Should people who download (illegally) from the web be banned from the net

john-joe

Hi, just wondering does anyone think that anyone who illegally downloads music or movies be banned from the internet?

Just wanted to ask peoples opinion on this...

Thanks

My name is URL

No

orourkeda

All that porn. ARE YOU JOKING ME?

dlofnep

john-joe wrote: »

Hi, just wondering does anyone think that anyone who illegally downloads music or movies be banned from the internet?

Just wanted to ask peoples opinion on this...

Thanks

No, who would I download from then?

Agent Smith

john-joe wrote: »

Hi, just wondering does anyone think that anyone who illegally downloads music or movies be banned from the internet?

Just wanted to ask peoples opinion on this...

Thanks

no, and people who get research for college essays by asking questions on message boards should be shot.

Kinky Slinky

This is such a good topic...NOT!

Cupcake_Crisis

Absolutely not. Downloading is my life

john-joe

Well there is talk of banning users who continually illegally download will face prosecution and be banned from the net...

Not sure if its just scare tactics from big movers in the music/movie industry...

john-joe

Agent Smith wrote: »

no, and people who get research for college essays by asking questions on message boards should be shot.

Hope thats not directed at me Agent Smith? :rolleyes:

TPD

Impractical. Among the people who download illegally would be some of the quickest people to figure out a way around any such 'ban', so it'd be useless.

thomond2006

The internet would be empty and our prison system is overcrowded as it is. :pac:

Limewire FTW!

Outkast_IRE

Its pretty sensless really most telecoms companys realise that their best customers are probably these downloaders, who pay extra for good speeds etc ....... and there is always a way around it

TheZohanS

john-joe wrote: »

Hi, just wondering does anyone think that anyone who illegally downloads music or movies be banned from the internet?

Just wanted to ask peoples opinion on this...

Thanks

What is your own opinion on this john-joe? (when you start a thread it's advised that you give your own opinion on the topic)

Naikon

No, they should understand the risks of copyright infringement though.
How can you 'ban' someone from the internet?

Woot! 2000 posts \o/
Mr Cloud, wheres my cookie?

LEIN

What would i do with my evenings.

john-joe

TheZohan wrote: »

What is your own opinion on this john-joe? (when you start a thread it's advised that you give your own opinion on the topic)

I personally believe that it is unacceptable to download illegally from the Net. I see it as stealing (all be it from multi millonaires) and therefore anyone who engages in it is breaking the law.

Although I agree it is extremely difficult to prosecute or 'ban' users from the net!

Wazdakka

I think Yooouu should be banned from the internetz

*Points at You*

john-joe

Wazdakka wrote: »

I think Yooouu should be banned from the internetz

*Points at You*

Why?

john-joe

john-joe wrote: »

I personally believe that it is unacceptable to download illegally from the Net. I see it as stealing (all be it from multi millonaires) and therefore anyone who engages in it is breaking the law.

Well if that's the case then anyone who's ever caught stealing should never be allowed into a shop. Won't happen. Can't happen.

Mr. CooL ICE

john-joe wrote: »

Why?

Cos you touch yourself at night

mahamageehad

And anyone who ever taped a song from the radio should be banned from ever owning a radio again and thrown in jail too for copyright infringement. :rolleyes:

john-joe

LordChessington wrote: »

Cos you touch yourself at night

Whats wrong with that?

As long as dont touch you im grand:rolleyes:

o1s1n

The day that happens is the day Elton John presses the giant off switch.

john-joe

mahamageehad wrote: »

And anyone who ever taped a song from the radio should be banned from ever owning a radio again and thrown in jail too for copyright infringement. :rolleyes:

If it's breaking the law....

mikom

john-joe wrote: »

Should people who download (illegally) from the web be banned from the net

We talking spiders or fishermen here or some sort of fishermans spiderbaby type thing?

My name is URL

john-joe wrote: »

I personally believe that it is unacceptable to download illegally from the Net. I see it as stealing (all be it from multi millonaires) and therefore anyone who engages in it is breaking the law.

Although I agree it is extremely difficult to prosecute or 'ban' users from the net!

What exactly am I stealing if I download an episode of QI?

o1s1n

john-joe wrote: »

If it's breaking the law....

HOME TAPING IS KILLING MUSIC.

AND ITS ILLEGAL!

20 years later, music is still here, alive and kicking.

TheZohanS

john-joe wrote: »

If it's breaking the law....

Do you work for Ericom/music industry by any chance?

john-joe

TheZohan wrote: »

Do you work for Ericom/music industry by any chance?

No I don't,

john-joe

mikom wrote: »

We talking spiders or fishermen here or some sort of fishermans spiderbaby type thing?

spider web of course

GLaDOS

thomond2006 wrote: »

Limewire FTW!

Limewire is like a Thai hooker, it does the job but there's a good chance you'll catch something and you may not get what you think you are.

john-joe

o1s1n wrote: »

HOME TAPING IS KILLING MUSIC.

AND ITS ILLEGAL!

20 years later, music is still here, alive and kicking.

Alive & kicking and being robbed by people illegally downloading music. Or unless you think that it is acceptable to break the law?

mikom

My name is URL wrote: »

What exactly am I stealing if I download an episode of QI?

Half an hour of Stephan frys time that he could instead be using to post twitter updates to every 2nd Pseudo-intellectual that follows him.

john-joe

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Limewire is like a Thai hooker, it does the job but there's a good chance you'll catch something and you may not get what you think you are.

Speaking from experience there?

blubloblu

70% of British people are against it in a governmnt poll published yesterday.

Turd Ferguson

Its so readily available these days it would be impossible to ban someone from using the interbuttz

GLaDOS

john-joe wrote: »

Or unless you think that it is acceptable to break the law?

Depends if you agree with the law.

GLaDOS

john-joe wrote: »

Speaking from experience there?

Yeah, I've used Limewire a few times

TPD

My name is URL wrote: »

What exactly am I stealing if I download an episode of QI?

I believe the answer you are looking for is Intellectual Property.

minidazzler

john-joe wrote: »

If it's breaking the law....

So is fighting back against someone who is assaulting you. But would you just lie there?

LEIN

blubloblu wrote: »

70% of British people are against it in a governmnt poll published yesterday.

Doubt that very much.

o1s1n

john-joe wrote: »

Alive & kicking and being robbed by people illegally downloading music. Or unless you think that it is acceptable to break the law?

I recently made a 'serious' comment about this subject in another thread. So I'm just gotta copy and paste that rather than write it out again -

Like art, the appreciation of music goes beyond money. I've put on quite a few exhibitions myself and get a kick out of seeing people appreciate the work I have made. If they wish to take a photo as a 'copy' I have no problem with that, it doesn't cost me anything. Better someone appreciate my work than not.

I feel the same about music. If you're a real musician you'll get joy from people appreciating your art. End of. Nobody >needs< to be a millionare.

I spend a fortune on concert tickets as it is. So in a way, that's how I 'contribute' to their art.

And as for the 'breaking the law' comment - shock shock horror, I jaywalk sometimes around the city centre when there are no cars on the road rather than wait for the green man. Even more shocking, other people do this too. Should we be banned from using the streets?

minidazzler

o1s1n wrote: »

I spend a fortune on concert tickets as it is. So in a way, that's how I 'contribute' to their art.

And as for the 'breaking the law' comment - shock shock horror, I jaywalk sometimes around the city centre when there are no cars on the road rather than wait for the green man. Even more shocking, other people do this too. Should we be banned from using the streets?

Relatively few musicians make royalties. Most of what they make would be their advance and then subsequently from concerts, so you are contributing to the bulk of their earnings.

Jay-walking is not illegal in Ireland.

My name is URL

The Perfect Drug wrote: »

I believe the answer you are looking for is Intellectual Property.

What exactly is that? I mean I'm not stealing their intellect and no physical property is in my possession

o1s1n

minidazzler wrote: »

Jay-walking is not illegal in Ireland.

It's not? :mad:

Excuse me while I go have a strong word with my mother...

TPD

My name is URL wrote: »

What exactly is that? I mean I'm not stealing their intellect and no physical property is in my possession

To be honest I thought you were making a pun, what with QI being an 'intellectual' show.

Anywho, I think the gripe they have with it is that if you download their show, they miss out on whatever money you would have paid if you'd bought the DVD box set. They still seem to care even if you wouldn't have bought the DVD box set anyway.

My name is URL

The Perfect Drug wrote: »

To be honest I thought you were making a pun, what with QI being an 'intellectual' show.

Oh eh, erm.. I was!.. he-he-he

*loosens necktie*

mahamageehad

Some laws are just stupid anyways, who cares if they're broken

Examples

donmeister

Getting episodes of Modern Family, 3 weeks before channel 3e ftw!

Stercus Accidit

The proposed three strikes laws are being resisted on grounds of basic human rights.

Households will be punished, for being associated with someone accused by a biased third party of an infringement.


No intelligent or honest person could support these proposals as they stand, Finland recently acknowledged 1mb broadband as a human right for example, france is trying to resist sarkozy's push for a three strikes law on constitutional grounds, our own Eircom bent over voluntarily like little girls and should lose business hand over fist for this, unfounded accusations that cannot be confronted are not grounds to break a contract, I hope that they disconnect a tech savvy individual with a point to prove in court.

Accusations have been levelled against printers on networks ffs, the plebs and basic, nay crude ip identification techniques used by the record industry are testament to their level of sophistication with regards new media, hence being left behind, and their wild accusations, huge law suits and disregard for justice shows exactly the sort of people legal music and film purchases support.

I'll download illegally on principal quite frankly, until artists own their own work, not a corrupt middleman.

Namlub

My name is URL wrote: »

What exactly am I stealing if I download an episode of QI?

A part of Stephen Fry's soul, that's what :mad: