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Should people who download (illegally) from the web be banned from the net

john-joe

Hi, just wondering does anyone think that anyone who illegally downloads music or movies be banned from the internet?

Just wanted to ask peoples opinion on this...

Thanks

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john-joe

o1s1n wrote: »

HOME TAPING IS KILLING MUSIC.

AND ITS ILLEGAL!

20 years later, music is still here, alive and kicking.

Alive & kicking and being robbed by people illegally downloading music. Or unless you think that it is acceptable to break the law?

mikom

My name is URL wrote: »

What exactly am I stealing if I download an episode of QI?

Half an hour of Stephan frys time that he could instead be using to post twitter updates to every 2nd Pseudo-intellectual that follows him.

john-joe

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Limewire is like a Thai hooker, it does the job but there's a good chance you'll catch something and you may not get what you think you are.

Speaking from experience there?

blubloblu

70% of British people are against it in a governmnt poll published yesterday.

Turd Ferguson

Its so readily available these days it would be impossible to ban someone from using the interbuttz

GLaDOS

john-joe wrote: »

Or unless you think that it is acceptable to break the law?

Depends if you agree with the law.

GLaDOS

john-joe wrote: »

Speaking from experience there?

Yeah, I've used Limewire a few times

TPD

My name is URL wrote: »

What exactly am I stealing if I download an episode of QI?

I believe the answer you are looking for is Intellectual Property.

minidazzler

john-joe wrote: »

If it's breaking the law....

So is fighting back against someone who is assaulting you. But would you just lie there?

LEIN

blubloblu wrote: »

70% of British people are against it in a governmnt poll published yesterday.

Doubt that very much.

o1s1n

john-joe wrote: »

Alive & kicking and being robbed by people illegally downloading music. Or unless you think that it is acceptable to break the law?

I recently made a 'serious' comment about this subject in another thread. So I'm just gotta copy and paste that rather than write it out again -

Like art, the appreciation of music goes beyond money. I've put on quite a few exhibitions myself and get a kick out of seeing people appreciate the work I have made. If they wish to take a photo as a 'copy' I have no problem with that, it doesn't cost me anything. Better someone appreciate my work than not.

I feel the same about music. If you're a real musician you'll get joy from people appreciating your art. End of. Nobody >needs< to be a millionare.

I spend a fortune on concert tickets as it is. So in a way, that's how I 'contribute' to their art.

And as for the 'breaking the law' comment - shock shock horror, I jaywalk sometimes around the city centre when there are no cars on the road rather than wait for the green man. Even more shocking, other people do this too. Should we be banned from using the streets?

minidazzler

o1s1n wrote: »

I spend a fortune on concert tickets as it is. So in a way, that's how I 'contribute' to their art.

And as for the 'breaking the law' comment - shock shock horror, I jaywalk sometimes around the city centre when there are no cars on the road rather than wait for the green man. Even more shocking, other people do this too. Should we be banned from using the streets?

Relatively few musicians make royalties. Most of what they make would be their advance and then subsequently from concerts, so you are contributing to the bulk of their earnings.

Jay-walking is not illegal in Ireland.

My name is URL

The Perfect Drug wrote: »

I believe the answer you are looking for is Intellectual Property.

What exactly is that? I mean I'm not stealing their intellect and no physical property is in my possession

o1s1n

minidazzler wrote: »

Jay-walking is not illegal in Ireland.

It's not? :mad:

Excuse me while I go have a strong word with my mother...

TPD

My name is URL wrote: »

What exactly is that? I mean I'm not stealing their intellect and no physical property is in my possession

To be honest I thought you were making a pun, what with QI being an 'intellectual' show.

Anywho, I think the gripe they have with it is that if you download their show, they miss out on whatever money you would have paid if you'd bought the DVD box set. They still seem to care even if you wouldn't have bought the DVD box set anyway.

My name is URL

The Perfect Drug wrote: »

To be honest I thought you were making a pun, what with QI being an 'intellectual' show.

Oh eh, erm.. I was!.. he-he-he

*loosens necktie*

mahamageehad

Some laws are just stupid anyways, who cares if they're broken

Examples

donmeister

Getting episodes of Modern Family, 3 weeks before channel 3e ftw!

Stercus Accidit

The proposed three strikes laws are being resisted on grounds of basic human rights.

Households will be punished, for being associated with someone accused by a biased third party of an infringement.

No intelligent or honest person could support these proposals as they stand, Finland recently acknowledged 1mb broadband as a human right for example, france is trying to resist sarkozy's push for a three strikes law on constitutional grounds, our own Eircom bent over voluntarily like little girls and should lose business hand over fist for this, unfounded accusations that cannot be confronted are not grounds to break a contract, I hope that they disconnect a tech savvy individual with a point to prove in court.

Accusations have been levelled against printers on networks ffs, the plebs and basic, nay crude ip identification techniques used by the record industry are testament to their level of sophistication with regards new media, hence being left behind, and their wild accusations, huge law suits and disregard for justice shows exactly the sort of people legal music and film purchases support.

I'll download illegally on principal quite frankly, until artists own their own work, not a corrupt middleman.

Namlub

My name is URL wrote: »

What exactly am I stealing if I download an episode of QI?

A part of Stephen Fry's soul, that's what :mad:

Mossy Monk

john-joe wrote: »

Hi, just wondering does anyone think that anyone who illegally downloads music or movies be banned from the internet?

Just wanted to ask peoples opinion on this...

Thanks

No. How would I go online to talk about the latest happenings on tv shows I have downloaded.

john-joe

Mossy Monk wrote: »

No. How would I go online to talk about the latest happenings on tv shows I have downloaded.

If you downloaded them in a legal manner then no problem going on the internet to discuss, but if you decided to illegally download them why should you be able to go online and talk or share them files with other users? *

*(by the way I am not accusing you of doing anything illegal) :cool:

Corkfeen

There would be very few left on the internet if they all got banned.

john-joe

Corkfeen wrote: »

There would be very few left on the internet if they all got banned.

Id be all alone so...

TheZohanS

john-joe wrote: »

Id be all alone so...

You could always split up your name so there'd be two of you.

My name is URL

john-joe wrote: »

Id be all alone so...

Hyper-linking to an image? :eek:

INFRINGEMENT!

o1s1n

My name is URL wrote: »

Hyper-linking to an image? :eek:

INFRINGEMENT!

Indeed. I hope he paid the author.

Neamhshuntasach

If i couldn't download the things i do i sure as fúck wouldn't be buying them. Especially at the prices they charge for them. Especially for tv shows.

Any artists music i download i will go to their gigs when they play here. That's where they make the bulk of their money. They actually make feck all off record sales. Touring is where it's at.

And i pay my television license. Everything i watch is/was or will be shown on tv. I just choose not watch it on tv and watch it when convenient for myself. That's the exact same as sticking a video in or recording it on a sky box etc.

john-joe

o1s1n wrote: »

Indeed. I hope he paid the author.

Paid in advance

bertie4evr

Why ban them for downloading an episode of House.You may as well cut off their electricity for using it to power the computer that illegally downloaded the episode of House.