guess what it is - two new ones

harmoniums

Just put together a new semi auto from a barreled action I came across.
Took me forever to find all the parts, can you guess what it is?

rrpc

Unbelievably ugly?

cavan shooter

lets play 20 questions.....
Is it European i.e not including old USSR

José Alaninho

Tokarev SVT-40

harmoniums

cavan shooter wrote: »

lets play 20 questions.....
Is it European i.e not including old USSR

The action is considered northern european.
But no this rifle was made outside europe

harmoniums

José Alaninho wrote: »

Tokarev SVT-40

nope, its not russian!

ak51535

ehh is it a ruger .22 or something along those lines?
http://www.granitegrok.com/pix/ruger_mini_14.jpg

CJhaughey

Hakim 7.92 x 57, derived from the L42 Ljungman.

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CJhaughey wrote: »

Hakim 7.92 x 57, derived from the L42 Ljungman.

Correct!

CJhaughey

Have you put any rounds through it? Nice piece of history, probably used in the last unpleasantness in the Suez?

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CJhaughey wrote: »

Have you put any rounds through it? Nice piece of history, probably used in the last unpleasantness in the Suez?

Haven't shot it yet.
They are meant to be pigs for blowing gas back at you (Direct Impingment Action)
The trigger is very crisp, and they have a reputation to shoot <1moa

cavan shooter

CJhaughey wrote: »

Hakim 7.92 x 57, derived from the L42 Ljungman.

aaaaaaaa was about to say that:D:D

harmoniums

whats this one?

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deeksofdoom

harmoniums wrote: »

whats this one?

French MAS rifle

harmoniums wrote: »

That's the predecessor to the FN FAL

CJhaughey

Bottom looks like a FN49 from the pic.
Top one I can't really see but it looks German

harmoniums

CJhaughey wrote: »

Bottom looks like a FN49 from the pic.
Top one I can't really see but it looks German

FN49, correct
The top bolt action one is not a MAS36 (notice the continuous stock)
Its a weird one, a restocked re-barreled ancient rifle used to beat back a "bear"

meathstevie

Belgian customs and Gendarmerie used the FN49 for a good while if I'm not mistaken.

civdef

Finnish Moisin Nagant?

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civdef wrote: »

Finnish Moisin Nagant?

Ding ding !!! correct sir
This one is built on a mosin nagant receiver from 1896, was captured during the winter war of 1940 and was tuned/re-barreled/re-stocked by the Finns


now, what do you think this is?

Traumadoc

Schmidt-rubin?

civdef

Schmidt Rubin 1911?

harmoniums

Traumadoc wrote: »

Schmidt-rubin?

Correct, its a walnut K31

harmoniums

heres another odd ball one
can you guess it?

Meyer

Looks like a Rasheed carbine, Egyptian I think ?

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Meyer wrote: »

Looks like a Rasheed carbine, Egyptian I think ?

Correct, most people mistake it for an SKS variant, but its completely different.
Its a Scaled down Ljungman/Hakim action for 762x39mm

harmoniums

whats this one?



name the country of origin for this one

harmoniums

no this one?




whats the one in the middle?

Grizzly 45

Its a French MAS somthing or other??:o
previous pic a Martini Henry falling block action.Orginally made in Englad.But possibly Afghanistan,Pakistan,India as well ???

rowa

any 303 martini henrys floating about ?

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rowa wrote: »

any 303 martini henrys floating about ?

its an easy rebarrel, the threads are the same on the 450/577 barrel shank and the 303.
The extractor needs to be built up to grab the skinner cartridge and the fireing pin hole is tapped and a sleeve inserted to allow a smaller diameter pin.

cruisedub1

FN MODEL 49

cruisedub1

F.N MODEL 49 , ADAPTED BY THE ARGENTINE NAVY TO 7.62 X 51 NATO

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cruisedub1 wrote: »

F.N MODEL 49 , ADAPTED BY THE ARGENTINE NAVY TO 7.62 X 51 NATO

Very nicely spotted, theres only 7000 in the world

cruisedub1

WAS GOING TO BUY ONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO BUT THE VENDOR WANTED $850 WHICH I DIDNT HAVE . BOUGHT AN EGYPTIAN MODEL 49 INSTEAD .

harmoniums

cruisedub1 wrote: »

WAS GOING TO BUY ONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO BUT THE VENDOR WANTED $850 WHICH I DIDNT HAVE . BOUGHT AN EGYPTIAN MODEL 49 INSTEAD .

Are you in the US?

cruisedub1

harmoniums wrote: »

Are you in the US?

YES, BEEN HERE FOR TWENTY YEARS .

Dr_Teeth

harmoniums wrote: »

no this one?

An M1 Garand?

Grizzly 45

Nope not a Garand.Layout is wrong,and the internal components arent finished off well enough.Tool marks all over the place.
Which would say somthing Russkie or Chinese
I'd guess an SKS or a Norinco type M14 copy??

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Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Nope not a Garand.Layout is wrong,and the internal components arent finished off well enough.Tool marks all over the place.
Which would say somthing Russkie or Chinese
I'd guess an SKS or a Norinco type M14 copy??

Its actually a mid war springfield M1 garand.

Grizzly 45

You live and learn.:D Wouldnt have belived that the internals were that unfinished even in the war years.:eek:

Tackleberrywho

Does anybody know what this is?

And I do not know the answer before you ask!
Bayonet Circa 1900 Unknown after that.

Designed to fit a rifle or be worn in a scabbard.
Goes down past the knee when worn.

Looks very like many but subtly different than any I have seen!


And I can't make photo smaller, new to posting pics!

Cass

It is a German "Seitengewehr" or "Protection arm".

The were produced by Erfurt in 1902 and came in about 4 different variations. The one you have pictured is the "Gotavapen" M1898 N.A. designed ( and named) for use with the 1914 Mauser M1898.



Of course if this is all wrong then i'm going to look and sound a right t*t.:D

Tackleberrywho

ezridax wrote: »

It is a German "Seitengewehr" or "Protection arm".

The were produced by Erfurt in 1902 and came in about 4 different variations. The one you have pictured is the "Gotavapen" M1898 N.A. designed ( and named) for use with the 1914 Mauser M1898.



Of course if this is all wrong then i'm going to look and sound a right t*t.:D

I was told NO by the Classic rifle shooters!

It has a crown stamped on it so it's from a country with a Monarch.

I asked all the Buff's one day and brought it a long. 20 people looked at it, compared it and said not German! lol

Points to note are the angle of the Hilt, and the shape of the blade
Or so I have been told

Tackleberrywho

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I was told NO by the Classic rifle shooters!

It has a crown stamped on it so it's from a country with a Monarch.

I asked all the Buff's one day and brought it a long. 20 people looked at it, compared it and said not German! lol

Points to note are the angle of the Hilt, and the shape of the blade
Or so I have been told

Close but no Cigar Ezridax

Cass

Stone me. If its not this then its a brother or sister of it.



Note the similar striaght back of the hilt, long straight blade that "bulges" out towards the end of the blade. The hilt itself has the same stud/nut fixture at the base of it.

Look either side of the top of the hilt. There should be a number etched into it. This was usually done to identify the regiment number the person weilding it belonged to.

By the way, Germany had a Monarchy, from 1871 to 1918.................so.

Tackleberrywho

ezridax wrote: »

Stone me. If its not this then its a brother or sister of it.



Note the similar striaght back of the hilt, long straight blade that "bulges" out towards the end of the blade. The hilt itself has the same stud/nut fixture at the base of it.

Look either side of the top of the hilt. There should be a number etched into it. This was usually done to identify the regiment number the person weilding it belonged to.

By the way, Germany had a Monarchy, from 1871 to 1918.................so.

Well Done Sir!

You have out done the so called Experts

Cass

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Well Done Sir!

You have out done the so called Experts

Thank you, thank you.

I would like to thank God, through him all things are possible. Then there is my manager, and not to forget Red Bull, google and WAY too much time.






(BTW i haven't gone mad, just ripping this p**s out of an academy award speech)

dCorbus

Hmmmm.....interesting......;)

If you take a close look at the photo posted by tackleberry you can make out the date "April 9, 1917" scratched into the handle.

Now, here's the joy of the 'tinterweb:

1. That's the date on which the Battle of Vimy Ridge commenced.
2. One of the German Imperial divisions which saw action in that battle was the the 16th Bavarian Infantry Division
3. Anyone want to hazard a guess at which slightly infamous german / austrian served in that division for a time during WW1?

The plot thickens.....it's a conspiracy bayonet!:D:rolleyes:

Tackleberrywho

dCorbus wrote: »

Hmmmm.....interesting......;)

If you take a close look at the photo posted by tackleberry you can make out the date "April 9, 1917" scratched into the handle.

Now, here's the joy of the 'tinterweb:

1. That's the date on which the Battle of Vimy Ridge commenced.
2. One of the German Imperial divisions which saw action in that battle was the the 16th Bavarian Infantry Division
3. Anyone want to hazard a guess at which slightly infamous german / austrian served in that division for a time during WW1?

The plot thickens.....it's a conspiracy bayonet!:D:rolleyes:

Well All I can say is God Bless your eye sight!
It might have a few stories to tell alright.

The pic I put up is of poor Quality as my phone's carl's Zeiss lens is not as good as a good Nikon cam.

I hope to buy a good cam this summer all things going well perhaps a Nikon D5000 and a 55-300mm lens Nikkor of course!

I'm so glad it was not English or commonwealth :D:D

kowloon

The 'Martini' actioned rifle looks like a Gahendra.