Pricewise & Wayne Bailey Tips Log

Boxfresh

Every day I will put €2 on the nose of each of the Pricewise Extra tips (including Tom Segal when available) and Wayne Baileys "Main Bet" tips for a few weeks to see if they'd really be worthwhile following them with some real cash. I will start of with a bank of €100 and see how far this will take me. I will use Betfair prices and I will do my best to add them here each morning as soon as I get them, I will then update the results in the evening.

Boxfresh

Starting Bank €100

Pricewise Extra
4.45 Southwell - Realt Na Mara @ 5.5 €2
8.30 Thirsk - Glamorous Spirit @ 4.3 €2

Wayne Bailey
8.20 Windsor -Point of Light @ 1.68 €2

Bank €94

Bluetonic

Not too sure of the significance of seeing if they'd really be worthwhile following them with some real cash. You only have to look at the past performance of each, no matter how limited the history is to see if following them is worthwhile. Putting €2, €2m or absolutely nothing on as a stake has exactly the same effect for what you want.

How and ever if you are going to do so it might help to distinguish between your two sources when posting.

Apple Orange

Surely you should put €2 per point advised too, to truly reflect the advice?!

Bluetonic

Apple Orange wrote: »

Surely you should put €2 per point advised too, to truly reflect the advice?!

At least one of the tipsters doesn't advise point stakes.

Boxfresh

Apple Orange wrote: »

Surely you should put €2 per point advised too, to truly reflect the advice?!

The only problem with that is that I don't know what advice the pricewise extra tips give. All I have access too is the name of the horses from mike65's thread. All of wayne bailey's tips are 1pt to win.
It's all a bit of fun really!

ghosttown

Boxfresh, go for it. I for one will be interested to see how long the €100 lasts, hopefully you even get to month end in profit. Good luck

ghosttown

Good start, nice win Realt na Mara.:)

wireless101

i say go for it, it will be interesting.

Also, where are you getting the PW-E tips from, did you subscribe?

mike65

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2055554218&goto=newpost

Boxfresh

wireless101 wrote: »

i say go for it, it will be interesting.

Also, where are you getting the PW-E tips from, did you subscribe?

No, I didn't subscribe. Thanks to Mike and his detective work, we don't need to subscribe.

It'll be interesting to see how far this €100 will go

wireless101

mike65 wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2055554218&goto=newpost

In that thread you posted the PW-E results for july, are ye just using those results or what? I'm afraid I'm new to this so I don't really know what i'm talking about, so bear with me!

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
4.45 Southwell - Realt Na Mara @ 5.5 €2 Win €11.00
8.30 Thirsk - Glamorous Spirit @ 4.3 €2 Lose

Wayne Bailey
8.20 Windsor -Point of Light @ 1.68 €2 Win €3.34

Bank €108.34

dsmythy

Nice combo between the high hit lower prices and low hit higher prices.

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
5.25 Nottingham - Crazy Bold @ 4.7 €2
7.25 Nottingham - Maol Chinn Tire @ 3.75 €2

Wayne Bailey
No Main Bets today

Bank €104.34

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
5.25 Nottingham - Crazy Bold @ 4.7 €2 Lose
7.25 Nottingham - Maoi Chinn Tire @ 3.75 €2 Lose

Wayne Bailey
No Main Bets today

Bank €104.34

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
6.50 Gowran Park - Drunken Sailor @ 5.2 €2

Wayne Bailey

8.20 Salisbury - Empress of France (Non Runner)

Bank €102.34

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
6.50 Gowran Park - Drunken Sailor @ 5.2 €2 Win €10.40

Wayne Bailey
8.20 Salisbury - Empress of France (Non Runner)

Bank €112.32

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
4.15 Salisbury - Khateeb @ 6.4
6.55 Leopardstown - Rose Hip @ 6.2

Wayne Bailey
1.55 Salisbury - Joe Packet @ 4.9
2.50 Sandown - Waseet @ 1.48
3.05 Salisbury - Ermine and Velvet @ 3.05
4.00 Sandown - Mezenah @ 1.79
5.50 Chepstow - Vanishing Grey @ 1.96

All €2 singles

Bank €98.34

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
4.15 Salisbury - Khateeb @ 6.4 Lose
6.55 Leopardstown - Rose Hip @ 6.2 Lose

Wayne Bailey
1.55 Salisbury - Joe Packet @ 4.9 Lose
2.50 Sandown - Waseet @ 1.48 Win €2.81
3.05 Salisbury - Ermine and Velvet @ 3.05 Lose
4.00 Sandown - Mezenah @ 1.79 Win €3.40
5.50 Chepstow - Vanishing Grey @ 1.96 Lose

All €2 singles

Bank €104.55

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
3.45 Nottingham - Punch Drunk @ 13.5
5.10 Newbury - Potentiale @ 5.1

Wayne Bailey
1.20 Newbury - Pounced @ 1.87
6.15 Catterick - Gold Fix @ 1.84
7.55 Catterick - Tournedo @ 1.86

All €2 singles

Bank €94.55

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
3.45 Nottingham - Punch Drunk @ 13.5 2nd
5.10 Newbury - Potentiale @ 5.1 3rd

Wayne Bailey
1.20 Newbury - Pounced @ 1.87 Win €3.55
6.15 Catterick - Gold Fix @ 1.84 Win €3.50
7.55 Catterick - Tournedo @ 1.86 Lose

Bank €101.60

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
5.35 Dundalk - Whitcombe Minister @ 10
3.35 Bangor - Ecole Dart @ 6.6

Wayne Bailey
7.00 Lingfield - Obe Gold @ 1.96

Tom Segal (Pricewise)
3.55 Ripon - Jimmy Styles @ 19.5 to win
3.55 Ripon - Jimmy Styles @ 5.5 to place
3.55 Ripon - Advanced @ 14 to win
3.55 Ripon - Advanced @ 4.3 to place


All €2 singles

Bank €87.60

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
5.35 Dundalk - Whitcombe Minister @ 10 Lose
3.35 Bangor - Ecole Dart @ 6.6 Lose

Wayne Bailey
7.00 Lingfield - Obe Gold @ 1.96 Lose

Tom Segal (Pricewise)
3.55 Ripon - Jimmy Styles @ 19.5 to win Lose 3rd
3.55 Ripon - Jimmy Styles @ 5.5 to place Win €10.22
3.55 Ripon - Advanced @ 14 to win Lose 2nd
3.55 Ripon - Advanced @ 4.3 to place Win €8.04

Bank €105.86

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra

4.10 Pont - Koalac @ 7
5.00 Bath - Triple Dream @ 5.8

Wayne Bailey
2.10 Pont - Our Jonathan @ 1.55

All €2 singles

Bank €99.86

curious guy

if you had to do eachway bets how would your profit be just curious?

Boxfresh

curious guy wrote: »

if you had to do eachway bets how would your profit be just curious?

Hi, I'm not too sure. I never kept track of any prices for going each way

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
4.10 Pont - Koalac @ 7 Placed 2nd
5.00 Bath - Triple Dream @ 5.8 Win €11.12

Wayne Bailey
2.10 Pont - Our Jonathan @ 1.55 Win €2.95


Bank €113.93

Fromvert

I think you made a mistake putting €2 on a horse at 1.55 gives you a profit of €1.10 and a total return of €3.10.

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
7.20 Yarmouth - Kuanyao @ 3.9
7.50 Yarmouth - Any Given Moment @ 7.4

Wayne Bailey
No bets today

All €2 singles

Bank €109.93

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
7.20 Yarmouth - Kuanyao @ 3.9 Lose
7.50 Yarmouth - Any Given Moment @ 7.4 Non Runner

Wayne Bailey
No bets today

All €2 singles

Bank €111.93

argosy2006

do you only back to win,

Boxfresh

yeah, unless it's a longshot with odds of 12/1 or higher, i may do a place bet with it.

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
4.05 York - Excellent guest @ 7.8
5.10 Worc - John Charles @ 11.5
5.10 Worc - John Charles to place @ 3.45
8.00 Nott - Bollin Judith @ 2.7

Wayne Bailey
3.25 York - Sea the Stars @ 1.31
7.00 Nott - Atlaal @ 1.45

Tom Segal (Pricewise)
2.50 Jukebox Jury @ 7.2

All €2 singles

Bank €97.93

Apple Orange

You stole 30 cent from the pot

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
4.05 York - Excellent guest @ 7.8 Lose
5.10 Worc - John Charles @ 11.5 Lose
5.10 Worc - John Charles to place @ 3.45 Lose
8.00 Nott - Bollin Judith @ 2.7 Lose

Wayne Bailey
3.25 York - Sea the Stars @ 1.31 Win €2.49
7.00 Nott - Atlaal @ 1.45 Lose

Tom Segal (Pricewise)
2.50 Jukebox Jury @ 7.2 Lose

All €2 singles

Bank €100.42

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
4.05 York Singeur 4.7
4.25 Carlisle Wicked Wilma 9.2
8.10 Kempton Bel Cantor 9.2

Wayne Bailey
4.15 Ham Graceful Descent 1.38
5.05 Killar Dainty Steps 4.1
5.25 Ham Helieorbea 2.34

Tom Segal (Pricewise)
1.45 York Seeking the Buck 9.4
3.25 York Desert Sea 18
3.25 York Desert Sea to place 4.2
3.25 York Changing of the Guard 3.65

All €2 singles


Bank €80.42

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
4.05 York Singeur 4.7 Lose
4.25 Carlisle Wicked Wilma 9.2 Lose
8.10 Kempton Bel Cantor 9.2 Lose

Wayne Bailey
4.15 Ham Graceful Descent 1.38 Win €2.62
5.05 Killar Dainty Steps 4.1 Lose
5.25 Ham Helieorbea 2.34 Win €4.45

Tom Segal (Pricewise)
1.45 York Seeking the Buck 9.4 Lose
3.25 York Desert Sea 18 Lose
3.25 York Desert Sea to place 4.2 Lose
3.25 York Changing of the Guard 3.65 Lose 2nd

All €2 singles


Bank €87.49

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
2.15 York Gold Bubbles @ 12.5 to win and @ 3.35 to place
4.40 York Bahamian Babe @ 13 to win and @ 2.96 to place

Wayne Bailey
No bets today

Tom Segal (Pricewise)
2.50 York Lovelace 11.5
2.50 York Webbow 12

All €2 singles


Bank €75.49

Boxfresh

10 days in and I'm wondering is it really worth my while backing these horses? In fact, is it worth betting on horses at all?

mike65

Well if you bet Pricewise on the nose win only then possibly not. Webbow @ 12 placed would have doubled your e/w stake for example.

Apple Orange

Boxfresh wrote: »

10 days in and I'm wondering is it really worth my while backing these horses? In fact, is it worth betting on horses at all?

Well considering the bookies all rock up to the races in top of the range brand new cars I'd safe the only safe bet is that they always come out on top!!

Boxfresh

I'm going to give it a month, depending on the profit/loss of this month will tell me whether I'm wasting my money or not and I will then make my mind up whether to ever gamble again. This is the first time I've ever actually recorded my bets and it's just making me think.

Apple Orange

I find online accounts great for actually monitoring your bets. Even if you bet in the bookies too, your online account would generally speaking give an accurate enough idea of whether you're making money or not. Betfair records total deposits and total withdrawls over time, would almost guarantee that most punters have more total deposits!

Boxfresh

mike65 wrote: »

Well if you bet Pricewise on the nose win only then possibly not. Webbow @ 12 placed would have doubled your e/w stake for example.

Mike each way or not. I'm really starting to doubt -any- tipster out there. I've been following your thread for ages now, maybe they'll have a good month here and there but really in the long run I'm starting to wonder. Anything I did win on pricewise wouldn't be long going on some other horse or football match. Gambling maybe just isn't for me.

ghosttown

To me, it's got to be a hobby you enjoy, with some discipline, set yourself limits to what you'll bet, enjoy your winnings, share it with the other half, have a dinner out, book a night away, spend away from bookies. Having a bet on any sport makes it more enjoyable. I'm probably up on golf and down on other sports year to date, but i've had good days and good nights out as a result of it. And when I've lost, well it was money i allowed to lose anyway, same as someone paying for a round of golf or going over to a match. Moral is only bet what you can lose.....and try not give winnings back !!

mike65

Boxfresh,

PW and PW-E have been poor enough lately its true but in July it was +77 points if one point staked per tip. In June Mel Collier landed two doubles at about 50 or 60/1 each so if you has back them e/w and as a double you'd have been laughing. Patience seems to be the key.

Hugh Talyor on ATR as followed on the other thread by qc3 is doing very well, with 3 winners in the last 3 days at 20/1 22/1 and 10/1. Maybe you should add him into your mix.

Boxfresh

Apple Orange wrote: »

I would almost guarantee that most punters have more total deposits!

I would put my house on that
one

:pac:

Boxfresh

mike65 wrote: »

Hugh Talyor on ATR as followed on the other thread by qc3 is doing very well, with 3 winners in the last 3 days at 20/1 22/1 and 10/1. Maybe you should add him into your mix.

I'll keep going the way I am with pricewise and wayne's for now and we'll let that thread speak for itself and see how it'll get on after a month or so. Cheers Mike.

Boxfresh

Pricewise Extra
2.15 York Gold Bubbles @ 12.5 to win and @ 3.35 to place Lose
4.40 York Bahamian Babe @ 13 to win and @ 2.96 to place
Lose

Wayne Bailey
No bets today

Tom Segal (Pricewise)
2.50 York Lovelace 11.5
Lose
2.50 York Webbow 12
Lose 4th

All €2 singles

Bank €75.49

argosy2006

mike65 wrote: »

Boxfresh,

PW and PW-E have been poor enough lately its true but in July it was +77 points if one point staked per tip. In June Mel Collier landed two doubles at about 50 or 60/1 each so if you has back them e/w and as a double you'd have been laughing. Patience seems to be the key.

Hugh Talyor on ATR as followed on the other thread by qc3 is doing very well, with 3 winners in the last 3 days at 20/1 22/1 and 10/1. Maybe you should add him into your mix.

do you follow hugh taylor, yes he has been in great form this week, while pricewise has been in awful form,, but thats de way it goes,,,,
or do you back hugh taylors tips to?
i,m down 1500 since monday,so can see your point BOX,, but things have to turn round, i keep having to increase my bet as the losers rack up,,bets are in hundreds now