Common misconceptions universally accepted

TheBlock

Elivis ain't dead baby......he's just havin a break uhhh.

Theta

lee_arama wrote: »

Might have been mentioned alright - but AFAIK they did in fact use the line...though it may have been in one of the later movies or the Relics episode from TNG.

Twas in the one with the dyson sphere if my nerd memory is correct. (which reading your post again and looking it up is the episode called relics)

Im surprised I remembered that from my childhood.

Ro: maaan!

Don't think anyone said it in that ep either. Don't think he even handled the transporter controls. Wouldn't be surprised if it popped up in the next movie though with all their references to old Trek.

Blazer

Wazdakka wrote: »

The lamp is a lie

Thank Christ....I'm not a bloody perverted bastard then as my co-workers said

indough

dlofnep wrote: »

But aren't humans apes? I think it would be more accurate to say that humans evolved as an ape.

both are correct, just because we ae still apes doesnt change the fact that we evolved from apes

we just evolved from a less to a more advanced type

IvyTheTerrible

me_right_one wrote: »

Newgrange!

A misconception about Newgrange is that it had the facade with the white stones etc like you see now. But aparently it was the chief archaelogist who decided based on loose evidence that that was what it would have looked like.

whatdoicare

That true celtic Irish people have red hair, green eyes and freckles- true celts were dark with grey eyes and apparantly (according to that documentary on rte) we all originated from Northern Spain? Mad....

luckylucky

whatdoicare wrote: »

That true celtic Irish people have red hair, green eyes and freckles- true celts were dark with grey eyes and apparantly (according to that documentary on rte) we all originated from Northern Spain? Mad....

Grey eyes eh - were they aliens then? :P

Well tbh I never held that true celts had red hair, green eyes and freckles (these are more Pictish traits), so I have doubts as to how common a misconception that is. I always had it that true celts were brown haired, blue eyed and came out of central europe.

I didn't see the program but afaik the colonists from Northern Spain that you refer to were more a pre-celtic (people probably closely related to the Basques) whom our genetic heritage and to a lesser extent Britain's is still heavily derived from, the amount of Celts that came to Ireland is now believed to have been small but they had a big impact because of their Iron technology.

whatdoicare

luckylucky wrote: »

Grey eyes eh - were they aliens then? :P

I have grey eyes. Am I an alien??

Well tbh I never held that true celts had red hair, green eyes and freckles (these are more Pictish traits), so I have doubts as to how common a misconception that is. I always had it that true celts were brown haired, blue eyed and came out of central europe.

Most middle aged people I know think it's a true Irish trait and think I'm mad to suggest otherwise...also anyone outside Ireland thinks it too (that and that we have no electricity??)

I didn't see the program but afaik the colonists from Northern Spain that you refer to were more a pre-celtic (people probably closely related to the Basques) whom our genetic heritage and to a lesser extent Britain's is still heavily derived from, the amount of Celts that came to Ireland is now believed to have been small but they had a big impact because of their Iron technology.

Spot on...that's it exactly

luckylucky

whatdoicare wrote: »

I have grey eyes. Am I an alien??

Well are they grey, or greyey blue or grey green(is that possible?)? Coz I've never seen pure grey eyes have to say.

whatdoicare wrote: »

Most middle aged people I know think it's a true Irish trait and think I'm mad to suggest otherwise

Well they are right to an extent it is a relatively more common trait in Ireland as it is in Scotland compared to other parts of Europe - particularly southern Europe where it's very rare. Still I think red hair is held by less than 9%( a lot of us have some recessive red haired genes going on of course) of Irish people so you only need to use your own eyes to tell it's only a trait of some Irish people. Anyway basically it is one of the typical traits of Irish people but as you say it's not a Celtic trait. That's probably the key difference.

whatdoicare

luckylucky wrote: »

Well are they grey, or greyey blue or grey green(is that possible?)? Coz I've never seen pure grey eyes have to say.

Um....lessee
I have to say grey...like the colour- possibly a dark grey/blue ring on the outside with a kind of gold near the iris. Yeah, I've weird eyes...I am possibly an alien:pac:

Well they are right to an extent it is a relatively more common trait in Ireland as it is in Scotland compared to other parts of Europe - particularly southern Europe where it's very rare. Still I think red hair is held by less than 9%( a lot of us have some recessive red haired genes going on of course) of Irish people so you only need to use your own eyes to tell it's only a trait of some Irish people. Anyway basically it is one of the atypical traits of Irish people but as you say it's not a Celtic trait. That's probably the key difference.

Travelling was hilarious due to this misconception about Irish and red hair/pale skin- I often got pulled aside in America for passport checks because my surname is typical Irish but I'm tanned and dark. They just assumed I was a foreigner pulling a fast one. My family history is 100% typical Irish btw- no idea why were all so tanned haha

ScumLord

whatdoicare wrote: »

My family history is 100% typical Irish btw- no idea why were all so tanned haha

You must be some sort of genetic freak, how many toes do you have?

-Leelo-

javaboy wrote: »

That the opening jangly chord of A Hard Day's Night is a G7sus4. It's actually an Fadd9.

Gary Coleman never actually said What you talkin bout Willis.

That if the wind changes while you're sitting really close to the telly, the ghost from 3 men and a little baby will carve your eyes into squares. In reality most tellys especially modern ones have an aspect ratio of more than 1:1. So your eyes would actually end up rectangular.

That the expression "throwing shapes" on a dancefloor refers to the energetic nature of the dancing. It actually dates back to medieval times when potential suitors would literally throw hoops and other objects with gaps in them at a woman they wanted to court. If they successfully "hooped" her, she was obliged to dance with them.

It'snot that Gary Coleman never said What You talkin bout willis - the script read What are you talking about Willis and he read it wrong.

IvyTheTerrible

-Leelo- wrote: »

It'snot that Gary Coleman never said What You talkin bout willis - the script read What are you talking about Willis and he read it wrong.

In other words, he never said it.

whatdoicare

ScumLord wrote: »

You must be some sort of genetic freak, how many toes do you have?

Ummmm......ten? The webbing is okay right??:eek:

luckylucky

whatdoicare wrote: »

Um....lessee
I have to say grey...like the colour- possibly a dark grey/blue ring on the outside with a kind of gold near the iris. Yeah, I've weird eyes...I am possibly an alien:pac:



Travelling was hilarious due to this misconception about Irish and red hair/pale skin- I often got pulled aside in America for passport checks because my surname is typical Irish but I'm tanned and dark. They just assumed I was a foreigner pulling a fast one. My family history is 100% typical Irish btw- no idea why were all so tanned haha

Well pale skin is pretty typical alright. Though I live in a sunny climate, I don't tan that easily and when I do it fades away quickly enough - don't even bother trying now as the only thing the sun's going to give me is skin damage However when I go back home I'm relatively tanned in comparison to the numerous milky whites I see :P. Personally over the last few years foreigners often seem to think I'm a Russian or other eastern European for some reason. Even got sort of heckled in Madrid by a group of road workers calling me Ruso (Spanish for Russian) when I walked past.

whatdoicare

luckylucky wrote: »

Well pale skin is pretty typical alright. Though I live in a sunny climate, I don't tan that easily and when I do it fades away quickly enough - don't even bother trying now as the only thing the sun's going to give me is skin damage However when I go back home I'm relatively tanned in comparison to the numerous milky whites I see :P. Personally over the last few years foreigners often seem to think I'm a Russian or other eastern European for some reason. Even got sort of heckled in Madrid by a group of road workers calling me Ruso (Spanish for Russian) when I walked past.

I had a boss once who on hearing me help a customer turned to her assistant manager and said "That foreigner has great English!":pac:

Namlub

me_right_one wrote: »

That cork has, or ever had, a right to call itself the real capital. The real capital of Ireland is Tara

Tara's not New York, you don't have to name it twice.

ScumLord

whatdoicare wrote: »

Ummmm......ten? The webbing is okay right??:eek:

It sure is, for a fish person.:pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k

There he said it.

m@cc@

whatdoicare wrote: »

I had a boss once who on hearing me help a customer turned to her assistant manager and said "That foreigner has great English!":pac:

An explanation of your circumstances would help. Are you Irish living in Ireland etc?

whatdoicare

m@cc@ wrote: »

An explanation of your circumstances would help. Are you Irish living in Ireland etc?

If you read the full conversation you'd know :pac: I'm 100% Irish living and working In Ireland. The conversation started because of the misconception that red hair and feckles are the standard whereas I'm 100% Irish and am dark with a tan.

m@cc@

whatdoicare wrote: »

If you read the full conversation you'd know :pac: I'm 100% Irish living and working In Ireland. The conversation started because of the misconception that red hair and feckles are the standard whereas I'm 100% Irish and am dark with a tan.

Read the full conversation? Pah!

IvyTheTerrible

whatdoicare wrote: »

If you read the full conversation you'd know :pac: I'm 100% Irish living and working In Ireland. The conversation started because of the misconception that red hair and feckles are the standard whereas I'm 100% Irish and am dark with a tan.

Are you sure though that you are 100% Irish? I have heard that 1 out of every 10 people have a father who isn't who they think it is...so way back in your family history, someone could have had a bit of a mess around with a Spanish sailor...

luckylucky

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Are you sure though that you are 100% Irish? I have heard that 1 out of every 10 people have a father who isn't who they think it is...so way back in your family history, someone could have had a bit of a mess around with a Spanish sailor...

Yeah I heard that before too. It's meant to be pretty universal too, i.e. irrespective of race and religion. I think the only exceptions are England and Dublin where it's something like 2 out of every 3

Anyway supposed that was true, that he has an unknown Spanish sailor ancestor from a few centuries ago. He'd still be 100% Irish as those genes would be sort of spread about a bit more now in Ireland. Otherwise at this stage there'd be precious few of us who are 100% Irish.

IvyTheTerrible

luckylucky wrote: »

Yeah I heard that before too. It's meant to be pretty universal too, i.e. irrespective of race and religion. I think the only exceptions are England and Dublin where it's something like 2 out of every 3

Anyway supposed that was true, that he has an unknown Spanish sailor ancestor from a few centuries ago. He'd still be 100% Irish as those genes would be sort of spread about a bit more now in Ireland. Otherwise at this stage there'd be precious few of us who are 100% Irish.

Well there really is no such thing as 100% Irish. We're mongrels really!

Hmm. You're probably right. But it is interesting cos my mum's family is very dark and they swear there are only Irish in the family...I have my doubts...:)

luckylucky

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Well there really is no such thing as 100% Irish. We're mongrels really![/QUOTE]

As or just about every people.

IvyTheTerrible

luckylucky wrote: »

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Well there really is no such thing as 100% Irish. We're mongrels really![/QUOTE]

As or just about every people.

That's what I mean (just mentioned Irish cos that's what we were talking about).

Kipperhell

Harsh prison sentences deter people when all studies of human nature say fear of being caught is the greatest deterrent. This is because if people do something 5 times and don't get caught they will soon adapt and continue as if there is nothing to get caught for. The sentence obviously can't be too light either to make there no point in being caught.

whatdoicare

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Are you sure though that you are 100% Irish? I have heard that 1 out of every 10 people have a father who isn't who they think it is...so way back in your family history, someone could have had a bit of a mess around with a Spanish sailor...

Actually that too is a misconception- most sailors were drowned and those that survived were mostly put to death, it seems only about 100 managed to stay on Irish soil. Nope, the dark skin has been there all along- as far as the family history goes anyway. Plus, I'm historically from the wrong side of Ireland for the Armada theory. :pac:

luckylucky

whatdoicare wrote: »

Actually that too is a misconception- most sailors were drowned and those that survived were mostly put to death, it seems only about 100 managed to stay on Irish soil.

eh where did he say he was talking about the Spanish Armada :pac: