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Packers 2009

  • 14-09-2009 7:50pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭


    Good start for the 'Pack, won one they shouldn't have won, change from last season.

    RT Allen Bairbre had a 'mare, fair play to the poor guy for facing the media afterwards.

    Frikken penalties on off. nearly beat them, but at least Rodgers got a drive in the last two minutes into the house.


    Go Packers. Defense was excellent.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I reckon they'll win the NFC, a big year is in store for sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Karlusss


    Definitely made the right decision going to Rodgers last year. He had a big year yards-wise, but this year he's ready to go and do that mythological quarterback stuff. The 3-4 seems to be working well too, and they'll get BJ Raji in there too when he's back. I fancy them for the NFC as well, or at least to go close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    As I said in week 1 thread. Very impressed with our defence. Much much improved over last year.
    We need to deal with the o-line issues. Rodgers was hurried way too much, Hopefully that's just a bedding in thing. If we can deal with that then I think we are set for a really strong year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    cooker3 wrote: »
    As I said in week 1 thread. Very impressed with our defence. Much much improved over last year.
    We need to deal with the o-line issues. Rodgers was hurried way too much, Hopefully that's just a bedding in thing. If we can deal with that then I think we are set for a really strong year.

    Hurried yes indeed, didn't throw anything of significance until the last bomb. and sacked three times if I am correct.

    Kind of negates the WR corps if he hasn't time to throw to them in deep situations.

    If they win the NFC North Div. title it will be good, NFC title is not on the horizon for me after that display.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    O-Line was harrassed alot but that is a good Bears team and they wont play against many defense like that.

    also even wen ROdgers was hurried he got out of the pocket well and showed the inventiveness and sharpness to go for the slide.

    happy enough as long as no injuries wreck us again!


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Good start for the 'Pack, won one they shouldn't have won, change from last season.

    Results against Bears since '04 not so good. Think '03 was last time Pack won at Lambeau and that smaller place where the Bears play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 allj97


    Best thing about Sunday was we won a game that went to the wire - how many of those did we lose last year !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Results against Bears since '04 not so good. Think '03 was last time Pack won at Lambeau and that smaller place where the Bears play.

    McCarthy is 3-4 against the Bears, including last Sunday's win and last November's 37-3 drubbing at Lambeau. Forgot that? Any win against the Bears is worthwhile and important. The Bears D is a good un. No turnovers is good and the D played well, with 4 TO's of their own.

    It's a good start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,608 ✭✭✭themont85


    Whilst I was impressed with the Packers 3-4 in the first half there are I suppose you could call 'teething problems'. The run stop was good. The Packers were blitzing heavily with the corners to get pressure on Cutler which worked well. However, 2 of Culter's picks were imo down to either the Bears poor wide outs and/or lack of cohesion between Culter and them. It left you exposed though at times to the deep ball and against a more accomlished passing attack I would be slightly worried about that. Hester in particular did some serious damage on Woodson and Harris in the second when the Bears began to pick up more blitzes.

    Pluses are that Grant is going very well but coversley the right tackle had a nightmare. The Bears should have won that game, the Bears of last year probably would have, they usually make mistake free games but on Sunday some of the mistakes were ridiculous.

    I can't look past the Vikings though to win, reckon either Packers or Bears will get wildcard, next year though they should both be stronger.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    McCarthy is 3-4 against the Bears, including last Sunday's win and last November's 37-3 drubbing at Lambeau. Forgot that?

    No no, I said that '03 was the last time Pack won at both Lambeau and Chicago.

    Am I wrong?

    As I started following the Pack in 1985 and had to wait a few years to see Don Majkowski finally break the domination, I know how good a win v the Bears is. The only point I was making is that GB hasn't managed a double in a few years, that's all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    No no, I said that '03 was the last time Pack won at both Lambeau and Chicago.

    Ah right. I misunderstood.

    I've been following the Pack since '82. When Majkowski went down early in the '92 season I thought it was going to be a disaster. :D


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    When Majkowski went down early in the '92 season I thought it was going to be a disaster. :D

    Still, will never forget Majkowski's contribution. 1989 was the first time I felt really proud to be a Packers fan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Fcukers are muddling their way thru Cincy.

    3rd and about 40, fcukers give up a first.


    Sweet jaysus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Beaten and deservedly so.

    What a crock:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    /Bangs head on table.

    Cedric fcuking Benson, like WTF? Up till this, the guy couldn't run more than 3 inches at a time, but now he can run all over the Packers' much-vaunted defence? If Rodgers keeps getting sacked at the current rate they'll need to activate Brohm, and sign a few more backups.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Agree totally.... frustrating display of total ineptitude in almost every department... and at home too.

    3rd down allows was laughable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    Are they still recruiting in the O-Line... I reckon i could pile on the pounds... Plenty of fry brekkies, doughnuts and burgers! Anything be better than that!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Are they still recruiting in the O-Line... I reckon i could pile on the pounds... Plenty of fry brekkies, doughnuts and burgers! Anything be better than that!!

    You do realise that Offensive linemen in the NFL are actually very athletic :D You are confusing their diets with that of a Big D nose Tackle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Vince Wilfork??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Packers O needs to fess up fast.

    From reading some sites seems there is a bit of upset there.

    First Tauscher is gone, now Clifton is out for some time

    Spitz will to move to LT and Scotty into the center with Colledge at RG.

    That may not be totally accurate, but one thing is clear, the Pack OL is fcuked up big time .

    Maybe Colledge will go to LT and Spitz as Guard but either way it's a fckup.

    James Campen under pressure????


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Vince Wilfork??

    Wilfork is a D tackle hence why I said diet of a Nose tackle i.e Wilfork types.:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Yep.. I hear ya barkin' big dog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    Are they still recruiting in the O-Line... I reckon i could pile on the pounds... Plenty of fry brekkies, doughnuts and burgers! Anything be better than that!!
    You do realise that Offensive linemen in the NFL are actually very athletic :D You are confusing their diets with that of a Big D nose Tackle.

    yes i know that if you see at the end
    Anything be better than that!!
    it was an exageration!

    just tough to take taht defeat after beating the bears altho they did find gaps in the line then too so maybe its a long-term problem taht might be there for the season! :-(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    You do realise that Offensive linemen in the NFL are actually very athletic :D You are confusing their diets with that of a Big D nose Tackle.

    Michael Carter was an NT. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Michael Carter was an NT. :pac:[/QUOTE

    So was Jerry Ball ;)

    Fcuker was built like a bowling ball


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Michael Carter was an NT. :pac:
    So was Jerry Ball ;)

    Fcuker was built like a bowling ball

    Thats nice :D

    But you are more likely to find the big dudes and by big I mean 330+ muscle and fat combo who would lift you and your house as nose tackles and they defo lack the same stamina and agility as an olineman. But even these guys are fitter than me or you :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Thats nice :D

    But you are more likely to find the big dudes and by big I mean 330+ muscle and fat combo who would lift you and your house as nose tackles and they defo lack the same stamina and agility as an olineman. But even these guys are fitter than me or you :D


    Yep I agree , Kent Hull to legendary center for the Buffalo Bills was asked about doing reps against Fred Smerlas the Bills NT.

    Kent described him as "Like a jukebox with hair"

    Thought that was a great description.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    B.J Raji starting on the nose today.


    Could be a good 'un.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Aren't I glad I started Mason Crosby this week? :rolleyes:

    A few TD passes from Rodgers to Jennings would be nice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    Reasonable performance. Still a lot to improve on. St. Louis should have never been in with a chance. We didn't convert enough in the first quarter.
    Our running game needs a lot of improvement. Rodgers ran more impressively then Grant did.
    Huge game next week away to the Vikings. We need to improve a lot over today's performance if we want to win imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    2 sacsk again and 3rd downs not great again.. but a win is a win and we'll keep on trucking. If Rodgers misses much fear for the season.

    Bring on the Vikings!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    A good win. Winning by 19 pts on the road is good, very good.

    Crunch game next week. I'd like to see #4 tossing 4 pick-sixes. And hopefully he'll end up on his butt a few times, too. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    cooker3 wrote: »
    Reasonable performance. Still a lot to improve on. St. Louis should have never been in with a chance. We didn't convert enough in the first quarter.
    Our running game needs a lot of improvement. Rodgers ran more impressively then Grant did.
    Huge game next week away to the Vikings. We need to improve a lot over today's performance if we want to win imo.


    Indeed indeed.

    3rd down production abysmal,and Grant really not at fault that much from the commentary, nowhere to go.

    Plus side is they will be pumped up, and if they can limit Vikes on the ground, they could shade it.

    Will need to move it up quite a few notches though, blockers and OL plus run D will definately have to get the finger out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 105 ✭✭Iceman_5000


    Did anyone notice the guy wearing the Ireland rugby jersy at the home opener? Think it was after Jolly got the pick and it scaned the crowd. I had time to sky+ it cud i frickin hate the channel FIVE nfl team, 2 muppets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Did anyone notice the guy wearing the Ireland rugby jersy at the home opener? Think it was after Jolly got the pick and it scaned the crowd. I had time to sky+ it cud i frickin hate the channel FIVE nfl team, 2 muppets.

    That was one of my buddies he was on the sideline a few rows back. Bald head and green rugby jersey. We noticed it on the big screen during the game. Myself and the other lads sitting up higher.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Not expecting a Packer win tonight.

    Reckon Vikes D line and Adrian Peterson will do a lot of damage.

    Hopefully I'm wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    Pretty demoralising. I felt we needed to play our best and we made too many mistakes. Too many penalty flags, our 3rd down defence was leaky and give up big plays at really inopportune moments. We never touched Favre or even came close. There was that 1 play where he had 8 seconds to pick out someone.
    Also, our running game and o-line just have not performed at all this season. I think a wildcard game is as good as it's going to get unless we have major improvements.

    On plus side we stopped AP for the most part and Aaron had a good game although that is tempered by that fumble and interception. That really killed us.

    I have to say Minnesota look a really good team. I could see them going all the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,450 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Minnesota look the business alright.

    Again on Aaron Rodgers, he is getting huge yardage but he is holding onto the ball too long, thats bringing on the sacks. If he continues to hold onto the ball like that, games are going to go against you and his career will be a lot shorter than it should be. Its a huge hole in his game. The guy has a great arm and nice bunch of receivers and you will beat a lot of teams but good defenses are always going to be a huge problem for a QB that is willing to take a sack and possible fumble rather than throw that ball away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭vinylbomb


    Just finished watching it, wow, Jared Allen is a beast.
    I thought Favre was done by this stage, but he was **** hot tonight.
    If they can repeat that level of performance regularly they will go to the Conference game at least


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Two of the packers dropped catchable balls, De Shawn Wynn and the TE Martin.

    Can't be doing that and winning.

    penalties again hurt us, but the crowd noise was awesome.

    I take something from the game, we didn't fold up and were in touch almost to the end.

    Roll on the home game in Lambeau.

    Vikes are a good team in fairness.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    Two of the packers dropped catchable balls, De Shawn Wynn and the TE Martin.

    Can't be doing that and winning.

    penalties again hurt us, but the crowd noise was awesome.

    I take something from the game, we didn't fold up and were in touch almost to the end.

    Roll on the home game in Lambeau.

    Vikes are a good team in fairness.

    Yeah the atmosphere was outstanding. My brother who in no way watches nfl but knew the game was big by how I was going on about it all week watched the first half and he was saying how fantastic it was as a spectacle because of the stadium, crowd noise etc.
    I wouldn't want to go there in January.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    :eek:

    Why not.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭ReacherCreature


    cooker3 wrote: »
    I wouldn't want to go there in January.

    Why not? That's probably going to be the second biggest game of the year the way the media love Favre!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    Oh I didn't mean I wouldn't want to go I meant the packers in a play-off match :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭ReacherCreature


    cooker3 wrote: »
    Oh I didn't mean I wouldn't want to go I meant the packers in a play-off match :)

    Makes a lot of sense!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    I see they don't seem to have signed up Tauscher?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭christopher


    great to see some other packer fans in ireland, i thought i was all alone!!

    tauscher's been signed up, sooner we get him into the O-line the better!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Plenty of Pack fans here Chris, welcome aboard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭christopher


    good to be aboard sir, i've been following them since i was about 7 years old on and off, and since my budget now finally stretches to having sky sports, i've really gotten back into them in a big way the last few years! planning my first trip to lambeau next year with any luck

    is there an irish fanclub or anything?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Not sure about that,don't think so.

    I'm delighted Tauscher in back in the squad.


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