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Budget fuel implications

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    #62
    .Longshanks.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭.Longshanks.


    Voodoomelon wrote: »
    I saved €3.52 by filling up tonight compared to filling up in the morning. This represents an approximate increase of €91 for me annually, I can live with that. I'm happy enough that they left the motor tax alone.

    I totally agree. But its €91 on top of the €91 last year, and the year before that and the..... thats pi$$es me off


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    #63
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    well did you all fill up tonight??

    was there queues at the stations??


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    #64
    Voodoomelon
    Registered Users Posts: 9,662 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    I was at Maxol in Dundalk around 8pm, place was jammers. Three cars waiting to get at each the five pumps. I actually enjoy when theres a mass run for the pumps, theres a kind of collective disgruntlement mixed in with a misplaced sense of community. :D


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    #65
    alias no.9
    Registered Users Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    How do they compare per kilometer, do you know?

    That depends on the car, the route and the driving style.


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    #66
    Cionád
    Registered Users Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭Cionád


    Voodoomelon wrote: »
    I was at Maxol in Dundalk around 8pm, place was jammers. Three cars waiting to get at each the five pumps. I actually enjoy when theres a mass run for the pumps, theres a kind of collective disgruntlement mixed in with a misplaced sense of community. :D

    haha, just back from the station (I was empty anyway! :)), a good 8 car queue on each side, like a scene from the 70's oil crisis! :pac:


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    #67
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    another excuse for service station owners to screw us over


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    #68
    mickdw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    I couldnt be arsed queueing up for petrol. Had a half tank anyway.


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    #69
    argosy2006
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    A guy i know, has it in writing from customs that you can run your diesel car on RED DIESEL that you can buy in the north,and run ur car down here in the south on it and there is nothing customs can do about it coz its uk customs problem,,as long as you can drive you car out of north with out getting caught by uk cusotms your ok... red diesel is uk's green diesel,,, its about 0.60 euro cent a litre,and customs will not care if u have it in your car down here! or so i,m told,\


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    #70
    mickdw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    That sounds like complete crap to be honest


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    #71
    argosy2006
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    mickdw wrote: »
    That sounds like complete crap to be honest

    yes i thought that too,, this guy i know makes biodiesel, and has dealings with customs all the time, and he said he has it IN WRITING.
    its probaly something the do not want people to know,,,
    but this guy swears its for real,and like i said even got it in writing from customs,


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    #72
    Hal1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    Customs won't care where you got it when they dip your tank. If it ain't regular grade they will most likely seize the car.:rolleyes:


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    #73
    argosy2006
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    Hal1 wrote: »
    Customs won't care where you got it when they dip your tank. If it ain't regular grade they will most likely seize the car.:rolleyes:

    yea>? then why not seize every car that buys white diesel up north,,
    if u go buy white they lose revenue
    if its red,all the same they lose revenue,, makes no difference,,,and they olny care about green diesel been in ur tank,,not red,
    this is what i,m told from guy i know,i will try get what he has in writing and show you


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    #74
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    argosy2006 wrote: »
    A guy i know, has it in writing from customs that you can run your diesel car on RED DIESEL that you can buy in the north,and run ur car down here in the south on it and there is nothing customs can do about it coz its uk customs problem,,as long as you can drive you car out of north with out getting caught by uk cusotms your ok... red diesel is uk's green diesel,,, its about 0.60 euro cent a litre,and customs will not care if u have it in your car down here! or so i,m told,\
    argosy2006 wrote: »
    yes i thought that too,, this guy i know makes biodiesel, and has dealings with customs all the time, and he said he has it IN WRITING.
    its probaly something the do not want people to know,,,
    but this guy swears its for real,and like i said even got it in writing from customs,
    argosy2006 wrote: »
    yea>? then why not seize every car that buys white diesel up north,,
    if u go buy white they lose revenue
    if its red,all the same they lose revenue,, makes no difference,,,and they olny care about green diesel been in ur tank,,not red,
    this is what i,m told from guy i know,i will try get what he has in writing and show you
    Why would somebody from customs type and sign something on Revenue headed paper saying this?


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    #75
    Lord Trollington
    Registered Users Posts: 4,411 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    fryup wrote: »
    another excuse for service station owners to screw us over

    I dont work in a service station or never have, but i do know that Margin on fuel is very small comapred to the level of work that goes in to providing it.
    As little as 2c per litre.
    The government and the Arabs take the majority of the loot, your beef should be with them!


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    #76
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    kbannon wrote: »
    Why would somebody from customs type and sign something on Revenue headed paper saying this?

    Whether the actual claims are true or not, they will put stuff in writing. I had to get stuff sent up from Rosslare as the local VRO didn't understand the legislation.


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    #77
    Theta
    Registered Users Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭Theta


    whycliff wrote: »
    I dont work in a service station or never have, but i do know that Margin on fuel is very small comapred to the level of work that goes in to providing it.
    As little as 2c per litre.
    The government and the Arabs take the majority of the loot, your beef should be with them!


    I have heard this also. In fact I have heard some petrol stations never make money on petrol the normally sell it to break even and make all of there money on stuff sold from the shops.


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    #78
    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    fryup wrote: »
    well did you all fill up tonight??

    was there queues at the stations??

    Yes, and Yes.

    by Voodoomelon
    I saved €3.52 by filling up tonight compared to filling up in the morning. This represents an approximate increase of €91 for me annually, I can live with that. I'm happy enough that they left the motor tax alone.

    Well, a half tank cost me Eur 45 last night, so your €91 is just over one tank to me, and that makes it well worth queuing for, imho.

    We're just being screwed, full-stop.

    Can someone enlighten me on this ?: When oil was US$ 140/gallon, we were paying €1.35/litre.
    Now oil is $77 a gallon, and we're.........knocking on the door of €1.25/litre....

    Now, I know all about the excise, etc, but, oil is bought and sold in $, and the dollar is in the toilet vs the €, so why hasn't the product base price collapsed, here, when you add those two factors together ? :mad:

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    #79
    Bandara
    Registered Users Posts: 3,282 ✭✭✭Bandara


    Theta wrote: »
    I have heard this also. In fact I have heard some petrol stations never make money on petrol the normally sell it to break even and make all of there money on stuff sold from the shops.

    People will never understand this concept as they deeply enjoy banging on about being ripped off by the big nasty petrol station owners etc etc blah blah.

    I am always amazed that people come in a petrol station and moan about paying €1.20 (or whatever) for a litre of Unleaded. This unleaded is (deep breath) located in some desert by oil exploratory companies at huge costs, a refinery/extraction factory is built at the site at huge cost, the product is pumped out of the ground loaded onto transporters and shipped to a port, where it is loaded onto a massive specialised ship and sails accross the world to Ireland, wherre it is offloaded into a refinery who seperates the crude product, manufacturers the Unleaded, loads it back onto tankers who deliver it to petrol stations who spend hundreds of thousands on high tech equipment and safety to vend the product to the end user at a margin or 2 or 3 cents per liter.

    The same person who moans in the service station then goes to the fridge and buys a litre bottle of Ballygowan water that costs the retailer about 40 cents and happily pays €1.89 at the till for it. All the while griping about fuel.

    Litre of Fuel = 3 cent markup

    Litre of Water = infinite markup.

    I don't get it.

    :confused:


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    #80
    Bandara
    Registered Users Posts: 3,282 ✭✭✭Bandara


    argosy2006 wrote: »
    A guy i know, has it in writing from customs that you can run your diesel car on RED DIESEL that you can buy in the north,and run ur car down here in the south on it and there is nothing customs can do about it coz its uk customs problem,,as long as you can drive you car out of north with out getting caught by uk cusotms your ok... red diesel is uk's green diesel,,, its about 0.60 euro cent a litre,and customs will not care if u have it in your car down here! or so i,m told,\

    complete tripe, I'll donate €100 to a charity of your choice and will scan and print a picture of the completed cheque on here if you can produce that letter.


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    #81
    ninty9er
    Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    racso1975 wrote: »
    Yeah and if you fill your tank twice a week like i do thats gonna cost ya 520 euro a year extra!!!!

    I think that deserves a bit more then a meh
    Voodoomelon wrote: »
    I saved €3.52 by filling up tonight compared to filling up in the morning. This represents an approximate increase of €91 for me annually, I can live with that. I'm happy enough that they left the motor tax alone.

    No. You will save €5 or €3.52 only once, unless there's some mythical garage that is going to reduce its price between 2355 and 0000 every day.

    So for a one off saving of a fiver you're as well of stiing at home and waiting until you actually NEED to pass a petorl station.

    Anywho. My 15,000 miles will be unaffected in the main with E85 apart from the marginal increase on the 15% petrol portion. Still well under €1/l.

    Enjoy all of you environmental terrorists:D


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    #82
    Tragedy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    I think he meant that it would have only cost him €3.52 extra today, so extrapolating that out for the whole year only results in an increase of €91.


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