kind of son or brother finds sexism or domestic violence funny enough to join a group or post a comment. The whole thing stinks of ignorance, desperation and fear, rather than hatred.

The sad thing is the women who are go insecure in your own identities that they pander to those men who propagate these ideals.

Ickle Magoo

Absolutely, that too. You just know anyone who has actually been witness to or had to suffer domestic abuse wouldn't touch a group like that with a bargepole so it's just a bunch of ignorant shysters trying desperately to seem funny and relevant and hip to other equally ignorant wanna-be funny men - and the inevitable moll's that seem to bizarrely crop up around even the most anti-women of men. Go figure.

Moriarty

g'em wrote: »

If I hear a joke directed at me that I find personally offensive, I would challenge it. I don't find the jokes on that page funny so I'm challenging them.

How is the facebook group directed at you? Does it have your name in it? Are you seriously attempting to be offended for all 3 billion odd women on the planet? Do you spend your entire life looking to be offended so you can deploy your righteous indignation, or is this unusual?

g'em wrote: »

funny to whom? I'm simply saying I don't find these funny at all, and said why.

Funny to me. Funny to quite a lot of people, going by the popularity of it. Not funny to you.. so you can move on then, I guess? Would you like everyone that's ever told a joke you don't agree with to give you your five minutes spent acting indignant back to you or... what?

g'em wrote: »

Where did I say anything of the sort?

The implication of your first post was that you fully agreed with windsock reporting the group in an attempt to get it removed as it didn't agree with your sense of humour. Your other posts in this thread seem to reinforce that view. Saying that it isn't a joke doesn't make it so - the implication that I shouldn't find it funny is very much telling me what I can and can't find funny.

g'em wrote: »

In your opinion. I don't agree with your opinion. I'm allowed to do that.

That's great. So you recognise that people can have different opinions on this then? Progress. I'm allowed to find it funny, you're allowed to not find it funny. You're not going to make me suddenly not find it funny, I'm not going to make you suddenly find it funny, so we can all move on with our day and recognise the wonderful differences that make up the human race... right?

g'em wrote: »

So you find some anti-women jokes funny and others not? Fair enough. Have you a sliding scale of funniness? I'm genuinely not trying to be smart, just wondering. Personally I stopped finding the majority of anti-women jokes funny a long time ago (if I ever did) becuase I hear them quite unsubtly sent in my direction over and over and over again.

No, I find good jokes funny and poor jokes not funny. It really doesn't matter what the subject matter of the joke is, I can recognise it for a joke; you know, something not to be taken seriously.

g'em wrote: »

I could do, or I could challenge it, which I choose to do, because (and I'll say it again) in my opinion it does harm.

Challenge it here? Fair enough, pretty pointless though unless you're looking for somewhere to rant about everything that ever annoys you ever.

"Challenge it" by trying to get it removed from facebook? Fair enough, I can't stop you feeling offended for every woman on the planet. I can say you're overly-sensitive and seem to just be looking for a fight to show how i-dont-take-no-**** you are though. Great attitude, that.

Silverfish

Moriarty, you seem to want to make this personal.

Bear in mind you are posting in the Ladies Lounge, on a discussion on violence towards women, and yet you seem shocked that some women don't see the humour in it.

To be perfectly honest, if you don't think that ladies can discuss issues that affect ladies in the ladies lounge without being attacked, perhaps this forum is not for you.

Boston

Silverfish wrote: »

Moriarty, you seem to want to make this personal.

Bear in mind you are posting in the Ladies Lounge, on a discussion on violence towards women, and yet you seem shocked that some women don't see the humour in it.

To be perfectly honest, if you don't think that ladies can discuss issues that affect ladies in the ladies lounge without being attacked, perhaps this forum is not for you.

It's not the rant and rave forum either, where people can rant and not be challenged. Your post is actually key to this Moriarty - G'em disagreement. You[ along with most of the women posters] see this thread as a discussion of domestic violence and how humour is being used to make light of a serious issue. Moriarty sees it as a thread about censoring based on good taste.

I agree with both G'em and Moriarty. To take an example, I bet I've laughed at a joke about rape. I'm positive I used the term to describe doing poorly e.g. "that exam totally raped me". At the same time I don't think rape is funny and have taken people to task both online and real life who attempted to downplay it. To my mind there's no contradiction there.

The only conclusion which will come out of this is that humour is subjective and you can't have hard and fast rules about it.

Silverfish

Boston, I am not discussing moderator warnings to other posters with you on this thread.

It may not be the Ranting and Raving forum, but people are still expected to keep it civil. Its in the charter.

Moriarty

Silverfish wrote: »

Moriarty, you seem to want to make this personal.

I'm commenting on the complete-missing-of-the-point of a fad group on facebook, nothing more.

Silverfish wrote: »

Bear in mind you are posting in the Ladies Lounge, on a discussion on violence towards women, and yet you seem shocked that some women don't see the humour in it.

I think you misread the OP. This is a thread about a farce group on facebook with jokes about women. It's quite plainly a joke - it quotes probably the most repeated and lampooned joke in history as it's name. That others clearly misunderstood this is part of the reason for my response.

Silverfish wrote: »

To be perfectly honest, if you don't think that ladies can discuss issues that affect ladies in the ladies lounge without being attacked, perhaps this forum is not for you.

Facebook groups affect women? I don't think so. Facebook groups appear to affect overly sensitive people though.

Abuse certainly does affect women, but it obviously isn't a thread about abuse - everyone posting in this thread is in plain agreement about the wrongs of that. There's no debate on that.

Silverfish

Moriarty wrote: »

I'm commenting on the complete-missing-of-the-point of a fad group on facebook, nothing more.

.

Can you explain the point of this facebook group for us then?

I can assure you I have not misread the OP.

Facebook groups may not affect women, but jokes about violence towards women and domestic abuse will affect women.

Boston

Silverfish wrote: »

Boston, I am not discussing moderator warnings to other posters with you on this thread.

Pretty shocked by this response tbh, I'm not challenging your warning, you can infract or ban or whatever Moriarty, its none of my concern, I'm merely pointing out that two different things and being discussed by either side.

Silverfish

Boston wrote: »

Pretty shocked by this response tbh, I'm not challenging your warning, you can infract or ban or whatever Moriarty, its none of my concern, I'm merely pointing out that two different things and being discussed by either side.

And I expect both sides to remain civil.

And this is the Ladies Lounge. So people who cannot be a victim of the violence that is being joked about here, may not understand the full extent of the impact jokes like this can have on people.