M17/M18 - Gort to Tuam [open to traffic]

m17

I have 2 pics in the townland of managh corofin pic1 13/04/15 pic 2 11/06/15 roadbridge have done unreal work over the past 8 weeks

busyatwork

m17 wrote: »

I have 2 pics in the townland of managh corofin pic1 13/04/15 pic 2 11/06/15 roadbridge have done unreal work over the past 8 weeks

Ya should take a few pictures down where wills bros are they a ploughting trought it
they are saying there is too much rock and no topsoil
they have diggers and riddle buckets trying ta get a few loads

i just seen the map that lagans section that wills are doing 22km with 23 road crossing seems an awfull lot bad planning if you ask me

ratracer

Today I took the mountain bike for a spin along the route from the end of the existing motorway at Gort up to the Kiltiernan Interchange. Distance is just shy of 13km. Screen shot of route from Strava:



Took some pics, I'll upload them later.

ItHurtsWhenIP

ratracer wrote: »

Today I took the mountain bike for a spin along the route from the end of the existing motorway at Gort up to the Kiltiernan Interchange. Distance is just shy of 13km. Screen shot of route from Strava:



Took some pics, I'll upload them later.

I presume the graph at the bottom is showing elevation changes? It seems a fairly flat route. Probably an easy cycle! :P

D Trent

Tis a bit too curvy for my liking

Bit of an Amanda Brunker don't you think

ratracer

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

I presume the graph at the bottom is showing elevation changes? It seems a fairly flat route. Probably an easy cycle! :P

It will be when the tar is laid....

ratracer

Pics from today, when I cycled the route, showing most of the road crossings from Gort to Kiltiernan. I hope to cycle it again in about a month and take pics at the same locations again, just to gauge progress. The first section of the road from the end of the motorway to the first crossing is still grass, but the rest of the way has hard surface varying from compacted clay to gravel, or large rock sections.

1)End of current motorway:


2)Coole Park Xing:


3)The view north from Coole Park Road:


4)Kiltartan Xing:


5)Labane - Kinvara Road Xing:


6) Ardrahan - Kinvara Road Xing:


7)New road layout ready for use. Starting this week I think:


8)Let sleeping dogs lie...


9)The end of the road, for me anyway...Kiltiernan interchange. The banking is getting ready for the overpass:


One thing I noticed along the way were loads of timber crosses with markings on them like FRL +0.5m, FRL +1.0m etc....are these the heights the final road level will be?

Harps

Nice pics some good progress being made by the looks of it

And yes probably profile boards showing the finish level

severeoversteer

rat racer

the timbers you saw were more than likely sight rails

yes they are used for setting the levels of the road as well as the formation level etc etc

m17

Rock blasting in corofin next tuesday 16/06/15

ratracer

ratracer wrote: »

Today I took the mountain bike for a spin along the route from the end of the existing motorway at Gort up to the Kiltiernan Interchange. Distance is just shy of 13km. Screen shot of route from Strava:



Took some pics, I'll upload them later.

Hi, do you have the raw GPS file of your journey? If you do, would you be able to upload it to OpenStreetMap and make the GPS trace public, that way I can trace the full route out.

Also, the pics you are taking along the route, did you have GPS enabled when you took them? If so, would you be able to upload them to Mapillary. Each time you do the route and take photos, the images will stack so we can see changes over time

ratracer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hi, do you have the raw GPS file of your journey? If you do, would you be able to upload it to OpenStreetMap and make the GPS trace public, that way I can trace the full route out.

Also, the pics you are taking along the route, did you have GPS enabled when you took them? If so, would you be able to upload them to Mapillary. Each time you do the route and take photos, the images will stack so we can see changes over time

The short answer is I have no idea, i'm not familiar with either of those sites but I'll try it during the week.

mackerski

ratracer wrote: »

The short answer is I have no idea, i'm not familiar with either of those sites but I'll try it during the week.

This vid appears to explain how to get a GPX file from what you have - that would be perfect for a start:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SupLkoMttro

Schadenfreudia

Deleted User wrote: »

Hi, do you have the raw GPS file of your journey? If you do, would you be able to upload it to OpenStreetMap and make the GPS trace public, that way I can trace the full route out.

Somebody has already put the route on OSM - is it not accurate?

mackerski

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

Somebody has already put the route on OSM - is it not accurate?

So they have. 17 days ago, by the look of it. I don't think I know that mapper and it's not easy to know how accurate it is or what the source might be, but the note attached makes it seem plausible:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/333259945/history

On the face of it, a GPX trace of a ground survey is probably a bit better than what's there, so we should take it if we can get it.

Schadenfreudia

mackerski wrote: »

On the face of it, a GPX trace of a ground survey is probably a bit better than what's there, so we should take it if we can get it.

Indeed, I notice the note says "approximate location to within 50m".

Mars Bar

What's this talk of 80kph on the N17? I'll have a ****ing giraffe if they reduce the speed.

kippy

Mars Bar wrote: »

What's this talk of 80kph on the N17? I'll have a ****ing giraffe if they reduce the speed.

They done that on some/most of the N roads that have had M roads run parallel to them. Parts of the N6 come to mind.

Kristopherus

kippy wrote: »

They done that on some/most of the N roads that have had M roads run parallel to them. Parts of the N6 come to mind.

And the N4 out as far as Kinnegad. Meanwhile the road from Clifden to Westport is 100kph:mad:

glineli

Mars Bar wrote: »

What's this talk of 80kph on the N17? I'll have a ****ing giraffe if they reduce the speed.

The N18 from ennis to gort has been reduced also

D Trent

glineli wrote: »

The N18 from ennis to gort has been reduced also

This stretch in particular has claimed a lot of lives and that is what it boils down to

Unfortunately the N17 has claimed a ridiculous amount of lives 😱😱

Mars Bar

glineli wrote: »

The N18 from ennis to gort has been reduced also

That's understandable in spots. The Crusheen to Gort road was/is awful.

The N17 is a fine road for 100kph apart from a few rough bends as you get closer to Tuam.

marno21

The N17 should be 80km/h to encourage as many people as possible to use it, the M17 isn't being built to be empty

Cookiemunster

Mars Bar wrote: »

What's this talk of 80kph on the N17? I'll have a ****ing giraffe if they reduce the speed.

When a motorway opens the old N road becomes and R road. The default speed limit for an R road is 80Kph. So when the N17 becomes the RXXX the speed limit will drop to 80kph. The local councils do have the authority to increase the limit to 100kph though and that's why some of the old N roads have a 100kph limit.

ItHurtsWhenIP

Cookiemunster wrote: »

When a motorway opens the old N road becomes and R road. The default speed limit for an R road is 80Kph. So when the N17 becomes the RXXX the speed limit will drop to 80kph. The local councils do have the authority to increase the limit to 100kph though and that's why some of the old N roads have a 100kph limit.

When they changed the speed limit rules recently (to bring back the old national speed limit sign - with the black slash in a black circle) I seem to remember hearing something along the lines of "If a road is wider than x meters (it was maybe 6 or 8), then the speed limit of 100KMH applies, otherwise it is 80KMH".

I was thinking this is great as I recently drove the old N7 from Nenagh to Birdhill and it's this massive wide chunk of tarmac, that's almost dead straight for KMs on end, but your stuck doing 80KMH on a really quiet road.

Now this may not necessarily be the case of the old N18 (it is pretty twisty in spots), but can anybody confirm if I heard correctly?

Mars Bar

Cookiemunster wrote: »

When a motorway opens the old N road becomes and R road. The default speed limit for an R road is 80Kph. So when the N17 becomes the RXXX the speed limit will drop to 80kph. The local councils do have the authority to increase the limit to 100kph though and that's why some of the old N roads have a 100kph limit.

"And I wish I was on the RXXX, stone walls and the grass is green..." isn't going to have quite the same ring to it.

Anyway, a friend of mine on Facebook put up this pic from the Ballygaddy railway line.

dloob

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

When they changed the speed limit rules recently (to bring back the old national speed limit sign - with the black slash in a black circle) I seem to remember hearing something along the lines of "If a road is wider than x meters (it was maybe 6 or 8), then the speed limit of 100KMH applies, otherwise it is 80KMH".

I was thinking this is great as I recently drove the old N7 from Nenagh to Birdhill and it's this massive wide chunk of tarmac, that's almost dead straight for KMs on end, but your stuck doing 80KMH on a really quiet road.

Now this may not necessarily be the case of the old N18 (it is pretty twisty in spots), but can anybody confirm if I heard correctly?

Not sure where you heard that.
The RSA indicates the new/old national limit sign equals 80kph

motorists must use their own judgement and choose an appropriate speed for the conditions and environment, but must never exceed 80kmh
http://rsa.ie/RSA/Road-Safety/Campaigns/Current-road-safety-campaigns/Rural-Speed-Limits/

dloob

dloob wrote: »

Not sure where you heard that.
The RSA indicates the new/old national limit sign equals 80kph

Classic Irish solution, a "no limits" sign with a limit! :rolleyes:

Will confuse the Europeans again.

Geogregor

Deleted User wrote: »

Classic Irish solution, a "no limits" sign with a limit! :rolleyes:

Will confuse the Europeans again.

Well, British do the same, don't they

Still, I prefer clear numerical limit. It shouts to the driver "THIS IS THE LIMIT STUPID". These new signs are more ambiguous.

BTW, nice to see the first structures taking shape. I'm really looking forward to see construction of the junction with the M6. Quite a few bridges going to rise there

Geogregor

Geogregor wrote: »

Well, British do the same, don't they

Still, I prefer clear numerical limit. It shouts to the driver "THIS IS THE LIMIT STUPID". These new signs are more ambiguous.

BTW, nice to see the first structures taking shape. I'm really looking forward to see construction of the junction with the M6. Quite a few bridges going to rise there

No, the NSL sign (the one with the single black diagonal) specifically means the end of a local speed restriction and the national speed limit for the road type now applies.