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sockpuppets wrote: »Yeah i understand what you are saying, but im speaking purely from an enjoyment perspective, its great that gran turismo puts so much work into the simulation side of racing games, but it can be extremely frustrating to play, where as forza is easier to just pick up and play
That's why GT has always had the tag "The real driving simulator". You wouldn't buy Microsoft Flight Simulator and complain that it's not as fun as Ace Combat, would you?
robbie_998 wrote: »Whats your time in the tuned car ?
i managed a 1:43 and the leader is 1:36/1:37
I think mine is a 1:40. My name is the same as on boards so you can check it on the leaderboard. I was 35th or something earlier, and 34th on the "normal" car, though frustratingly I managed to shave 2 seconds off my time earlier before dumping the car on the second last corner. D'oh!0 -
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robbie_998 wrote: »im ahead of you :P
That is all :cool:
It's on, when I get a chance again.
THAT is all. :cool:
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projectmayhem wrote: »That's why GT has always had the tag "The real driving simulator". You wouldn't buy Microsoft Flight Simulator and complain that it's not as fun as Ace Combat, would you?
Yeah, but there are more realistic flight sims on the market than MS Flight Sim, just because it says the real flight simulator does not mean a tap.
There is Over G fighters, its more realistic than the arcade Ace Combat but the physics in Over G can be all over the place at times.
Back to diving games, between GT and Forza, to me Forza 1 and 2 felt exactly like all the other GT games, stiff rigid on rails type of thing. Forza 3 feels alot more natural like this latest GT demo. yeah Forza 3 treats you with kid gloves with all the assists on, thake them off and it's as brutal as the newest GT.
The comparison of MS:FS : Ace Combat = GT : Forza is way off the mark.
MS:FS : Ace Combat is more like GT/Forza : Burnout/Need for Speed.0 -
Burning Eclipse wrote: »Says the man who doesn't have a license to drive? I mean really, what do these guys know anyway? Have you played both games with a wheel out of interest?
those guys know like all other review sites to give biased reviews of big exclusive games
. forza isn't even trying to be a sim but its a nice balance between realism and arcade. 0 -
Burning Eclipse wrote: »Says the man who doesn't have a license to drive? I mean really, what do these guys know anyway? Have you played both games with a wheel out of interest?
You don't need a license to know when a cars physics is "better". Even if I had a license, I still wouldn't know what it's like to throw a car around a hairpin corner at 100KPH.
And I'm sorry, but after enduring the first 3 minutes of those two boring, monotone idiots I'm not sitting through the other 30 minutes to see what they think of GT.Captain Chaos wrote: »Yeah, but there are more realistic flight sims on the market than MS Flight Sim, just because it says the real flight simulator does not mean a tap.
There is Over G fighters, its more realistic than the arcade Ace Combat but the physics in Over G can be all over the place at times.
I know this but I was making a simple comparison. I think you might be reading into it too muchCaptain Chaos wrote: »Back to diving games, between GT and Forza, to me Forza 1 and 2 felt exactly like all the other GT games, stiff rigid on rails type of thing. Forza 3 feels alot more natural like this latest GT demo. yeah Forza 3 treats you with kid gloves with all the assists on, thake them off and it's as brutal as the newest GT.
I drove Forza without any assists throughout the game because it gave you more game credits in each race win, but it's still nowhere near as difficult to handle a car as GT. By difficult, I mean realistic. You can still throw the cars around in Forza in a way that would be completely unforgiven in GT, and in real life. Also, without assists on in forza, somehow the brakes become absolutely torrid things. You get used to it, but it's in no way realistic to have the same braking mechanism on a Ferrari and a Ford focus.
And also the fact that you can rewind time is a bit awful for a "sim" attempt. Sure, you don't have to do it, but if you dump the car into the grass on the final corner of a race you were leading only to return to the circuit in third can be saved by rewinding, there's no fear of driving badly. You take more risks because you can. And everyone does it. No point in showboating and saying people simply don't use that feature - they do. All the time.0 -
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WolfForager wrote: »Just popping in to say:
IT'S NOT A DEMO.
On the main menu screen it says "This is the demo version of the upcoming Gran Turismo 5, due for release in 2010."
If it's not a demo, what is it and why does it refer to itself as a demo?0
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