US: 4x12 - "The Getaway" [** SPOILERS WITHIN **]

J-blk

Well folks, the time we've been all been waiting for is here. I cannot wait to watch this episode and have very high expectations for it - unfortunately, life, work, etc is getting in the way and I won't get to watch it until much later...

TV.com summary:

(I've spoilered a specific part in case anybody wonders into the thread a bit too early... Be warned though, once people do watch the episode, there will be plenty of spoilers found here)

The final challenge between Dexter and Arthur comes.

Debra finds out a long hidden truth.

Rita admits that her marriage is troubled. Batista's and LaGuerta's relationship must face consequences.

http://www.tv.com/dexter/the-getaway/episode/1310981/summary.html?tag=ep_guide;summary

And once again, public poll .

Tristram

Very good.

Drinking time is almost upon me here. Shall report back later! Hope a great season can finish on a high

ozt9vdujny3srf

Craptacular.

Holy Shit.

If part of mitchells cycle is killing a 10 year old boy so the boy stays innocent, then why would he leave dexters kid sitting in a pool of blood?

Mr E

Very good.

Plain and simple : revenge.

Terrific episode, and an absolute knockout ending.
What a great series. How are they going to top that for season 5?

lordgoat

Very good.

20mins through, and i gotta go to work, i knew starting watching was a bad idea...

shanethemofo

Very good.

unbelieveable. Really wasn't expecting that.
Is there deffo going to be a season 5, yeah? Would be a twisted way to end the show!

pwd

Meh. Yes, meh...

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't believe the ending. She said she saw the moon so when could Lithgow have found the time and away from Dexter's notice? Also it was in that same haze that flashbacks occur.

If the start of next season was "It was all a dream," it would be one of the most annoying and ludicrous things ever. No.

Sad ending

pwd

pwd wrote: »

If the start of next season was "It was all a dream," it would be one of the most annoying and ludicrous things ever. No.

Sad ending

Yeah I went back and watched it again and deleted my post. Thanks for quoting it though! :mad:

pwd

Meh. Yes, meh...

Brian Harsh Thug wrote: »

Holy Shit.

If part of mitchells cycle is killing a 10 year old boy so the boy stays innocent, then why would he leave dexters kid sitting in a pool of blood?

I think this was more about dealing with Dexter than his cycle. Leaving his kid leaves him with something to worry about. Killing him would leave Dexter with nothing but revenge

pwd

Meh. Yes, meh...

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah I went back and watched it again and deleted my post. Thanks for quoting it though! :mad:

][cEMAN**

Very good.

I gotta admit, considering all of the thoughts going around about this, and the idea that this might happen, and even with all the whining about her, it was still a very emotional ending to see her there.

To be honest, I don't even wanna think about another series just yet. That image has to sink in first. Damn that was good.

bizmark

Very good.

Jesus i was just thinking to myself that the ending with Arthur was very convenient and easy but then....Didnt see that coming :eek:

jayteecork

Meh. Yes, meh...

I actually opened this thread after Dex killed Arthur and got the spoiler before I saw it.

I was expecting it to be ahappy ending.

However I probably missed something as these things always go over my head but wasn't Rita in a taxi on her way to the airport to go the Keys?

how did Trinity know where she was going and then bring her back to the house?
Can we be sure it was even Trinity that did it?

I think this is going to revealed to be all in Dex's head to be honest.

Mr E

Very good.

Brian Harsh Thug wrote: »

Holy Shit.

If this was your reaction to the episode, can I ask why you voted "Bad, really really bad"? (Its a public poll)

Krieg

Very good.

Mind = Blown

Great episode! Great season

But,

Who killed Rita?
I'm trying to work out how trinity had the time to get her, since he was driving around all day and Dex seemed to be on his tail from early in the day. Guess it was during the mitchell home invasion. Bathtub is his MO, so i guess it has to be him. Might be a bit more interesting if it was suggested it wasnt trinity and leave season 5 open to the next serial killer as being Rita's murderer.

Never liked Rita though i did kinda warm up to her in this season but I dont think ill miss her. Dexters family life is just filler for me and im not completely interested in this whole side story, so im a little wary of how season 5 will play out since its obvious now that most of the filler side of the season will be about how dexter juggles 3 kids while maintaining his night work. Im sure Debra will play mommy to the kids.

jayteecork

Meh. Yes, meh...

I think it's the police Chief, the guy that wanted to fire LaGeurta and Angel. Seems their little romance side plot was actually to get him back into the series.

Something about him doesn't seem right, he also had one of those "tv faces" after Deb left him that implies he knows a lot more about Dexter than previously thought.

Personally speaking, I think it was he, along with Harry, that decided Miami is overrun with scum and normal police work cannot sort out the mess.
So when they found Dexter they decided that they'd mould him into a serial killer that targets the city's vile muderers.
So dex grows up and everything works great. However the police chief(what's his name again) has noticed that dexter's admirable work has gotten sloppy of late. The reason? Rita.

So he kills her. Maybe not him personally but one of his minions. He kills her in the manner of the Trinity so as to have Rita's murder open and shut.
Now Dexter can return to be the efficent killer he once was.

But that's not all. He knows Dexter won't be around forever. So he leaves Harrison in exactly the same bloody situation as young Dex. It would have been impossible for Arthur Mitchell to know the circumstances of Dex's mother's death.
The reason? So Harrison can fit snugly into Dex's shoes when the time is right.

ozt9vdujny3srf

Craptacular.

Mr E wrote: »

If this was your reaction to the episode, can I ask why you voted "Bad, really really bad"? (Its a public poll)

I was a bit raw at the time, found the end a bit shocking :P.

It was more a reaction to what had happened then the quality of the ep Twas a very good ep.

OctavarIan

Meh. Yes, meh...

It gets more depressing if you imagine Trinity and Rita in the bathtub, Trinity probably telling her all about her beloved husband's secret life, baby crying on the floor, then killing her in her ultimate despair.

Prowetod

Very good.

Interesting theory JT.

A brilliant episode, it capped off a fantastic series, possibly the best. I can't imagine how showtime will be able to improve on this, hopefully season 5 will be of the same standard.

jayteecork

Meh. Yes, meh...

OctavarIan wrote: »

It gets more depressing if you imagine Trinity and Rita in the bathtub, Trinity probably telling her all about her beloved husband's secret life, baby crying on the floor, then killing her in her ultimate despair.

lol, I wouldn't dwell on it too much.
It's fiction AFAIK. :rolleyes:

SimpleLogic

Very good.

Wow the end to a terrific season did not disappoint. I like the way the writers aren't saving up potential story lines and are just pushing everything out there. Lots of stuff to think about. Who will look after the kids? Someone said Deb but she is nearly as busy as Dexter. Harrison still has a lot of growing up to do but just because he had similar circumstances to Dexter will he have a dark passenger. I hope Dexter continues for another season but I really really dont want to see it messed up like lots of other shows I have loved have been

lordgoat

Very good.

jayteecork wrote: »

lol, I wouldn't dwell on it too much.
It's fiction AIFAK. :rolleyes:

AIFAK?

As i far a know?:rolleyes:

jayteecork

Meh. Yes, meh...

lordgoat wrote: »

AIFAK?

As i far a know?:rolleyes:

lol, was in the process of editing it but you got me before I finished!

OctavarIan

Meh. Yes, meh...

jayteecork wrote: »

lol, I wouldn't dwell on it too much.
It's fiction AFAIK. :rolleyes:

My thoughts are quite morbid :P

I'm not sad that she's gone though, her death kicks up a ****storm for Dexter in season 5, assuming the writers do a good job with it. I like angry cornered Dexter more than family man Dexter.

Has anyone read the alternate ending? It's embarrassingly bad!

OctavarIan

OctavarIan wrote: »

Has anyone read the alternate ending? It's embarrassingly bad!

Link?

OctavarIan

Meh. Yes, meh...

Deleted User wrote: »

Link?

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/12/13/dexter-season-5-finale-postmortem/

tvnutz

Very good.

WOW! What an episode,and what an ending. Didn't see that coming at all until Rita left the message saying she forgot the plane tickets and had to go back to the house for them. Then I knew she was screwed. Must have been just plain bad luck,walking in to get the tickets and Arthur had probably just arrived.

The final scene was just shocking,Harrison sitting there in the blood and Rita in the bathtub.It took a few minutes for it to settle in. Throughout the entire episode I thought it would be Deb who would be killed since Trinity went to Dexter's old apartment.

Overall this was a fantastic season,especially compared to season 3. John Lithgow was brilliant and has to get an emmy.

SDTimeout

Before i go on. Can someone answer this question

Why was dexter scared, How could deb finding out they were brothers would link to dexter being a serial killer. I must be missing something obvious

awhir

Very good.

wow.....

jayteecork

Meh. Yes, meh...

SDTimeout wrote: »

Before i go on. Can someone answer this question

Why was dexter scared, How could deb finding out they were brothers would link to dexter being a serial killer. I must be missing something obvious

Well it means he's the biological brother of the Ice Truck Killer and also had the same traumatic experience as a child.

Makes sense that they'd have a lot in common.

SDTimeout

Matthews did say that brian was too badly affected by it, Yet dexter was " alright " for adoption.

jayteecork

Meh. Yes, meh...

SDTimeout wrote: »

Matthews did say that brian was too badly affected by it, Yet dexter was " alright " for adoption.

alright for "grooming" you mean.
See my earlier post.

SDTimeout

I did see it and while i love the whole concept of the theory that would push me away from dexter i sadly have to admit. Because that's when it gets a bit too much.

Anyway, i thought the ep was a little slow until the end which was good.

However was it pure luck that rita forgot her things ? Or how are they going to explain all of this. Not to mention there's no real way trinity could have found the house if Dexter Morgan was listed as his old house.

How did Angel not notice dexter had met face to face with trinity before hand is beyond me.

It seems next season is gonna bridge. Which is good and it also seems we may see some aspects from the book creep in. With the losing of the dark passenger

Although considering the book i doubt it's going to be some ancient cult that stops him. The Creamatic Bull Head

Great season, Great Show. Anticipating next year's already

mdwexford

Very good.

I was thinking it was a disappointing finale to a terrific season the whole way through it, was just getting ready to come on here and moan when Rita's phone rang.

Oh my god what a fcuking ending, im in shock.

Is it just a coincidence Arthur had the baby sitting in a pool of blood though, theres no way he could have known about Dexters mother and the bloodbath in the docks is there??

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Very good.

WOW! What an ending! I didn't see that coming at all - my jaw actually dropped...
I'm sad the season is over, but very glad at how it ended, and I'm actually one of those few people who like Rita.

Amtmann

Meh. Yes, meh...

SDTimeout

Well that was quick, it's taken down already

Our man in Havana

Very good.

Lucky I just managed to view it.

Amtmann

Meh. Yes, meh...

Yes indeed. I thought that would be above board, but obviously not. They basically confirmed that it was indeed Trinity who murdered Rita.

J-blk

Very good.

A great end to the season indeed - didn't see the end coming until Rita's phone started ringing in the house... All signs do seem to point to Trinity doing it before he skipped town, but I can't explain Harrison in the pool of blood. Seems like a fluke and maybe something the writers wanted to put in as a link to Dexter's own past, rather than something Trinity specifically did.

Though if it was Trinity, he really was a cold b**stard to the very end - not revealing anything to Dexter when he was on the table, so that Dexter could walk right into it.

Awesome season - right up there with season 1 (Better? Not sure yet...). When does season 5 begin again
?

Amtmann

Meh. Yes, meh...

Reaction seems very divided on other forums. A lot of people don't like the fact that Rita has been killed. They view it as gratuitous excess.

As an audience, I think we had all become very comfortable with Dexter killing somebody's son or daughter every other week. It became 'normal' for us. But it's not normal. It never was. And it was never acceptable.

Dexter has hurt a lot of people, and ultimately he needs to be held accountable for all of this. Rita's death is his fault. He was also indirectly responsible for the death of Paul, her first husband, as well as responsible for Lyla's attempted murder of Astor and Cody. He also placed all of them in danger when he lured Zoe Kruger to his house -- because on that night he invited death into his family home. The real Kyle Butler also died because of Dexter's lies, as well as Farrow. Don't forget Doakes either: he was another good guy who died for Dexter's freedom, a freedom which has led to the deaths of many, many people, most recently Rita.

I think this was an inevitable part of the story. Dexter is a killer, and has been very arrogant and selfish up until now. There was nothing shocking about Rita's murder - it was just a sad consequence of Dexter's chickens coming home to roost. His great 'Can I Have it All?' experiment blew up in his face quite rightly. I like the character a lot, but I think this episode amounts to the writers slapping us across our faces with a wet fish, reminding us all of the show's moral ambiguity.

mdwexford

Very good.

Glad i got in there quick.

At least it confirms it was Trinity stopping some of the crazy theories im reading on various forums.

FearDark

Meh. Yes, meh...

Im going watching this now, Ive had no internet since Saturday and im absolute****inglutely dyeing to see this....

EEEEEK!

Back later

My prediction is that Deb finds Dex performing the ritual of killing Trinity and next season will be Deb hunting Dex.... or maybe not :rolleyes:

amacachi

My only criticism is the voiceover at the end, some plain music in the background through that scene would've been enough and probably made it more powerful, it's not like Hall can't act.

Don't know what to expect for Season 5 now.

mdwexford

Very good.

Furet wrote: »

Reaction seems very divided on other forums. A lot of people don't like the fact that Rita has been killed. They view it as gratuitous excess.

As an audience, I think we had all become very comfortable with Dexter killing somebody's son or daughter every other week. It became 'normal' for us. But it's not normal. It never was. And it was never acceptable.

Dexter has hurt a lot of people, and ultimately he needs to be held accountable for all of this. Rita's death is his fault. He was also indirectly responsible for the death of Paul, her first husband, as well as responsible for Lyla's attempted murder of Astor and Cody. He also placed all of them in danger when he lured Zoe Kruger to his house -- because on that night he invited death into his family home. The real Kyle Butler also died because of Dexter's lies, as well as Farrow. Don't forget Doakes either: he was another good guy who died for Dexter's freedom, a freedom which has led to the deaths of many, many people, most recently Rita.

I think this was an inevitable part of the story. Dexter is a killer, and has been very arrogant and selfish up until now. There was nothing shocking about Rita's murder - it was just a sad consequence of Dexter's chickens coming home to roost. His great 'Can I Have it All?' experiment blew up in his face quite rightly. I like the character a lot, but I think this episode amounts to the writers slapping us across our faces with a wet fish, reminding us all of the show's moral ambiguity.

It was very shocking to see her in the tub, i really thought the season was ending on a happy note (which i wasnt impressed with btw).

Him killing people that deserved to die didnt bother me in the slightest but innocent people have been on the receiving end in one way or another since he started getting sloppy and it was only a matter of time before something went drastically wrong for him, i just didnt think it would be that brutal.

Im interested to see how this will be explained, when the police investigate her death will they blame it on Trinity, why would he have targeted Dexter in particular.

Surely his family are going to be questioned to death and Kyle Butler is going to come up, Deb is suspicious of him being in Trinitys garage and getting to scene so quickly already.

Töpher

Very good.

Wow. Just, wow.

FedEx

Very good.

jayteecork wrote: »

I think it's the police Chief, the guy that wanted to fire LaGeurta and Angel. Seems their little romance side plot was actually to get him back into the series.

Something about him doesn't seem right, he also had one of those "tv faces" after Deb left him that implies he knows a lot more about Dexter than previously thought.

Personally speaking, I think it was he, along with Harry, that decided Miami is overrun with scum and normal police work cannot sort out the mess.
So when they found Dexter they decided that they'd mould him into a serial killer that targets the city's vile muderers.
So dex grows up and everything works great. However the police chief(what's his name again) has noticed that dexter's admirable work has gotten sloppy of late. The reason? Rita.

So he kills her. Maybe not him personally but one of his minions. He kills her in the manner of the Trinity so as to have Rita's murder open and shut.
Now Dexter can return to be the efficent killer he once was.

But that's not all. He knows Dexter won't be around forever. So he leaves Harrison in exactly the same bloody situation as young Dex. It would have been impossible for Arthur Mitchell to know the circumstances of Dex's mother's death.
The reason? So Harrison can fit snugly into Dex's shoes when the time is right.

Interesting theory ... but i think you are way off ....

It was Trinity ... he did it when his house was being searched ...
just before he picked up the Mustang..

FedEx

Very good.

But forgot to say ....

WOW !!!!! JESUS CHRIST THAT WAS A GREAT ENDING!!

sad to see Rita killed off ... i know i didn't really like her but still ...

wonder what will happen next season now ?

jayteecork

Meh. Yes, meh...

FedEx wrote: »

Interesting theory ... but i think you are way off ....

It was Trinity ... he did it when his house was being searched ...
just before he picked up the Mustang..

Nah. Obviously set up to look like it was Trinity's work.
Trinity had no way of knowing where Dex and Rita live, plus she was in a taxi anyway. Even if he came across the house she was well gone.
What did he do? Head out and look for her in the airport on a whim?

If it was Trinity it would have been a Seven ripoff and the writers are too good for that.

Also, he would have had no way of Dexter being found in his mother's blood so it seemed too much like an amazing coincedence, unless of course it was....

DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF MATTHEWS.


You really trust that guy?

From the Dexter wiki
"but most especially by the fact that, before his close friend Harry Morgan committed suicide, he made Tom promise to look after Dexter and Debra; which is what he has done to this day. "

He always knew about Dexter. No way he was Harry's best friend and didn't know about little Dex. He watched as Dexter went about his work around Miami. He reveled as Dexter made vanish those whom the law couldn't touch. But he saw how sloppy Dexter became. He knew there was only one solution. To stop Dexter juggling between Rita and the Dark Passenger.
Rita had to go.
http://dexter.wikia.com/wiki/Tom_Matthews

sweetie

Meh. Yes, meh...

dude, watch it again, Rita laves a voicemail for Dex saying she forgot her passport and was going to come back home and get a later flight. great ending for sure but the episode needed it to finish on a high.

jayteecork wrote: »

Nah. Obviously set up to look like it was Trinity's work.
Trinity had no way of knowing where Dex and Rita live, plus she was in a taxi anyway. Even if he came across the house she was well gone.
What did he do? Head out and look for her in the airport on a whim?

If it was Trinity it would have been a Seven ripoff and the writers are too good for that.

Also, he would have had no way of Dexter being found in his mother's blood so it seemed too much like an amazing coincedence, unless of course it was....

DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF MATTHEWS.


You really trust that guy?

jayteecork

Meh. Yes, meh...

sweetie wrote: »

dude, watch it again, Rita laves a voicemail for Dex saying she forgot her passport and was going to come back home and get a later flight. great ending for sure but the episode needed it to finish on a high.

lol, missed that.

But my theory is still the best right now.
No way it's Trinity.