The SirToYou "dignified discussion" with anything to do with Macau

cooker3

corkie123 wrote: »

theres only one in cork as well the rest don't count or figure really only there owners play there :D:D

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ps 25 more to go keep them coming guys

Mentioning the bet should mean instant disqualfication.

Moro Man

westlife wrote: »

Have just seen this and and too lazy to read all the posts so if this question has already been asked then I apol........ This guy was refused entry into the cash league final (which he had qualified for) on the basis that he is employed by another casino.... So how did he get the hours up in the first place if he is not allowed play?

League was based on hours over a 16 week period. He hadn't started supplying the catering service ( he's not an employee ) until about 6 weeks ago.


Corkie do you need 100 posts or 100 responses for your bet to come up.

Nero Ceasar

The lack of comment from the Macau is astounding but maybe
you cant defend the undefendable.:mad:

mdiver

I'm expecting the reply of all all replies. They have had long enough to come up with something a bit special. I think they will have to spend 8k on a very good spin doctor.

D.C.C

They won't defend themselves because they probably just don't care....As said by Corkie123 they still have a thriving business and no real competition!!!

And the people who feel hard done by will continiue to play there.....

Now 8k is probably the high end of the estimate but even if was half that it is still daylight robbery...

And as for the barring of one guy who does the catering for the competition!!!It's a bad decision by the Macau and their management team/owners who are terrible and obviously to everyone have no real experience of running a casino...

they can't take any critics and in business you have to take and learn form the good and also the bad...

All in all they will continue to behave in this way untill they gain real competition or the best thing that will happen for players in Ireland will be when casino's are all legistlated and proper gaming laws are implemented....

Dave147

D.C.C wrote: »

They won't defend themselves because they probably just don't care....As said by Corkie123 they still have a thriving business and no real competition!!!

And the people who feel hard done by will continiue to play there.....

Now 8k is probably the high end of the estimate but even if was half that it is still daylight robbery...

And as for the barring of one guy who does the catering for the competition!!!It's a bad decision by the Macau and their management team/owners who are terrible and obviously to everyone have no real experience of running a casino...

they can't take any critics and in business you have to take and learn form the good and also the bad...

All in all they will continue to behave in this way untill they gain real competition or the best thing that will happen for players in Ireland will be when casino's are all legistlated and proper gaming laws are implemented....

Well in fairness, Corkie123 seems to be their spokesman, no better man for the job. I don't know anything about the league final money etc, all I know is that a friend of mine was mistreated and he's not happy about it, the real reason is due to the bad blood between the organisers of each Casino, they should've been the "bigger man" and allowed him to play.

I'd be the first to post up a good experience I had somewhere, so rather than be hypocritical I will do the same with a bad experience, be it mine or someone I know. I hate this lie down and take it mentality.

JP Poker

I'm not trying to take sides here.

I'm guessing that Ken is up to his eyes with the festival at the moment. It's hard to expect him to come on here and get into it during the festival as I'm sure he is doing his best to make the event run smoothly and that he gives all the players the attention they deserve at the event.

I'm sure Ken will be made aware of this thread and will come on here next week.

Moro Man

JP Poker wrote: »

I'm trying to take sides here.

I'm guessing that Ken is up to his eyes with the festival at the moment. It's hard to expect him to come on here and get into it during the festival as I'm sure he is doing his best to make the event runs smoothly and that he gives all the players the attention they deserve at the event.

I sure Ken will be made aware of this thread and will come on here next week.

To be honest this is a bit of a cop out.

I like Dave147 have no real interest in league finals etc, but feel that it is a disgrace to treat the person excluded from the League Final in such a manner.



To say that he is too busy is just crap. How long does it take to type a three line response. He's posting merrily away on his own thread.

Maybe so you from the poker organisers side can give us an opinion.


You are one of a number of poker organisers who ply your trade up and down the country.

1. Do you bar say CPT or Big Slick dealers from playing in your events?

2. You run qualifiers for events, what grounds would you use for refusing someone who has pre qualified for an event ( and just to compare like with like assume the seat is non transferrable and non refundable) the chance to play in it? And if you did would there be a refund?

3. How do you view people who would play in Competitor's ( in your area ) events?

4. Would someone who supplies a catering service to an event organised by the CPT be a threat to your business if he was allowed play in one of your
events?

Just Noticed You Quickly Got Back On The Fence By Adding The Word Not

JP Poker

Moro Man wrote: »

To be honest this is a bit of a cop out.


1. Do you bar say CPT or Big Slick dealers from playing in your events?

2. You run qualifiers for events, what grounds would you use for refusing someone who has pre qualified for an event ( and just to compare like with like assume the seat is non transferrable and non refundable) the chance to play in it?

3. How do you view people who would play in Competitor's ( in your area ) events?

4. Would someone who supplies a catering service to an event organised by the CPT be a threat to your business if he was allowed play in one of your events?

1. NO

2. I would only stop someone from playing if they were barred. If it was non transferrable & non-refundable. I would give the qualified person the option to take the cash.

3. I would be delighted that they decided to play at my game and would do my best to make them feel welcome in the hope that they would come back in the rear future.

4. No threat, he would allowed play.

Moro Man

JP Poker wrote: »

1. NO

2. I would only stop someone from playing if they were barred. If it was non transferrable & non-refundable. I would give the qualified person the option to take the cash.

3. I would be delighted that they decided to play at my game and would do my best to make them feel welcome in the hope that they would come back in the rear future.

4. No threat, he would allowed play.

Sane rational policies.

There you go Corkie 100 replies. The bets up

D.C.C

Moroman....

In all fairness you can't compare JP and the Macau.The Macau is a Casino,one base of customer's and he as a Poker company has a huge range of customer's all over Dublin on more than a few premises!!!

These 2 don't compare and for various reasons they shouldn't either...

The only companys you could compare them with is the Eglington in Galway,fitxpatrick's in Limerick and The sporting Emporium and the Fitzwilliam in Dublin.These are the among the best casino's in Ireland and should follow pretty much the same ethics....

And from what i know the above mentioned are a country mile ahead of the macau on ethics and treatment of punters.Now having being to festivals in the Macau they were awesome and i was treated excellently...But it's the regulars who seem to have problems and this isn't a new problem,it's been the same sounds coming out of Cork since the opening of the Club...

Moro Man

D.C.C wrote: »

Moroman....

In all fairness you can't compare JP and the Macau.The Macau is a Casino,one base of customer's and he as a Poker company has a huge range of customer's all over Dublin on more than a few premises!!!

These 2 don't compare and for various reasons they shouldn't either...

The only companys you could compare them with is the Eglington in Galway,fitxpatrick's in Limerick and The sporting Emporium and the Fitzwilliam in Dublin.These are the among the best casino's in Ireland and should follow pretty much the same ethics....

And from what i know the above mentioned are a country mile ahead of the macau on ethics and treatment of punters.Now having being to festivals in the Macau they were awesome and i was treated excellently...But it's the regulars who seem to have problems and this isn't a new problem,it's been the same sounds coming out of Cork since the opening of the Club...

I know its not like for like, but seeing as there is no response from them, and JP ( albeit briefly ) was taking sides I just thought I'd ask a few basic policy questions. . Running Qualifiers for tournaments at a later date is his bread and butter and there is enough similarities between qualifying for a league final and winning a seat for a future event so it could be relevant to see what his view is without getting to caught up in it of the situation at hand.

D.C.C

Yeah you want someone to answer your question...I understand that!!!We all know if it is true what's been said then there is no question if it's wrong....That's obvious to everyone to see!!!!

The wrongs and rights aren't the question!The question is!Is it true?And if it is why????

mdiver

Has Ken ever played in a casino in Ireland?

gormand

mdiver wrote: »

Has Ken ever played in a casino in Ireland?

ive seen him play satellites in his own if that counts

gormand

D.C.C wrote: »

Now 8k is probably the high end of the estimate but even if was half that it is still daylight robbery...

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MACAU LEAGUE 09:
Daily Prizepools for April: 800, 910, 2250, 2580, 1200, 1080, 945, 2050, 2580, 1500, 4000, 680, 840, 2500, 1800, 1800, 1400, 2550, 1860 TOTAL = 33325
Daily Prizepools for May: 4700, 1720, 840, 2400, 2200, 1700, 4100, 1160, 840, 2150, 1440, 1500, 1280, 1015, 2200, 2220, 1700, 4200, 840, 455, 1900, 1500, 850, 1040, 455, 1450 TOTAL = 45835
Daily Prizepools for June: 1620, 1000, 3100, 840, 700, 1500, 1140, 1700, 1400, 1500, 1620, 1400, 3800, 720, 490, 1450, 1440, 1350, 920, 1015, 1300, 1800 TOTAL = 31805
Daily Prizepools for July: 1500, 3000, 1400, 945, 2200, 1800, 1700, 4400, 1120, 665, 1800, 1320, 1550, 2800, 960, 1260, 2200, 2600, 1120, 875, 1400, 1440, 2400, AUG 1st 960,2nd 840,2nd 1750 TOTAL = 44005
ACCUMALATED GRAND TOTAL = 154 970 10 %= 15497 of which makes up the prizepool for the league final AWARDED PRIZEPOOL 7000

JP Poker

Moro Man wrote: »

Just Noticed You Quickly Got Back On The Fence By Adding The Word Not

I'd just like to point out that I was never on the fence. I actually meant to to write that

"I'm not trying to take sides here" but managed to leave out the word "not".

Christine read my post and noticed that I'd make a mistake.

Moro Man

I must apologise, after consulting with a few people who have better memories than myself I must own up to a glaring distortion of the facts on my part.

The Jackpot that the lucky one time punter won while waiting for his lift was in fact a few hundred € shy of


€80,000 :eek::eek::eek:

Apologisies for giving the wrong impression:o:o

pokerface_me

Moro Man wrote: »

I must apologise, after consulting with a few people who have better memories than myself I must own up to a glaring distortion of the facts on my part.

The Jackpot that the lucky one time punter won while waiting for his lift was in fact a few hundred € shy of


€80,000 :eek::eek::eek:

Apologisies for giving the wrong impression:o:o

Shocking stuff, its criminal whats going on down there and an absolute disgrace that boards.ie let them advertise there tourneys here.

Lplated

gormand wrote: »

MACAU LEAGUE 09:
Daily Prizepools for April: 800, 910, 2250, 2580, 1200, 1080, 945, 2050, 2580, 1500, 4000, 680, 840, 2500, 1800, 1800, 1400, 2550, 1860 TOTAL = 33325
Daily Prizepools for May: 4700, 1720, 840, 2400, 2200, 1700, 4100, 1160, 840, 2150, 1440, 1500, 1280, 1015, 2200, 2220, 1700, 4200, 840, 455, 1900, 1500, 850, 1040, 455, 1450 TOTAL = 45835
Daily Prizepools for June: 1620, 1000, 3100, 840, 700, 1500, 1140, 1700, 1400, 1500, 1620, 1400, 3800, 720, 490, 1450, 1440, 1350, 920, 1015, 1300, 1800 TOTAL = 31805
Daily Prizepools for July: 1500, 3000, 1400, 945, 2200, 1800, 1700, 4400, 1120, 665, 1800, 1320, 1550, 2800, 960, 1260, 2200, 2600, 1120, 875, 1400, 1440, 2400, AUG 1st 960,2nd 840,2nd 1750 TOTAL = 44005
ACCUMALATED GRAND TOTAL = 154 970 10 %= 15497 of which makes up the prizepool for the league final AWARDED PRIZEPOOL 7000

Just as a matter of interest - where did these figures come from?

KevIRL

I'm going to lock this thread for now. We are having a dicussion in the poker mod forum about this, but I feel we must also allow Macau a right to reply. Considering that they are currently in the middle of their annual festival its best to allow some time for this.

As is the thread is starting to go around in circles, so I'm locking it for now, but because legitimate concerns have been raised leaving it viewable.

Ste05

The Macau were made aware of this thread and told they must respond to the allegations relating to the missing money from the Club League. To date they have chosen to ignore this, until such time as they explain the irregularity they are banned from using the Poker forum to promote their club/events and have been banned from the Tournament forum.

From here on, discussion/ promotion of the Macau and any events being held there is no longer allowed on the Poker forum.

Ste05