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Temple_Grandin wrote: »No idea of the mechanism but it's definitely not a replacement for proper diagnosis from a doctor, it's just handy as a way of testing yourself and another piece of info to present to the doc, it's a powerful indicator that something is up with the thyroid though. It's first thing in the morning so literally when just out of bed so no eating, which will skew the results.
Cool thanks!
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I'm a student, who during the day will eat a ceaser salad or ham salad or something similar to those or a bowl of soup [considering the weather! :rolleyes: ], and dinnner time is usually a pretty substantial dinner, meat and veg or something to that effect. I VERY RARELY eat supermacs or macdonalds or things like that and very rarely on occasion will get a pizza with my friends every couple of weeks maybe or even just once a month [My treat if you could say!] I drink alcohol but not in the same affect as other students, maybe once a week, IF im lucky. Don't drink beer, its usually vodka and a mixer...
Do you have breakfast or generally skip it?
What sort of dressing do you use on the salad?
What type of soup is it, do you have bread with it?
Do you make your own soups, dressings etc or use shop bought?
Do you add salt to your food whilsst cooking or at the table?
Can you give us a few examples of dinners or is it usually meat, spuds and veg?
Can you give us some idea of the portion sizes (by comparing them to a household object we'd all recognize) and do you eat late at night or just before bed?
How much do you reckon you exercise on average a day? What type of exercise is it? Are you properly out of breath from it?
Also even going on the p*ss once a week can clock up a lot of calories esp if the mixer isn't sugar free. How many drinks a week do you reckon you have?
we can't draw any sort of conclusions until we get more detail about your habits I'm afraid so if you can answer these questions it'd help a lot.
I'd say your metabolism may be a bit sluggish but probably nothing too major, it's a sad fact of life that a lot of people can get away with eating 3,000kcals worth of sh*te a day and still be skinny (at least while their young) and others can so much as think about ben and jerry's and they put on a pound.
Theres always a way to work through these problems whether metabolic or just dietary esp while you're young so don't worry too much until you figure out whats going on.0 -
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I would be of the low carb school of thought and I'm currently on a high protein diet that severely restricted carbohydrate diet (temporarily, usually I would jus moderately restrict my carbohydrate intake). However physics is physics and it predominantly comes down to the basic thermodynamic equation:signal terror wrote: »Bullsh*t.The person writing this has a very simplified view and no idea of how the human body works.
calories in - calories out = weight gain (or - weight loss
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There are a few factors that tilt the scales either way: eg insulin, starvation,
Also oodles of fibrous non-starchy vegetables ftw
Unfortunately when people think carnivorous these days they only think of eating muscle. There's a lot more to be had: liver, kidneys, bone marrow, brain, heart, tongue, not to mention all the (non-muscle) fat etc. that contain umpteens of essential fatty acids, and micronutrients.khrystyna100 wrote:Again anything to back yourself up with about there conclusively being NO negative effects to a 100% carnivourous diet in the long term? Anthropological theories don't count.
Arctic inuits would live exclusively off caribou/seal/fish and have virtually zero cases of obesity, atherosclerosis, diabetes, gout etc. I'm not saying it's the best diet, but it can be done quite healthily I've previously read some paper where two white americans males (not a statistically significant number I admit) were put on a diet of caribou for a year without and monitored without any apparent negative side effects. I'm too lazy to source it now, but iirc their macro break down was more or less 90% fat, 10% protein.
OP: I would echo other's comments. The chances of you having a metabolic disorder are very remote. A food diary, it's not as hard as it sounds. Invest in a weighing scales. Counting calories works. I was shocked when I started counting calories and noticed how much was in my morning bowl of muesli...
If that isn't an option then I'll give the general advice schpeel:
For your average punter not counting calories, cutting down/out the bread/potatoes/chocolate/sweets/cakes/pastries and trying to eat a portion of protein with each and every meal (that would be like 1-3 eggs, chicken breast, a tin of tuna, a 100g steak or mince, moderate amounts of cheese, tofu etc.) will do wonders for your waistline.0 -
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ApeXaviour wrote: »I've previously read some paper where two white americans males (not a statistically significant number I admit) were put on a diet of caribou for a year without and monitored without any apparent negative side effects. I'm too lazy to source it now, but iirc their macro break down was more or less 90% fat, 10% protein.
Thanks for the info, I'll have a look for that sometime in college to have a proper look at it.
I wouldn't consider a year an indication of the long term implications though, a lifetime study (or as long as feasibly possible) on the effects of people adopting such a lifestyle without having been raised on it from birth and it being part of their historical food heritage would be necessary to convince me that theres no potential danger from cutting yourself short of the protective components of plant foods.
I think it may suit certain races more than others, just because it works for the inuits doesn't mean it'll work for us.
I'm also inclined to think that in the modern urban environment in particular we're under stresses and strains (chemical, emotional, physical etc) completely alien to our predeccesors that have changed our dietary requirements somewhat.
The huge increase in cancer rates being the obvious example of what may be one of the effects of these new strains and any extra protection we can afford we should go for. The bulk of the research points to fruits and vegetables as being highly protective to a whole host of chronic largely 'modern' diseases.
I personally wouldn't be willing to take the risk vegetarian or not of going 100% carnivorous with the lack of long-term research on the area, at least other low carb diets have plenty of non starchy veg and some fruit in them! I'd prefer to be healthy in the long term than super skinny!
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