graffiti artist in carlow???

jojo86

Hi im looking for a pretty good graffiti artist in carlow who can help me design something, pm me if you can help at all and ill fill u in on the details. Cheers oh examples of work would be great too

ShotgunBoy

What exactly do you have in mind?

Bobby1984

If you hang out around the multi story car park you will find a graffiti artist.

PS i wouldnt hire him/her to do anything cause the job they done was pretty crap.

Legendredhead

Uhhhhm im relatively new to this site,.. im not sure of the ins and outs of everything,.. but i suppose im a sorta graffiti artist,.. what did you have in mind for being designed,..? just to let you know im only 14 but i can safely say it would be a tough job finding any guy better, at my age anyway,.. i dont mean to sound full of myself,.. :P
I can show you some of my sketches if you like,..
So uhhm fill me in if you can please,...

Super-Rush

Did i see some of your work in Wexford recently. I think i might know you.

Legendredhead

The cow-stick and watermelon thing? Rage,.. yeah that was me,.. that was terrible though,.. It got washed away,. i didnt even use paint,.. Is that jody or martin?

Super-Rush

Its Martin.Welcome to boards Brian.

Legendredhead

Alrighgty,.. thanks,.

ten_typek

Hi, Is there anyone in Carlow who is responsible for professional painting graffiti? are there any places with graffiti? sorry for my English:)

91011

ten_typek wrote: »

Hi, Is there anyone in Carlow who is responsible for professional painting graffiti? are there any places with graffiti? sorry for my English:)

The Town Council is arranging to have many of the eyesores painted by college / schools to brighten the place up. - If you are looking to do something, maybe contact them?

foggy_lad

graffitti "artists" are the scourge of this and most other towns costing hunfdreds of thousands of taxpayers money every year, they should be in no way encouraged but reported for the vandals they are!

foggy_lad

Legendredhead wrote: »

The cow-stick and watermelon thing? Rage,.. yeah that was me,.. that was terrible though,.. It got washed away,. i didnt even use paint,.. Is that jody or martin?

Rage? is that your "tag" or mark?

i'm sure i have seen that painted on walls around the area and am sure the police would be interested in a chat if you were responsible for graffitti.

SV

foggy_lad wrote: »

graffitti "artists" are the scourge of this and most other towns costing hunfdreds of thousands of taxpayers money every year, they should be in no way encouraged but reported for the vandals they are!

Educate yourself.
Stop spouting shíte on this forum without having a clue what you're talking about.

Genghiz Cohen

foggy_lad wrote: »

graffitti "artists" are the scourge of this and most other towns costing hunfdreds of thousands of taxpayers money every year, they should be in no way encouraged but reported for the vandals they are!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

he's completely right.. if you want to draw on a building or wall, get permission otherwise you're a vandal and quite possibly a scumbag.

SV

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

he's completely right.. if you want to draw on a building or wall, get permission otherwise you're a vandal and quite possibly a scumbag.

How is he completely right?

There's a difference between a grafitti artist and a vandal.
Just like the difference between modified car enthusiasts and 'boy racers', most people just can't tell the difference for love nor money.
No matter what is said to them.

foggy_lad

Yes there is a difference between them as long as the graffiti artist sticks to doing commissioned work but in most cases they are simply vandals that are able to make some money out of it but most of their work will be illegal.

As for modified car enthusiasts well as long as they have the front side windows tinted and display non-standard number plates and race around the town screaming the engines and causing noise pollution and generally breaking the law they are nothing more than thugs with no respect for the law or society.

SV

foggy_lad wrote: »

Yes there is a difference between them as long as the graffiti artist sticks to doing commissioned work but in most cases they are simply vandals that are able to make some money out of it but most of their work will be illegal.

As for modified car enthusiasts well as long as they have the front side windows tinted and display non-standard number plates and race around the town screaming the engines and causing noise pollution and generally breaking the law they are nothing more than thugs with no respect for the law or society.

Your ignorance knows no bounds.
Might aswell go back to your hole.

foggy_lad

SV wrote: »

Your ignorance knows no bounds.
Might aswell go back to your hole.

ignorance?

where/how am i being ignorant?

i have seen several of those "modified" death traps roaring around the streets of carlow putting lives at risk, are these not true enthusiasts? do true enthusiasts obey all parts of the road traffic act re number plates front and rear and tinted windows and roadworthiness after the suspension has been butchered?

kwalshe

foggy_lad wrote: »

Yes there is a difference between them as long as the graffiti artist sticks to doing commissioned work but in most cases they are simply vandals that are able to make some money out of it but most of their work will be illegal.

As for modified car enthusiasts well as long as they have the front side windows tinted and display non-standard number plates and race around the town screaming the engines and causing noise pollution and generally breaking the law they are nothing more than thugs with no respect for the law or society.

To be fair Boy Racers buy their car junk in Halfords, wheras a "Modified Car Enthusiasts" buy over-priced car junk from the Internet. The difference between them to me is to be honest unclear anyway, they are both a nuisance on the roads.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

kwalshe wrote: »

To be fair Boy Racers buy their car junk in Halfords, wheras a "Modified Car Enthusiasts" buy over-priced car junk from the Internet. The difference between them to me is to be honest unclear anyway, they are both a nuisance on the roads.

"Boy racers" have cheap pieces of shíte of cars which they don't care much about so they drive around like retards, whereas enthusiasts pay good money for good stuff and don't drive around like retards, just because a car is loud doesn't mean it's being driven illegaly.

Ignorance here is unbelievable.

SV

Then you've never seen or met a modified car enthusiast, clear as that to be honest.
All you're seeing is boy racers and boyracers with money.

foggy_lad

SV wrote: »

Then you've never seen or met a modified car enthusiast, clear as that to be honest.
All you're seeing is boy racers and boyracers with money.

maybe you could enlighten me then with pictures of modified cars or enthusiasts? just because they are members of a club does not allow them ignore the law.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

foggy_lad wrote: »

maybe you could enlighten me then with pictures of modified cars or enthusiasts? just because they are members of a club does not allow them ignore the law.

Who said they ignore the law?
Or are you just making up stories to aid your argument?:rolleyes:

Enthusiast:


Boy racer:

foggy_lad

the blue one has no front number plate and there is nothing in either picture to say the exhausts on either are legal!

maybe we should open a new thread to discuss modified cars in carlow as it is not very appropriate to discuss it here?

kwalshe

SV wrote: »

Then you've never seen or met a modified car enthusiast, clear as that to be honest.
All you're seeing is boy racers and boyracers with money.

SV, You don't know me or anything about me . I'm not getting into an argument with you about cars etc in a thread called Graffiti artist in Carlow! , I really could'nt be bothered, especially with you..

3hn2givr7mx1sc

foggy_lad wrote: »

the blue one has no front number plate and there is nothing in either picture to say the exhausts on either are legal!

maybe we should open a new thread to discuss modified cars in carlow as it is not very appropriate to discuss it here?

A lot don't in photoshoots, and you'd be hard worked to find a boy racer who can afford an Impreza.

Who ever mentioned exhausts.

SV

kwalshe wrote: »

SV, You don't know me or anything about me . I'm not getting into an argument with you about cars etc in a thread called Graffiti artist in Carlow! , I really could'nt be bothered, especially with you..

I know you don't have a clue what you're talking about, which, for this thread is all that matters.

And 'especially not with me', what does that comment mean eh?

foggy_lad

Graffiti in its usual form is against the law here in Ireland as most "artists" do it wherever they like not caring about other peoples property or society in general who has to clean up after these wanna-be gangstas and rappa's

SV

foggy_lad wrote: »

Graffiti in its usual form is against the law here in Ireland as most "artists" do it wherever they like not caring about other peoples property or society in general who has to clean up after these wanna-be gangstas and rappa's

jesus tity fúcking christ man.
ya can't be serious with half of this shíte you come out with can you?

foggy_lad

They operate with the same type of attitude to law and social order as those that have non-standard number plates and heavily tinted windows on their cars, they are just a massive burden on society. But hey if you enjoy seeing your town and area destroyed by these mindless vandals that's fine but spare thought for your neighbours!

SV

foggy_lad wrote: »

They operate with the same type of attitude to law and social order as those that have non-standard number plates and heavily tinted windows on their cars, they are just a massive burden on society. But hey if you enjoy seeing your town and area destroyed by these mindless vandals that's fine but spare thought for your neighbours!

You really need to open your eyes a LOT.
You're one of the most ignorant people I've come across on boards, and that's saying a lot.

Super-Rush

I think we might all need to take a time out and cool off a bit.

Dboy85

Take the bitchin else where will yis ffs! The O.P's lookin for an artist not who has the moral high ground on boards. To the O.P I know someone who trained in NCAD who would most probably be glad of some commissioned work. What are you lookin to be designed?

zeds alive

Was going to offer my services but i noticed thread was originally from 2009:D

Graffiti is a polarizing "art form" I was heavily involved from about 1980-2004 but old age and a heavy work schedule got the better of me.
I do agree with some of the posts about how unsightly it looks but the standard of graffiti in Ireland is pretty bad and in the majority cases I see its idiots writing crap like "your mum smells" which is ugly and stupid... but then again one mans rubbish is another mans art.

Art





Rubbish

zeds alive

foggy_lad wrote: »

wanna-be gangstas and rappa's

Your posts are great , either you're a professional troll or insanely deluded

foggy_lad

zeds alive wrote: »

Your posts are great , either you're a professional troll or insanely deluded

what you describe as art in your post above is only that if the owner of the property that has been defaced has agreed to having this done.

otherwise it is an illegal act of vandalism and the "artists" deserve to have the book thrown at them in court as well as being made pay for any clean-up operation or have their prison sentance lengthened if they plead inability to pay.

SV

foggy_lad wrote: »

what you describe as art in your post above is only that if the owner of the property that has been defaced has agreed to having this done.

here's what you do for the night, learn what 'defaced' means.
good boy.

zeds alive

foggy_lad wrote: »

what you describe as art in your post above is only that if the owner of the property that has been defaced has agreed to having this done.

otherwise it is an illegal act of vandalism and the "artists" deserve to have the book thrown at them in court as well as being made pay for any clean-up operation or have their prison sentance lengthened if they plead inability to pay.

Like I said one mans rubbish is another mans art. I have been caught about 8/9 times in my younger days and never recieved a conviction , I think the most was £300 fine and that was in 1993 its very rare for any graffiti artist to get jailed.

The biggest hypocrisy I have ever seen when it comes to graffiti is in England...

This is considered art and has a value and gets protected by local governments
http://www.banksy.co.uk/



While this is considered vandalism and carries a fine and possible conviction



Strange world we live in

foggy_lad

SV wrote: »

here's what you do for the night, learn what 'defaced' means.
good boy.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/deface

1. To mar or spoil the appearance or surface of; disfigure.

http://www.rockartcreations.com/glossary.html

Deface: Spoiling the surface of an object.

http://www.yourdictionary.com/defaced

1. to spoil the appearance of; disfigure; mar
2. to make illegible by injuring the surface of

http://www.answers.com/topic/deface

1. To mar or spoil the appearance or surface of; disfigure.
2. To impair the usefulness, value, or influence of.
3. Obsolete. To obliterate; destroy.

is that enough or shall i continue? deface is to take from or destroy the appearance of a surface so a white wall or bare wall is defaced by graffitti

foggy_lad

zeds alive wrote: »

Like I said one mans rubbish is another mans art. I have been caught about 8/9 times in my younger days and never recieved a conviction , I think the most was £300 fine and that was in 1993 its very rare for any graffiti artist to get jailed.

The biggest hypocrisy I have ever seen when it comes to graffiti is in England...

This is considered art and has a value and gets protected by local governments
http://www.banksy.co.uk/



While this is considered vandalism and carries a fine and possible conviction



Strange world we live in

indeed it is strange but one has obviously been commissioned by the local council and the other has been done by vandals albeit relatively talented ones but who is to say if they were not high on the illegality of their actions that they would produce the same results?

Super-Rush

foggy_lad wrote: »

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/deface

http://www.rockartcreations.com/glossary.html

http://www.yourdictionary.com/defaced

http://www.answers.com/topic/deface


is that enough or shall i continue? deface is to take from or destroy the appearance of a surface so a white wall or bare wall is defaced by graffitti

The property in the last two pictures has certainly been defaced but the previous three were not imo.

zeds alive

foggy_lad wrote: »

indeed it is strange but one has obviously been commissioned by the local council

Nope , none of the guys work is commissioned its all illegal graffiti , its just that madonna and other a-list celebrities decided his graffiti was 'art' and now he's a multi-millionaire ,local councils even remove sections of walls he has "vandalized" and put them in museums.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banksy

foggy_lad wrote: »

vandals

The above proves that the title "vandal" in the case of graffiti is decided by monetary value.

foggy_lad wrote: »

if they were not high on the illegality of their actions that they would produce the same results?

Of course , 99% of graffiti artists reproduce their work to scale , from notepad to whatever surface

Essien

A work of art is a work of art and I certainly agree with zeds alive that some of the examples given should be considered art.
However, a work of art sprayed on my property without my consent is vandalism. I don't care if Banksy, Michaelangelo and Monet all collaborated in it, if they don't have permission its vandalism.

zeds alive

Essien wrote: »

However, a work of art sprayed on my property without my consent is vandalism. I don't care if Banksy, Michaelangelo and Monet all collaborated in it, if they don't have permission its vandalism.

Agreed , I'm not condoning vandalism , just pointing out the thin line between artist and vandal.

I blame the Romans they started it all

foggy_lad

There may be a very thin line but it does not make vandalism acceptable. And this kind of blatant disregard for other's property usually leads to more serious laws being broken.

zeds alive

foggy_lad wrote: »

And this kind of blatant disregard for other's property usually leads to more serious laws being broken.

Yes most graffiti artists are known to rob banks and rape nuns after putting up pictures.
Are you the kind of person who says music like hip hop causes young kinds to go out and commit crime , but then again what was Hitler listening to? By that reckoning we should be very very scared of Wagner and Beethoven fans

questioner

banksy's stuff was (is?) frequently painted over by county councils displaying the same sort of boorish mentality some posting here share.

As long as there is art there will be philistines, to denigrate graffiti in the manner some have done is evidence of cringeworthy secularism. Do people hoenstly believe that art can only exist in mueseums? if you want to justify painting over graffiti do so because the bare wall is more aesthetically pleasing than the graffiti, but dont do it becuse "durr durr its VANDALISM". Some of the greatest works of literature were banned because of pig headed fools who believed that it wasnt right or proper for them to be published. Art is not there to be validated by us as a society or a few individuals who have declared a monopoly on public space.


As for the boy racer thing, note the "boy" part, yeah young lads drive silly cars, so what? who cares? people do silly things when there young. they'll soon grow up and start letting society dictate what car it is proper for them to drive.


edit. op, try posting in the NCAD forum, someone there should be able to help you

and by the way something isnt defaced if its made better.

kumate_champ07

just because someone puts up something on a wall doesnt make it art. there is good and bad 'graffiti'
if it's on a building that is not in use i dont see the problem, or if it's very well done and puts a smile on peoples faces

foggy_lad

is this art?

kumate_champ07

foggy_lad wrote: »

is this art?

no, they are 'tags'
LA has miles of train tracks that I've seen (Amtrack) with tags along the adjacent walls, some are very intricate, others are scribbles. tho picking out which material is actual art is subjective and sometimes impossible

the tags can be done for different reasons.
boredom,
marking territory,
or making a name for yourself/gaining respect from peers in relation to where you place your tags/the dangers involved in the act