One step at a time

aero2k

I think it was Krusty that suggested using current lap pace rather than current pace - I tried this and found it useful. Current pace just changes too quickly to be able to relax and set a smooth pace. You could try setting the lap distance to something shorter than a mile if you want more instantaneous speed info.
I usually display 4 fields (good old fashioned 305) - time, ave pace, current lap pace and distance, but when I'm racing I only look at time, ave pace and current lap pace. This allows me to have time in a big font so I can see it easily. I don't think you need to see distance when racing.
I presume the 405 alows you to set up different screens so you can scrolll through lots of data fields? (Come on Krusty, help me out!)
Best of luck in the new job and on Monday. I'll be down to cheer you and others on.

theboyblunder

aero2k wrote: »

I think it was Krusty that suggested using current lap pace rather than current pace - I tried this and found it useful. Current pace just changes too quickly to be able to relax and set a smooth pace. You could try setting the lap distance to something shorter than a mile if you want more instantaneous speed info.
I usually display 4 fields (good old fashioned 305) - time, ave pace, current lap pace and distance, but when I'm racing I only look at time, ave pace and current lap pace. This allows me to have time in a big font so I can see it easily. I don't think you need to see distance when racing.
I presume the 405 alows you to set up different screens so you can scrolll through lots of data fields? (Come on Krusty, help me out!)
Best of luck in the new job and on Monday. I'll be down to cheer you and others on.

+1

current pace just makes me confused - changes too fast. I use 3 fields - distance, current lap pace and HR (you could swap av pace here). What is also really useful is the virtual partner. If you set it for a 'safe PMP' which allows for 26.5 miles in 3 h (say 6'47/mile) a tap on the bezel will tell you roughly what cushion you have at any time. Another tip is not to trust the current lap pace for the first 10% of each mile, it jumps a bit and then settles. Good luck with it and the last week of taper.

ManFromAtlantis

i find the 'last lap' time handy. beeps every whatever 1km or mile or whatever you set it to , with time displayed big font for a few secs.

good luck on Mon? is it. you've a lot of work in the bank............time to cash in.
good luck , hope you get it.

Gringo78

I autolap every mile. I have one screen set to show Avg lap Pace, Lap Distance & Lap time - suits my training for when say I do intervals, hit the lap button at the end of the rep and the lap timer resets to zero so I can easily check the recovery time. I have a second screen set to HR, Avg Lap HR & Avg Lap Pace. I use this screen when running PMP runs to HR, or LSR's. I don't actually have current pace on any screen as its just too instantaneous to be of use.

I think for the marathon I will change these around and have just one screen with HR, Avg Lap HR, Avg Lap Pace & Avg Pace.

If I start running uphill I hit the lap button and watch the HR, keep the average & instantaneous down. After I have run down a hill and hit back onto the flat, I hit the lap button again so that I can pace properly on the flat without the downhill running skewing the average lap pace.

Krusty_Clown

For races, I like to keep it as simple as possible (less stuff to worry about):
Field 1 (biggest one): Time
Field 2: Distance
Field 3:Average pace
But I also use a pace band (in conjunction with Field 1) as we know distance and average pace can be a little bit askew.

Gringo78

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Field 1 (biggest one): Time

Am I right in saying that if you include time in a 4 field setup, it only shows hours:min and can't fit in seconds? Does this on my 305 which is annoying. What about the 405?

Sosa, apologies for turning your training log into a Garmin manual but sure you're in taper, nothing much else to post here anyway!:D

Sosa

Gringo78 wrote: »

Am I right in saying that if you include time in a 4 field setup, it only shows hours:min and can't fit in seconds? Does this on my 305 which is annoying. What about the 405?

Sosa, apologies for turning your training log into a Garmin manual but sure you're in taper, nothing much else to post here anyway!:D

Exactly gringo

I always had the garmin 50 on current pace,i liked knowing what pace i was going so that if i was going to fast/slow i could adjust accordingly.

As someone said above the first 0.1m on current lap pace is all over the place so i think i will leave it on current for now.

Krusty_Clown

Gringo78 wrote: »

Am I right in saying that if you include time in a 4 field setup, it only shows hours:min and can't fit in seconds? Does this on my 305 which is annoying. What about the 405?

Sosa, apologies for turning your training log into a Garmin manual but sure you're in taper, nothing much else to post here anyway!:D

4 Field setup?! Sure that's only for them big clunky watches.
But yes, on the 405 if you want seconds, then you have to have it on the larger of the three fields. That's why I use average pace for one of the smaller fields. It'll give you minutes and seconds (you really don't need milliseconds!).

Krusty_Clown

Sosa wrote: »

Is that fixed now for all my runs or will i have to fiddle round with it myself ?

I didn't fix nufink. If you want to make it 'look' bigger, click on the Zoom (plus) icon a few times. But you're talking about a 55m climb. Sure my stairs would take me higher than that.

Sosa

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

I didn't fix nufink. If you want to make it 'look' bigger, click on the Zoom (plus) icon a few times. But you're talking about a 55m climb. Sure my stairs would take me higher than that.

I saw that when i went back in there alright.
As for the 55m climb...sure its taper time !

tunguska

Good run in Portlaw Sosa. Just one week now, hopefully things wont heat up too much weather wise, between now and next monday. Really dont want a repeat of last years carnage.
How are you fixed anyway?

Sosa

tunguska wrote: »

How are you fixed anyway?

I am ready to go.
Managed to do everything that was in my program to the letter.
About 6 weeks ago i was thinking of going for sub 2:55 but i have changed my mind.
I would much rather just get under 3 hours without nearly killing myself than risking setting out at 2:55p and completely blowing up like Dublin.
So dont anyone expect me to be finishing around 2:55 because i will not be going for it.
Its only my second marathon and i have 14:17 to knock off to get under 3hrs...thats enough stress for one day...

As i look out the back garden now its pi$$ing down...dont want that on the day but the forecast is to improve up to the w/e...lets just hope its favourable come monday.

tunguska

Sosa wrote: »

So dont anyone expect me to be finishing around 2:55 because i will not be going for it.
Its only my second marathon and i have 14:17 to knock off to get under 3hrs...thats enough stress for one day...

In that case maybe you should go for sub 2:55:)

(Hides behind sofa)

Sosa

Date|Miles|Ave pace|Type|Weather|Days to Cork
31-05-10|4|7:55|Recovery|Dull|7
01-06-10|5.5|6:49p Overall|Vo2|Warm but windy again !|6
02-06-10|||||5
03-06-10|||||4 :rolleyes:
04-06-10|||||3
05-06-10|||||2
06-06-10|||||1 :eek:



Last blow out today.
Mile one easy...then a 5:55 mile which was tough...then 0.5m easy....then a 5:37 mile that was easy ...followed by 2 more easy miles.
Going in for a rub at 1:30...get the calves worked on a bit and probably a rest day tomorrow.

Its amazing how the mind works,on the first fast mile today i was flogged and wondering how the hell am i going to get around 26.2m next monday...then i rattled out a 5:37 mile and could have went faster and everything was fine again.
I must remember that next week.

Every mile is different...just get to the next mile marker and deal with it then !


Long 16+|Med 12-16|Aerobic|Vo2|Recovery|Race|Total
12|5|29|5|15|4|70


Wk 1|Wk 2|Wk 3|Wk 4|Wk 5|Wk 6
61|58.23|58.47|58.7|60.2|62|

Wk 7|Wk 8|Wk 9|Wk 10|Wk 11|Wk 12
55.5|46.8|32.6|60.3|51.6|35.5|

aero2k

Sosa wrote: »

I must remember that next week.

Every mile is different...just get to the next mile marker and deal with it then !

Yep, no point in getting too far ahead of yourself, you have to deal with what's happening now.

Enjoy!

Sosa

Date|Miles|Ave pace|Type|Weather|Days to Cork
31-05-10|4|7:55|Recovery|Dull|7
01-06-10|5.5|6:49p Overall|Vo2|Warm but windy again !|6
02-06-10|Rest||||5
03-06-10|4.5|7:17|Aerobic|Warm|4 :rolleyes:
04-06-10|||||3
05-06-10|||||2
06-06-10|||||1 :eek:



Early start this morning before work...on the road at 6:50 for a glorious run,would have loved to have kept going.
Probable rest day again tomorrow,with another 4 on Sat and maybe 2 on Sunday.

Got a great rub on Tuesday,i was feeling very tight first thing in the morning above the achilles up to my calf on both legs,i explained it to the physio and je$us did he do a job on it for me....i was in serious pain and struggled to walk out of there...but no tightness this morning...so he did the job.

the wife was getting on the to me,telling everyone that i went for a "massage" ......she has no idea !


Long 16+|Med 12-16|Aerobic|Vo2|Recovery|Race|Total
12|5|30|5|15|4|71


Wk 1|Wk 2|Wk 3|Wk 4|Wk 5|Wk 6
61|58.23|58.47|58.7|60.2|62|

Wk 7|Wk 8|Wk 9|Wk 10|Wk 11|Wk 12
55.5|46.8|32.6|60.3|51.6|35.5|

Krusty_Clown

Just in case I don't get the chance over the weekend, very best of luck on Monday. I hope you're smiling after you cross the finish line. Come back with happy tales.

kennyb3

Best of luck for monday Sosa

theboyblunder

hahaha liked the last table there

The very best of luck Sosa - I hope you get the sub 3!

misty floyd

You have every reason to be bursting with confidence. Cracking training all along Sosa and I know you'll run a really strong race. Bye bye DCM.

tunguska

Best of luck Sosa. Looks like it wont be overly warm, so no repeat of last years conditions thankfully. Give it socks man.

aero2k

Go for it!

I'll give you a shout on Monday (no idea what you look like, so I'll just shout at everyone)

Dukie

Best of luck butty.

TakeaBowSon

Best of luck on Monday...your log has been a lesson in dedication and discipline.

Speedy44

You'll definitely do it on Monday Sosa, you have all the training done, you have great times in your lead up races, now its all just about putting it together on the day. No bother.

seanynova

best of luck on monday, very good log mate...your flying!

Sosa

Thanks Lads.......i am really looking forward to it now.

Sosa

Date|Miles|Ave pace|Type|Weather|Days to Cork
31-05-10|4|7:55|Recovery|Dull|7
01-06-10|5.5|6:49p Overall|Vo2|Warm but windy again !|6
02-06-10|Rest||||5
03-06-10|4.5|7:17|Aerobic|Warm|4 :rolleyes:
04-06-10|Rest||||3
05-06-10|4|7:37|Aerobic|Very Warm|2
06-06-10|||||1 :eek:


A nice 4m in very warm conditions,forecast better be right...it better cool down.
If the weather gods are listening i would like it to drizzle rain form 16m on....keep us nice and cool....under 15 degrees would be nice also....

Rearing to go now.

I might do another 2m tomorrow or i might not.

Long 16+|Med 12-16|Aerobic|Vo2|Recovery|Race|Total
12|5|31|5|15|4|72


Wk 1|Wk 2|Wk 3|Wk 4|Wk 5|Wk 6
61|58.23|58.47|58.7|60.2|62|

Wk 7|Wk 8|Wk 9|Wk 10|Wk 11|Wk 12
55.5|46.8|32.6|60.3|51.6|35.5|

asimonov

go sosa!

village runner

Best of luck monday. Have a plan and stick to it. If going with others stick to your own plan. There will be parts when you or others will be strong. Its your race and no one elses.