Are Upright Rows Really That Bad?

Roper

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Roper

Transform wrote: »

The vast majority of people that i work with have got poor shoulder function to begin with and i would argue that the majority of all gym goers never need to do a single upright row or frontal raise as those areas that are hit are sooooo over worked to begin with.

I agree about raises, but just to be clear I referred to bent over rows earlier which seems to have been ignored

i throw lateral raises into some programs but with the amount most people hit their chest with there really is no need for them especially when most people can't even do chins to begin with or any significant back work to help pull shoulders back and get the shoulders to function properly

Would you not agree that certain row/raise exercises can aid shoulder function and increase back strength if the goal is to do pull ups?

Transform

all types of rows are helpful and its not like front raises are terrible either - kettlebell swings involve shoulder raises and i love them so lets not throw the baby out with the bath water.

The main thing is its really client specific - you can't say whats right or wrong for someone when they are not standing in front of me and i can assess them.

Overall, most people need to do more exercises like seated rows, scap press ups etc (as roper mentioned) and less direct shoulder work due to the reasons discussed before. And funny enough they help to improve shoulder health, make you bench and clean more and get your key in her door!

MAybe i got that last one wrong

d'Oracle

Hanley wrote: »

Where's the key hole to your front door at home? Mine's around shoulder height... care to guess how i get the key there?

Im more of a curl and press man.