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New Boards.ie Terms of Use and Privacy Policy - your feedback welcome
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16-12-2009 2:09pm#1
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Thats the first time ive heard it mentioned. When did that happen?
edit: T&C
These Terms get abused quite a lot. When you quote a news article (a gun violence article perhaps) or register a username with Bertie's name just to make AH jokes, or if people discuss smoking weed, drinking underage, or pirating software or other digital material.[you agree not to]
# post Material that contains violence, or offensive subject matter or contains a link to an adult website
# post Material that promotes or encourages illegal activity
# post Material that infringes any patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright, rights of privacy or publicity, or other proprietary right of any party
[you may not use a username which]
# Contains any profanity, is vulgar or offensive, or promotes an illegal activity;
# Misleadingly impersonates someone else.You agree to waive any moral rights in your Material for the purposes of its posting on Boards.ie and the purposes specified above.
This reads as a backdoor to allowing, for instance, links to torrents etc. doesnt it8.1 Links to other websites
This website contains links to other websites operated by third parties over whom we have no control. Such links are provided for your convenience only and we accept no responsibility or liability in respect of the content or use of other websites.
Some of these sites may contain materials that are objectionable, unlawful, or inaccurate. The fact that these links appear does not mean that we endorse these third party sites or services.
If you do decide to leave the Boards.ie site and access third party sites you do so at your own risk.
I dont see anything wrong with the Privacy Statement but can you expand on this point?
Is that just when we follow a hyperlink to boards (like on google), or is it also when we navigate (type our url) into boards? eg. would you know if I switched over to boards immediately after coming off of youtube?The previous website address from which a visitor reached us, including any search terms used;0 -
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What does all the following mean?
The first bit I get.
You are solely responsible for your conduct and any Material that you submit, post, and/or display on Boards.ie. You agree not to post Material contrary to these Terms of Use. We may, but are not obliged to, remove or limit access to Material from any user which breaches these Terms of Use.
Then:
By posting any Material on or through Boards.ie, you grant us a limited license to use, modify, publicly perform, publicly display, reproduce, and distribute such Materials in connection with Boards.ie or the promotion thereof.
The license you grant to us is non-exclusive, royalty free and fully paid, sub licensable, and worldwide.
You are responsible for making sure that you have all rights to what you post, including the rights necessary for you to grant the foregoing licenses to same.
You represent and warrant that: (i) you own the Material posted by you or otherwise have the right to grant the license set forth in this section, and (ii) the posting of the Material does not violate the privacy rights, publicity rights, copyrights, contract rights or any other rights of any person
You agree to waive any moral rights in your Material for the purposes of its posting on Boards.ie and the purposes specified above.
What does all that mean for the poster? If someone wrote a short story on the writing forum do boards.ie now own that after the 21st?
7.1 Submissions to Boards.ie
You do not have to submit anything to us, but if you do you acknowledge and agree that any questions, comments, suggestions, ideas, feedback, or any other submissions to us which may improve our products, services, or offerings shall become our sole property unless otherwise agreed by us.
By making a submission to us, you grant a nonexclusive, irrevocable, worldwide, perpetual, unlimited, assignable, sublicenseable, fully paid up and royalty free right to us to copy, prepare derivative works from, improve, distribute, publish, remove, retain, add, and use and commercialise, in any way now known or in the future discovered, anything that you submit to us, without any further consent, notice and/or compensation to you or to any third parties.
If you do not want to grant us the rights set out above, please do not make submissions to us.
What does that part mean? If I wrote you some fancy code to speed up the site, it becomes your sole property if you desire?
Should this discussion itself not merit a site wide announcement?0 -
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You know thats a good point. On one hand the T&C is claiming [Intellectual Property; Text; etc] is all surrendered to/owned by Boards, but the other half of the T&C conflicts with the first half, saying you're not responsible for all of the offensive and illegal stuff.... so tbh, which is it?iWillBeReborn wrote: »What does all the following mean?
The first bit I get
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What does that part me
an? If I wrote you some fancy code to speed up the site, it becomes your sole property if you desire?
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what a big fat load of bureaucratic sh1t. i suppose some ppl will love it though. they will learn it and wield it and impose it at every opportunity they deem necessary. with documents like these you really can get that authentic smell of importance and smug satisfaction right into your clothes at only 30 degrees. it all stinks of control and other agendas which dont really suit. and ppl wonder why there is so much red tape in the Dail and why they are so incompetent. it all begins at the lowest echelons in this country
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what a big fat load of bureaucratic sh1t. i suppose some ppl will love it though. they will learn it and wield it and impose it at every opportunity they deem necessary. with documents like these you really can get that authentic smell of importance and smug satisfaction right into your clothes at only 30 degrees. it all stinks of control and other agendas which dont really suit. and ppl wonder why there is so much red tape in the Dail and why they are so incompetent. it all begins at the lowest echelons in this country
Erm, Jazzy, what? Did you have anything constructive to offer at all? Your post is suspiciously troll-ish.0 -
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Erm, Jazzy, what? Did you have anything constructive to offer at all? Your post is suspiciously troll-ish.
well it isnt. its exactly how i feel. you asked for feedback and you got it, if you dont like it dont accuse it of being 'troll-ish' just for the sake of dismissing it.
basically, things like these documents only serve to control. boards is already more of a personality cult instead of discussion board nowadays anyway and these documents will only enforce this. you are turning the site into a day-glo 50's american small town with the village elders and of course, the idiots to be looked down upon by all the normal, respectable folk. the site has become all about moderators and all about the different personalities. why is there "congrats to xxx for becoming a moderator" threads? i thought these were (best word usage here) 'volunteers' or some lark? surely they dont need to be tugged off by the populance to secure their position? from what i can see these documents will grant those that love authority and rules and that need to be important the flexibility to do so. and in true american 50's small town fashion, there is indeed witch hunts, or do i need to clarify my point with a jpg of a random girl from the background of a picture posted on the dating thread with a little mspaint moustache & beard? or perhaps a "profile infraction" for posting nothing offensive at all in the early hours of the morning but one of the golden gods has decided that it falls under the "don't be a d1ck" rule simply because he can? thats the reality and all these policies will only enforce it and that attitudeTime Magazine wrote: »Darragh, he's Jazzy. He dislikes an awful lot about this site but, I presume, has nowhere else to go.
a lot of my friends post here and there are a lot of good aspects of this site. it has a nice soccer and games section even if the former is full of drooling 90's kids full of sugar and no sense. love the dismissive tone tho, really suits my arguement 0 -
what a big fat load of bureaucratic sh1t. i suppose some ppl will love it though. they will learn it and wield it and impose it at every opportunity they deem necessary. with documents like these you really can get that authentic smell of importance and smug satisfaction right into your clothes at only 30 degrees. it all stinks of control and other agendas which dont really suit. and ppl wonder why there is so much red tape in the Dail and why they are so incompetent. it all begins at the lowest echelons in this country
"Damn Hippies!"
I worry it will just act to Supersede the Charters and the Mods will just point at it to ban people with too. But then, Boards is a legal entity, and you do need a T&C. Theres not much way around that.
I think Stan (Kyle?) Put it best in that Southpark episode with Mohammad and Family Guy - once you pull or censor one thing, you'll inevitably pull and censor more, until there is just so much red tape around that the place will choke itself into inactivity, and ultimately death.0 -
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Maybe I'm being simplistic, I dunno.
I have no doubt that there needs to be a usage policy of sorts on this site, but didn't we always have something along a similiar line in terms of sitewide rules and policies anyway? Wouldn't it be in order to duplicate these, in a TOU format, and pad out as appropriate?
I assume the ultimate driver of this is to keep guys like this happy:
On another note, how can it be that posts can be both the property of boards.ie (in that they can use them as they see fit), and yet the responsibility of the user?
I can understand the latter totally, but we were always told that our posts were our own, and if someone submits a short story, or as someone else exemplified, a vB hack or piece of code, as many do, they now give up any and all rights for doing so?
This is a community, as I'm sure everyone is aware, and as such there is something of a symbiosis between the critical mass of users and the hosting costs involved, due to the happy fact of advertising, and latterly customer interaction as well. Most people don't post here for the love of boards as a uniform and legal entity; they do so for the friends they have here, the problems they seek help with, the solutions they offer, in short, the whole ball of wax.
The language here (which I know isn't unique) seems to indicate that every post is submitted to the altar of boards itself, rather than the congregation. I'd hope that isn't the intention, as it makes those running the site appear to have a grandiose view of what it is, what its function is, and the role it plays to many people, which, and I hope I don't cause offence, is in the majority of cases, a trivial one, occupying a place somewhere within playing tetris and watching Corrie, in terms of daily activity.0 -
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boards is a personality cult due to the fact that everything has become about the different tiers. lets take an active example.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055773205
useless thread posted by a moderator that everyone will come into and go "oh you
" and the generic circle jerk will go on.
if I posted that or any regular user did it would be locked and you may get a warning depending on the mod in question and how anal they are.
that, at a basic level, is how this site has become a personality cult. its all about who you are as to whether you are actually worth listening to or replying to. devore could probably just randomly say "fart" in some thread somewhere and he'd get a load of 'thanks' for it and a good few comments simply because he is devore. it works from the top down and as said, this will only put the top higher.
you asked how that is sooooo:
basically what you have written here is a contract that we have to abide to as long as we post here. im sure its lovely and makes sense and all but what you are missing is the idea and how that will effect ppl. it will give those with power a double backing. they already have the charter (and the circled wagons lest we forget) and now they are going to have a full blown legal contract. mods won't be interacted with as much, instead they will be feared. you either lick their butts or just don't talk or question them, ever. their opinion will have more weight behind it then any others and hence, its no longer a discussion site but rather a personality cult.
the documents are patronising because, sure they apparently need to exist or some such but im not sure of that one because how long have you guys been a private company and you are only getting round to this super important issue now? i don't buy that. i deviate, they are patronising as its very much a "oh yeah, in case you forgot who your daddy is, we are your collective daddys". what of the private forums? what of all the little cliques and such? is this going to be imposed on them just as much as everyone else? and you are controlling what ppl call themselves online now too or am i making that up? who decides that? are you qualified to know what is and isnt offensive or do we just have to trust your opinion? ill let you in on a little secret, opinions dont actually exist they are made up, they only exist in the fabric of thought. on this world there is right & wrong, true & false. shades of grey are just there to make ppl comfortable. 0 -
In the hope that this may dispel some of the 'ownership of content' stuff being debated (this was explained rather well imo by Conor on the mod forum in a similar thread to this where we pretty much asked the same thing).
Basically it boils down to 'boards' as an entity retaining the right to reproduce what you posted to in order to serve it to others - for example, when you read this comment, boards has effectively re-produced and re-used my words in order to serve the page that you are now reading. Without that clause, boards would effectively have to ask my permission every time someone viewed this thread.
That's my take on it anyways.. I don't think there's anything sinister behind it, besides anything you post should be considered public domain as it can be viewed and used by anyone that has access to the internet (unless you're in China) 0 -
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Am i right in thinking that there was always a Terms of Use and Privacy Policy for Boards and visible when signing up?
But must of us skip to the bottom and hit accept
Nothing major really is it.
I see this a Boards securing itself from outside attacks. As it gets bigger, legal letters arriving in the front door will get more frequent (and some for stupid reasons)0 -
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