Mayor of Limerick wants deportation of EU-nationals

JP Liz

THE Mayor of Limerick, Cllr Kevin Kiely, has called for the deportation of EU-nationals who have failed to secure employment since their arrival here.
"I'm calling for anybody who is living in the State and who can't afford to pay for themselves to be deported after three months. We are borrowing €400 million per week to maintain our own residents and we can't afford it," the outspoken politician said this Wednesday.

"During the good times it was grand but we can't afford the current situation unless the EU is willing to step in and pay for non-nationals," he said

The president of the Irish-Polish Cultural and Business Association, Pat O'Sullivan, has called on the Mayor to withdraw his comments. "I am shocked, I am taken aback by those comments and it is shocking and dangerous talk," he said.

"EU nationals have a legal right to be here and calling for them to be deported shows an extraordinary lack of understanding of our place in Europe and how the world views us as a people," he added.

Mayor Kiely has denied his comments amount to racism.

"I'm not racist but it is very simple, we can't continue to borrow €400 million a week and the Government has to pull a halt and say enough is enough unless the EU intervenes and pays some sort of a subvention," he insisted.

I guess this recession is making everyone think charity begins at home and Ireland has been very generous

goingpostal

The government is paying way, way more to corrupt, dead banks like Anglo Irish Bank and Irish Nationwide, than it is to EU nationals on the dole, yet no-one mentions that. You can't kick people who have a legal right to be here out, just because the economy has collapsed. They were more than welcome here when we needed plentiful cheap labour. Corporate welfare should be stopped! Kiely is a muppet.

RonMexico

Kevin Kiely makes ill-informed offensive remark.



And people are surprised?


I hope he is forced to resign.

Berty

When I heard this I immediately thought of somebody who was brought in by Kevin Kiely into the housing department last week and told the girl in the office

"this girl needs to be bumped onto the housing list for a bigger house"(that's right, not just a house a BIGGER EFFIN' house)

Of course this girl was Irish, a single mother(claiming to be) and in receipt of numerous benefits.

BTW Mod, this is fact(don't you just love that claim)

If he would stop and think about giving people houses and benefits they are not entitled to then there would be some extra money to spend rather than blaming the EU nationals for sponging the welfare system.

I wonder what would happen if you counted the per capita amount of Irish unemployed to the per capita amount of EU nationals unemployed.

Facepalm moment for Kevin Kiely. Imagine though what John Gilligan would have said If he was asked the same question.

Kess73

Berty wrote: »

When I heard this I immediately thought of somebody who was brought in by Kevin Kiely into the housing department last week and told the girl in the office

"this girl needs to be bumped onto the housing list for a bigger house"(that's right, not just a house a BIGGER EFFIN' house)

Of course this girl was Irish, a single mother(claiming to be) and in receipt of numerous benefits.

BTW Mod, this is fact(don't you just love that claim)

If he would stop and think about giving people houses and benefits they are not entitled to then there would be some extra money to spend rather than blaming the EU nationals for sponging the welfare system.

I wonder what would happen if you counted the per capita amount of Irish unemployed to the per capita amount of EU nationals unemployed.

Facepalm moment for Kevin Kiely. Imagine though what John Gilligan would have said If he was asked the same question.

Don't worry, Jim Long is in line to become mayor in the next couple of years, cannot remember which year is the one that is his spell, but if you want a foot in mouth type as the mayor of Limerick, then the likes of Gilligan will have to work damn hard to match Long, who already has outbursts against people from other countries who have jobs here and that pay taxes here.

If memory serves right, there was a thread in this very forum earlier this year about that very subject with links to the newspaper interview.

thebiglad

Yep and all the irish born who are currently resident in other EU countries and are claiming welfare for over 3 months should be dispatched back to us.

What a stupid idea.

Kev_ps3

Fair play to him, great idea..

Stan the man

I read about this on the Polish forum as well.
It's very sad what he said. Even 3.4 years ago sought a meeting with the Poles and the Polish community.

no comment

krudler

He also doesnt seem to realise that Irish people are EU nationals, so is everyone without a job in Ireland being deported? I'll quit mine if i get sent to somewhere sunny

TEMPLAR KNIGHT

Fair play to him i think this is a great idea!!!

fl4pj4ck

to the mayor and all other ignorants who approves what he said, can you please name any benefit a foreign national is entitled to coming from abroad?

I would advise the man to at least try calling Citizens Information if he has problems understanding how the benefit system in this country works.

and before anyone ask - I am from Poland, been here for last 5,5 years, paid the rent, taxes, spent the money in shops, cinemas, on petrol, etc.

Please entertain me and name just one benefit.

_michelle_

fl4pj4ck wrote: »

to the mayor and all other ignorants who approves what he said, can you please name any benefit a foreign national is entitled to coming from abroad?

I would advise the man to at least try calling Citizens Information if he has problems understanding how the benefit system in this country works.

and before anyone ask - I am from Poland, been here for last 5,5 years, paid the rent, taxes, spent the money in shops, cinemas, on petrol, etc.

Please entertain me and name just one benefit.

i can name a few,
lone parents, jsa/jsb & disability are 3 of them.
it is madness to think we should support non-nationals BEFORE OUR OWN!!!!!
i fully agree with the mayor & believe we need more like him & maybe our country wouldnt be in such a mess!

TEMPLAR KNIGHT

fl4pj4ck wrote: »

to the mayor and all other ignorants who approves what he said, can you please name any benefit a foreign national is entitled to coming from abroad?

I would advise the man to at least try calling Citizens Information if he has problems understanding how the benefit system in this country works.

and before anyone ask - I am from Poland, been here for last 5,5 years, paid the rent, taxes, spent the money in shops, cinemas, on petrol, etc.

Please entertain me and name just one benefit.

social welfare payments, child benefit etc??? just to name a couple

aftermn

Hey

Anyone who actually worked and paid taxes here should have the same benefits as the rest of us.

Stop trying to hit people at the bottom. It is the top end gits who need trimming. Few of these are migrant workers, they are our very own, although you wouldn't think it.

On the other hand, migrants who have never contributed (through tax, prsi etc.) should not be facilitated. This only facilitates the rich, by undermining the workers.

Workers should use their income wisely. Spend in worker friendly shops only. Go north if you can. Remember the rich are using every tactic to do down the worker. We must be every bit as uncompromising. They need our spending, withdraw it until we get a better deal.

fl4pj4ck

Social insurance (PRSI) contributions

In order to qualify for Jobseeker's Benefit, you must pay Class A, H or P PRSI contributions. Class A is the one paid by most private sector employees. Class H is paid by soldiers, reservists and temporary army nurses, who do not qualify for Jobseeker's Benefit until they have left the army.

* At least 104 weeks PRSI paid since you first started work

And

* Have 39 weeks PRSI paid or credited in the relevant tax year (a minimum of 13 weeks must be paid contributions*)

Or

* Have 26 weeks PRSI paid in the relevant tax year and 26 weeks PRSI paid in the tax year immediately before the relevant tax year.

can you enlighten me, how someone coming from abroad can be granted JB if 104 contributions (that means need to be working at least 104 weeks, which is two years) is needed to get it?

I am not going to explain you your own social welfare system, but ffs at least read the rules before you start making completely false accusations. for more information please refer to http://www.citizensinformation.ie

_michelle_

fl4pj4ck wrote: »

can you enlighten me, how someone coming from abroad can be granted JB if 104 contributions (that means need to be working at least 104 weeks, which is two years) is needed to get it?

I am not going to explain you your own social welfare system, but ffs at least read the rules before you start making completely false accusations. for more information please refer to http://www.citizensinformation.ie

there are loopholes in our welfare law that enable non-nationals (only eu nationals) to claim welfare here if they have worked in another eu country (apart from their home country) for a certain period of time directly preceding their claim here. this is maddness that each week we a getting ourselves further into debt each week to provide for non-nationals.

fl4pj4ck

_michelle_ wrote: »

there are loopholes in our welfare law that enable non-nationals (only eu nationals) to claim welfare here if they have worked in another eu country (apart from their home country) for a certain period of time directly preceding their claim here. this is maddness that each week we a getting ourselves further into debt each week to provide for non-nationals.

if you work in any EU country you can move your benefit to other EU state for up to three months. it's still the country where you've been working who pays up

I will ask again, can you please name at least one benefit people coming from abroad can claim straight after crossing the border?

_michelle_

fl4pj4ck wrote: »

if you work in any EU country you can move your benefit to other EU state for up to three months. it's still the country where you've been working who pays up

I will ask again, can you please name at least one benefit people coming from abroad can claim straight after crossing the border?

yes you are correct in that however there are other loopholes that enable non-nationals to claim jsa/jsb directly after coming into the country!

fl4pj4ck

would you be able to share some of those 'loopholes'? or back you accusations with anything apart from your own words? because it seems to me you have a lot to say, but not much of it makes any sense

if you are aware about such 'loopholes' how you call it, have you contacted your TD in relation to them?

_michelle_

fl4pj4ck wrote: »

would you be able to share some of those 'loopholes'? or back you accusations with anything apart from your own words? because it seems to me you have a lot to say, but not much of it makes any sense

if you are aware about such 'loopholes' how you call it, have you contacted your TD in relation to them?

fl4pj4ck, you really need to look up tis information yourself its all readily available on the internet. yes i have contacted my local td's & to say they wern't interested is an understatment, they are just to chicken sh1t incase they are called racist for exposing such loopholes, & by your grammer im presuming your not irish?

fl4pj4ck

_michelle_ wrote: »

i can name a few,
lone parents, jsa/jsb & disability are 3 of them.
it is madness to think we should support non-nationals BEFORE OUR OWN!!!!!
i fully agree with the mayor & believe we need more like him & maybe our country wouldnt be in such a mess!

_michelle_ wrote: »

there are loopholes in our welfare law that enable non-nationals (only eu nationals) to claim welfare here if they have worked in another eu country (apart from their home country) for a certain period of time directly preceding their claim here. this is maddness that each week we a getting ourselves further into debt each week to provide for non-nationals.

I need to look them myself? Why? None of what you said so far is true (which I pointed out earlier), why would I or anyone else believe it?
If you are making an accusation please back it up. Do your homework and come back.

As for my nationality I mentioned it earlier myself. Probably mr mayor have the same problem with understanding written word as you do.

aftermn

Hey

if you have worked and paid your dues here, welcome.

Don't listen to the downers.

But for everyone, money is short and we have to be careful to use it fairly. Government money is also scarce and has to be used carefully. Please, my Irish brothers, accept that our immigrants who contribute are just that, contributors. They are deserving of our support as they have supported us throughout their working time here. We have rules, stick by them. Give where it is due, but also our immigrants must accept that we refuse those outside the rules.

crocro

Who in the name of Jesus Christ would emigrate to Limerick?

evercloserunion

Maybe the EU should start demanding we repay all the money it has given us over the years then. It is a recession, after all.

Paulegend

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Fair play to him, great idea..

i thgink racist people should be shot.

with scumbags like this alive the irish would not have survived the famine.

idiots with carity begins at home. 100 years ago we wouyld have been on the tv adverts for concern. morons havent a clue about society or the common good.

SCUM

Mr E

Thread cleaned up. Keep it on topic, folks.

goingpostal

204.30EUR a week to EU citizens who have worked and contributed to Irish society (unlike a lot of Irish-born citizens who still claim welfare), or 30bn euro to a corrupt and dead institution like Anglo Irish Bank. And what do people get worked up about? Nice to see government propaganda is working well.......

Kev_ps3

Paulegend wrote: »

i thgink racist people should be shot.

with scumbags like this alive the irish would not have survived the famine.

idiots with carity begins at home. 100 years ago we wouyld have been on the tv adverts for concern. morons havent a clue about society or the common good.

SCUM

Well I think weak PC liberal traitors should be shot..

btw im not a racist.

Duckjob

This gem comes from the same great brain that, earlier in the year called on the government to fork out on a new programme to build a shítload more houses in Limerick to "keep the local economy going".

I want some of what he's smoking.

gaf1983

He's on 95fm now.

Roadend

goingpostal wrote: »

204.30EUR a week to EU citizens who have worked and contributed to Irish society (unlike a lot of Irish-born citizens who still claim welfare), or 30bn euro to a corrupt and dead institution like Anglo Irish Bank. And what do people get worked up about? Nice to see government propaganda is working well.......

The Anglo Irish Bank has nothing to do with social welfare expenditure. Bloody Fintan o'Toole

yupyup7up

Hi Lads,

I am in agreement with the mayor but maybe not to his strict terms. People who aren't irish nationals and don't have a settled family should be encouraged to go home instead of being on the dole etc. Maybe after 6 months? The government want to cut Irish workers pay etc. and also need to reduce the expenditure due to the live register so why not start by cutting out people who arent even irish citizens? Obviously people who work here, are naturalised citizens or have an established family here are perfectly entitled to live here as they wish, but people who are milking the country for benefits should be asked to leave!

If one of us went to the states or Australia, do you think they would allow us to live off of their social welfare? Just to point out, I am very good friends with many foreign people here and they all work for a living, but there are some who dont want to do anything and scrounge off the dole(Ive witnessed this myself)

neil_purdy

Not the worst thing.. When i was going to Canada i had to sign a form stating i would not be a burden to the country, if i failed to secure employment i couldnt claim help and would be removed...

Canada is not as far up sh*t creek as we are!!!

yupyup7up

A lot of people are afraid to comment on issues such as this for fear of being called a racist. His remarks aren't in the slightest racist. At least someone is thinking using their heads instead of their arses.

I'm sure that if France or the UK were in as much trouble as us then they would think of something similiar

Rujib1

The mayor of Limerick would be better served deporting a certain section of the natives of that city, than the foreigners most of whom actually obey the law, work and pay a few bob in taxes.

R1

yupyup7up

if only we could deport some of our own....:rolleyes:

fl4pj4ck

yupyup7up wrote: »

Hi Lads,

I am in agreement with the mayor but maybe not to his strict terms. People who aren't irish nationals and don't have a settled family should be encouraged to go home instead of being on the dole etc. Maybe after 6 months? The government want to cut Irish workers pay etc. and also need to reduce the expenditure due to the live register so why not start by cutting out people who arent even irish citizens? Obviously people who work here, are naturalised citizens or have an established family here are perfectly entitled to live here as they wish, but people who are milking the country for benefits should be asked to leave!

If one of us went to the states or Australia, do you think they would allow us to live off of their social welfare? Just to point out, I am very good friends with many foreign people here and they all work for a living, but there are some who dont want to do anything and scrounge off the dole(Ive witnessed this myself)

You don't have a clue what are you talking about.

To all people that supports mayor's idea, I will ask once again. Name one benefit that people coming from abroad are entitled to straight after crossing the border.

He's lack of understanding how Irish Social Welfare system works is a disgrace.

neil_purdy

Rujib1 wrote: »

the foreigners most of whom actually obey the law, work and pay a few bob in taxes.

Its not the working ones he is concerned about.. Its the non working, dole receiving few...

yupyup7up

fl4pj4ck wrote: »

You don't have a clue what are you talking about.

To all people that supports mayor's idea, I will ask once again. Name one benefit that people coming from abroad are entitled to straight after crossing the border.

He's lack of understanding how Irish Social Welfare system works is a disgrace.

Who said anything about them getting benefit directly after coming here? The minute dell packed up a lot of foreigners found themselves either going to Poland or on the dole, not even trying to get a new job so excuse me now, don't you dare question my knowledge of my own country

fl4pj4ck

yupyup7up wrote: »

Who said anything about them getting benefit directly after coming here? The minute dell packed up a lot of foreigners found themselves either going to Poland or on the dole, not even trying to get a new job so excuse me now, don't you dare question my knowledge of my own country

In other words, what you say is: "Let's keep them here as long as they keep pumping our pockets, and when we don't need them anymore, force them go home.". Is that what you say?

The only foreign people that are entitled to get any benefits here are people who earned it working here for at least two years. And no matter what you or other ignorants like the mayor says, you cannot take this away.

topper75

I don't recall any thread from 2005/2006 expressing anger that we were collecting PRSI from foreign people!!!:D I don't rem any statement from Kiely then?

It's simple: If people from new member states have paid into social insurance when working, they are entitled to a payout when not working.

Limerick city's future is dependent on foreign influx - both capital and labour. Xenophobia is the road back to the 1950s.

Kess73

aftermn wrote: »

Hey

if you have worked and paid your dues here, welcome.

Don't listen to the downers.

But for everyone, money is short and we have to be careful to use it fairly. Government money is also scarce and has to be used carefully. Please, my Irish brothers, accept that our immigrants who contribute are just that, contributors. They are deserving of our support as they have supported us throughout their working time here. We have rules, stick by them. Give where it is due, but also our immigrants must accept that we refuse those outside the rules.

Would agree with this poster.

If a person has or is working here, and is paying taxes, both off of their wages, and through buying food, petrol etc here, then in my eyes they have as much right to social welfare if they lose their job as an Irish person with the same amount of tax paid.

I do think that anyone who comes to this country and that does not work at all, should not be given any sort of welfare though, and that Ireland/ the EU should have a similar policy to Australia in terms of how people are checked in order to be let come live/work here.


There is a poster who said that when Dell let people go that all the "foreigners" either went home or on the dole , and did not even try to get another job. Well that is a stupid comment because plenty of Irish workers who were let go by Dell went on the dole and have not gone looking for new jobs either.

The non nationals who worked in Dell have done their bit when they had jobs. By working they gave taxes back to the government. They paid rent in this country, and by buying food or whatever else, they helped keep local shops going too. So why should those people get any less when they find themselves out of work?


Maybe Mayor Kiely should look to have any companies that are not Irish taking from Limerick too. All his comments smack of are those of a poorly informed man, and he is quite typical of the insular thinking people that seem to become politicians in this country.

arch_stanton

Mr. Kiely is an ignorant fool with obviously little grasp of the social welfare system and EU rules. The most basic principles of the EU are the free movement of goods and people. Ireland can sell it's products freely to any other member state and Irish people can live and work where they wish. In turn we accept that other EU states can sell to us and their citizens are entitled to live and work in Ireland. If Mr. Kiely disagrees with this then he is advocating that we leave the EU. Imagine where that would leave us.

"Throw out the foreigners" politicians need to remember that this works both ways. There are probably more Irish working abroad than there are foreigners in Ireland. What about Irish born pensioners in London who have worked all their lives there and are now drawing a UK pension. Should they be kicked out?

I'm Irish and have been living in Spain for 10 years. There are 12 other Irish working in the same office as me. I've paid my taxes here like anyone else. If we lost our jobs tomorrow we would get the same unemployment benefit as the spanish. Is he suggesting that we should be shipped back to Dublin on the next available Iberia flight.

Maybe he should take a look at how they do it here. You get unemployment benefit for up to two years and after that you're on your own. Apply that to the useless scroungers all over Ireland who have never worked a day in their lives and you'll fill half the hole in the budget right there.

fl4pj4ck

Kess73 wrote: »

I do think that anyone who comes to this country and that does not work at all, should not be given any sort of welfare though, [...]

none of the people coming to the country are entitled to any welfare before they made enough contributions themselves. on the other hand, if you are borned in Ireland (and this is regardless of your parents' nationality) you are entitled to get many benefits, including JSA/JSB straight after finishing education.

this year the government slashed the dole for under 20s afair, I think next step should be to look into cases of those, who has never been working and sit down on a dole for years not trying to secure any employment. I bet there's more families living on claiming different allowances than those trying to find 'loopholes' in the beloved and ideal Irish social welfare system

people seem this coming for years, but politicians tend not to take any 'risky' actions until it's too late. if this has been looked into 2-3 years ago and the system fixed at that stage, maybe today the Irish economy wouln't be loosing 500mln euro every week

yupyup7up

fl4pj4ck wrote: »

In other words, what you say is: "Let's keep them here as long as they keep pumping our pockets, and when we don't need them anymore, force them go home.". Is that what you say?

The only foreign people that are entitled to get any benefits here are people who earned it working here for at least two years. And no matter what you or other ignorants like the mayor says, you cannot take this away.

yes I understand that people who have worked have contributed and therefore are entitled to benefit for a specified time. I'm talking about those who are in receipt of social welfare long after their contribution has been used to to provide them with the dole. Why should we provide years of social welfare to non nationals if they have only worked here for a year or less? and this sadly is the case.

How would like it if Roma people from Romania worked for a few months and then claimed social welfare from the polish government? I know for a fact you wouldntI][B]don't[/B][/I like that...

Would you like it if I went to Poland and worked for 6 months and claimed social welfare for another 6 months after that? doesnt make sense to support something like that.


Ive been working since I was 15 and only stopped for either classes in school or lectures in college(worked part time through education) and also I started a job a day after I finished my last exam in college, and I am 100% not satisfied that my PAYE also goes towards paying lazy foreigners (and no im not forgetting lazy irish people). And there are also plenty of African people who get ridiculous benefits from our government! taxi vouchers houses, the whole lot! get a grip and find out whats going on in our country before you slate our people

Mr E

Healthy debate is great, racist comments are not.
Thread cleaned up for the second time this morning.
I'm not doing it again - last warning.

fl4pj4ck

yupyup7up wrote: »

Would you like it if I went to Poland and worked for 6 months and claimed social welfare for another 6 months after that? doesnt make sense to support something like that

It's the flawed system that is in use in here you all should blame. As for how it works in Poland, you are only allowed to get the JSB for a year after you become unemployed.

If you find another job, and pay enough contributions again you will be entitled to the JSB. If you fail to do so, you will see no money coming from the state, and be let alone on your own.

I have nothing against implementing same system in here. But can you name a politician that would sacrifice himself and their career to suggest that? Shortly we would see thousands of people on the streets protesting against it (vide last weeks protests of the public sector workers all around the country). Thousands of people that have never worked and don't have any intention to, and instead of that they prefer to live on the dole for their whole life.

daveyboy_1ie

aftermn wrote: »

Anyone who actually worked and paid taxes here should have the same benefits as the rest of us

My biggest problem with the whole system is that when an Irish person is signing on they are told nowt, except the bare minimum and after signing play the waiting game. However non nationals are taken aside, told what they can claim (including extras on top of basic) and also talking amongst themselves pretty much can be VERY comfortable. No other state does this and its time the sytem is cleaned up. Any attemts to clean it up though are met by the human rights brigade will be up in arms calling it racist, even though the same rules apply to all nationals. The world has gone PC mad.

Its expected that politicians get their two cents in, especially when they know they are appealing to the masses by saying things like this. Thats the way the politics game works, all publicity is good publicity.

yupyup7up

fl4pj4ck wrote: »

It's the flawed system that is in use in here you all should blame. As for how it works in Poland, you are only allowed to get the JSB for a year after you become unemployed.

If you find another job, and pay enough contributions again you will be entitled to the JSB. If you fail to do so, you will see no money coming from the state, and be let alone on your own.

I have nothing against implementing same system in here. But can you name a politician that would sacrifice himself and their career to suggest that? Shortly we would see thousands of people on the streets protesting against it (vide last weeks protests of the public sector workers all around the country). Thousands of people that have never worked and don't have any intention to, and instead of that they prefer to live on the dole for their whole life.

Well Id say Mr Kevin Kiely there has the balls to say it. TBH im sick of these f*cking morons protesting about every little effort made to get the country back on track. 90% of the people arguing against suggestions like these aren't bloody financiers so how would they know what they are talking about? Ireland is f*cked as a country at the moment anyway. Maybe we should bring in a similiar system for EVERYONE so, and force some of those lazy irish people as well as lazy foreigners to either get a job or get out of the country!

Stab*City

Its a shame that things have come to this.. Why pick on the non nationals when our own Irish people are claiming the same benefits in other countries.. Christ the Irish were claiming 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 doles for the same person back in the day in the UK long before a non national ever came to this city!

Alot of the people we are talking about actually now have irish children and partners.. so do we just kick them out now that there are no jobs to generate tax revenue to line the mayors pocket? Lets hope other countries dont take his advice as we could have a population of around 20 million if the US, UK, Germany, France, Australia, Spain and any other countries where we have laid our hats decided to kick us out!!! This would be a disaster as there are only 5 job vacancies outside Dublin!! Imagine the Social Welfare expenditure then!!

Between this and his comments regarding unemployed people as a second class i think the mayor should keep his mouth on lockdown for a bit and if he really wants to be in the paper that much hell get out his ladder and go set the right time at tates clock!! (Im sure he would make front page:D)

fl4pj4ck

daveyboy_1ie wrote: »

My biggest problem with the whole system is that when an Irish person is signing on they are told nowt, except the bare minimum and after signing play the waiting game. However non nationals are taken aside, told what they can claim (including extras on top of basic) and also talking amongst themselves pretty much can be VERY comfortable. No other state does this and its time the sytem is cleaned up. Any attemts to clean it up though are met by the human rights brigade will be up in arms calling it racist, even though the same rules apply to all nationals. The world has gone PC mad..

so you want to cut the benefits for everyone apart from Irish, is that right?
this is exactly the definition of the racism.

if you don't know too much of the social welfare system in Ireland, go to the nearest Citizens Information bureau, do you thing we have been born with all that knowledge? No, we have learned it the hard way. And you blame us for taking from the state money and other entitlements we are allowed to?