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Attitudes to casual sex.

  • 08-08-2009 3:11pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭


    So I was just over in PI and read something that got me thinking. We've had our attitudes to porn thread so what are our attitudes to one night stands and casual sex?

    Do you think sex should be strictly confined to a relationship or is this a thing of the past?

    Would you think less of someone who'd had many sexual relations and/or would it put you off dating them?

    Does it always end badly?

    Your thoughts, please :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    My attitude to casual sex is...

    Yes please.

    :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    I'm a fan of the casual sex, In my experience yes it usually does end badly if it's over a long period of time as usually someone get's emotionally attached 95% of the time it's the female but sometimes the male. If your having casual sex it should be no longer than a month or two IMO


    No it would not put me off a person, How hypocritical would that be?? Well I'm a big fan of casual sex...oh you are too?? Well in that case no I don't want you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭Lia_lia


    I personally can't do the casual sex thing.


    But I've no problem with anyone that does!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    Lia_lia wrote: »
    I personally can't do the casual sex thing.


    But I've no problem with anyone that does!

    I can't do it either, I'm way too needy! :(



    Doesn't stop me trying though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    I really depends on the person, there are lot's of people to whom sex is simply a release an orgasm, they don't need to have an emotional connection, and to me this is fine, as long as it's all practiced safe and out of public view.

    I've never had a one night stand, but that is because when the oppertunity arose I realised I didn't want to because I don't like the thought of non-calculated risk.

    I would consider Casual sex to just be sex, with someone you know, every now and then, I don't mind this, generally I will have an emotional connection to the person, but that could be just as friends w/ benefits so I am all for it as long as it is practiced in a safe and responsible manner out of public view.

    It definitely doesn't always end badly, if I had to guess I would think 50% of the time it does. But definitely not always.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    each to there own....

    can I have whipped cream a chocolate sauce to go with that :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    I'm a fan of the casual sex, In my experience yes it usually does end badly if it's over a long period of time as usually someone get's emotionally attached 95% of the time it's the female but sometimes the male. If your having casual sex it should be no longer than a month or two IMO


    No it would not put me off a person, How hypocritical would that be?? Well I'm a big fan of casual sex...oh you are too?? Well in that case no I don't want you.

    I think it can still end badly after a month or two. I don't really think a time limit helps. 'Cause a lot of the time, one person is saying "Yeah, casual sex, great", but thinking "I love you, please love me too!" or whatever. Agree with most of the time it being the female getting emotionally attached though, not sure about the exact statistic.


    I've never had a one night stand, but that is because when the oppertunity arose I realised I didn't want to because I don't like the thought of non-calculated risk.

    I'm probably going to make myself look really stupid here.... But what non-calculated risk?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    I really depends on the person, there are lot's of people to whom sex is simply a release an orgasm, they don't need to have an emotional connection, and to me this is fine, as long as it's all practiced safe and out of public view.


    That's *so* not what sex is for me though, that's not why I have casual sex.

    Intimacy keeps me sane - not sex, not orgams, intimacy. That connection with another person. When you join with someone in sex, share yourself, you're so vulnerable and open and just alive, and I love that. You're 100% yourself in that moment, with everything else stripped away. Sex for me is a return to who I really am. I love it, it's the best feeling in the world for me - so why in the name of god would I deny myself that?

    Why do I have *casual* sex though? Because it's easier to find than a boyfriend. If I had to choose, I'd choose relationship sex... but I'm not willing to forego sex altogether just because I'm not in one.

    That said, I haven't had any casual sex in about a year. Or, in fact, any sex at all for a couple of months now. And I am starting to go a bit mental :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    shellyboo wrote: »
    That's *so* not what sex is for me though, that's not why I have casual sex.

    Intimacy keeps me sane - not sex, not orgams, intimacy. That connection with another person. When you join with someone in sex, share yourself, you're so vulnerable and open and just alive, and I love that. You're 100% yourself in that moment, with everything else stripped away. Sex for me is a return to who I really am. I love it, it's the best feeling in the world for me - so why in the name of god would I deny myself that?

    Why do I have *casual* sex though? Because it's easier to find than a boyfriend. If I had to choose, I'd choose relationship sex... but I'm not willing to forego sex altogether just because I'm not in one.

    That said, I haven't had any casual sex in about a year. Or, in fact, any sex at all for a couple of months now. And I am starting to go a bit mental :P

    I love you for that honesty. :)

    Do you never feel bad after casual sex though? Like I dunno, you've just shared yourself with someone and they get up and leave you there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Novella wrote: »


    I'm probably going to make myself look really stupid here.... But what non-calculated risk?

    Me being the nervous kind of person I think of all the worst possible outcomes, the non-calculation is when I am drunk I won't of things like.

    No matter how careful we are She could get pregnant, would I be able to bear that with this person?
    I could get an STD.
    I am drunk, am I being careful enough.


    These things wouldn't run through my head if I was to have a one night stand when drunk. Which means I don't take the risk seriously, which is not me. (I am someone who prepares for everything.)

    I would think of these things if I was getting into a Friends with Benefits situation.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Novella wrote: »
    I think it can still end badly after a month or two. I don't really think a time limit helps. 'Cause a lot of the time, one person is saying "Yeah, casual sex, great", but thinking "I love you, please love me too!" or whatever. Agree with most of the time it being the female getting emotionally attached though, not sure about the exact statistic.




    That's what I meant by saying someone will get attached, though if I'm only with a person casually for a month or two and they were thinking that it would scare me.

    The statistic was just made up. Though I still belive far more women get emotionally attached, especially quicker than men do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    Novella wrote: »
    I love you for that honesty. :)

    Do you never feel bad after casual sex though? Like I dunno, you've just shared yourself with someone and they get up and leave you there?


    No, because it's not about them... it's about me :) Also, I choose to share myself, I know what I'm getting into before I do it. And honestly, I never feel bad after sex, ever. I feel chilled, relaxed, at peace, for days.

    I'm not a robot, like... of course sometimes I'd wish that a guy was interested in more than just casual sex, but if I find I want more from a certain guy, I'll walk away from sex with him. That's just mental torture.

    I wasn't always like this though, when I was young and foolish I did mistake sex for affection and it did hurt a lot when a guy just walked away. But now, at the wise old age of 25, I'm able to appreciate sex on its own merits, and separate that from the closeness of relationship sex as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Everyone for their own.

    A few years back I travelled half the world and had more than a few casual meetings, rarely one night things, they may have lasted slighty longer, maybe three days a week.Then it was time to move on, location wise, that is.

    For a finish I took a vow of celibacy because sex meant very little to me, I felt kinda numb (inside :p) about the whole thing and needed time to refresh it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    Me being the nervous kind of person I think of all the worst possible outcomes, the non-calculation is when I am drunk I won't of things like.

    No matter how careful we are She could get pregnant, would I be able to bear that with this person?
    I could get an STD.
    I am drunk, am I being careful enough.


    These things wouldn't run through my head if I was to have a one night stand when drunk. Which means I don't take the risk seriously, which is not me. (I am someone who prepares for everything.)

    I would think of these things if I was getting into a Friends with Benefits situation.

    Yeah, I get ya now :) I know exactly what you mean.
    That's what I meant by saying someone will get attached, though if I'm only with a person casually for a month or two and they were thinking that it would scare me.

    The statistic was just made up. Though I still belive far more women get emotionally attached, especially quicker than men do.

    Ok, the love thing was just an exaggeration but ya know, they could be hoping that you'll like them and it'll turn into something more. Plus even if they were thinking that, you wouldn't know unless they told you, which would be a bit weird.

    Yeah, it's definitely a woman thing. I dunno, maybe it's just me but I think women expect a lot more in return from a man. Like a man can have sex with someone and have completely forgotten about it by the time he has his clothes back on. But I think women need something more. (Not ALL women and not all the time!!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Novella wrote: »

    Yeah, it's definitely a woman thing. I dunno, maybe it's just me but I think women expect a lot more in return from a man. Like a man can have sex with someone and have completely forgotten about it by the time he has his clothes back on. But I think women need something more. (Not ALL women and not all the time!!)

    Not all men either really, I tend to be the type who starts liking people more than I should, rarely leads to problems but I feel bad about it myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    shellyboo wrote: »
    No, because it's not about them... it's about me :) Also, I choose to share myself, I know what I'm getting into before I do it. And honestly, I never feel bad after sex, ever. I feel chilled, relaxed, at peace, for days.

    I'm not a robot, like... of course sometimes I'd wish that a guy was interested in more than just casual sex, but if I find I want more from a certain guy, I'll walk away from sex with him. That's just mental torture.

    I wasn't always like this though, when I was young and foolish I did mistake sex for affection and it did hurt a lot when a guy just walked away. But now, at the wise old age of 25, I'm able to appreciate sex on its own merits, and separate that from the closeness of relationship sex as well.

    I hope I'm as smart as you in five years! :) Not that I mistake sex for affection or anything, I don't. I'm just not able to walk away, grrr. :mad:
    Everyone for their own.

    A few years back I travelled half the world and had more than a few casual meetings, rarely one night things, they may have lasted slighty longer, maybe three days a week.Then it was time to move on, location wise, that is.

    For a finish I took a vow of celibacy because sex meant very little to me, I felt kinda numb (inside :p) about the whole thing and needed time to refresh it.

    How long did the vow of celibacy last, if you don't mind me asking?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Novella wrote: »


    Ok, the love thing was just an exaggeration but ya know, they could be hoping that you'll like them and it'll turn into something more. Plus even if they were thinking that, you wouldn't know unless they told you, which would be a bit weird.

    Yeah, it's definitely a woman thing. I dunno, maybe it's just me but I think women expect a lot more in return from a man. Like a man can have sex with someone and have completely forgotten about it by the time he has his clothes back on. But I think women need something more. (Not ALL women and not all the time!!)
    A Bit weird? I'd be gone so fast Usain bolt would wonder WTF just ran by him!!

    Some guys can't seperate it though I will admit that, One of my best mates can't have casual sex without getting hung up on the girl and always gets crushed if it doesn't lead to anything, but I think he's just the minority.

    To me sex is fun, just like going out for a night with the lads, fighting or playing a computer game, It's fun and relaxes me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭MizzLolly


    Novella wrote: »
    'Cause a lot of the time, one person is saying "Yeah, casual sex, great", but thinking "I love you, please love me too!" or whatever.

    I agree with exactly what you said here. It's not for me personally.

    Though, if two single people are happy enough to do it then let them at it I say!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    Not all men either really, I tend to be the type who starts liking people more than I should, rarely leads to problems but I feel bad about it myself.

    I didn't mean to generalise all men, it's just a habit of mine :) I know that some men will obviously start to like the person more etc, I don't think you all have hearts of stone, didn't mean to imply it! I'm just bitter!

    Would you continue with casual sex though, if you were starting to become attached to the girl?
    A Bit weird? I'd be gone so fast Usain bolt would wonder WTF just ran by him!!

    Some guys can't seperate it though I will admit that, One of my best mates can't have casual sex without getting hung up on the girl and always gets crushed if it doesn't lead to anything, but I think he's just the minority.

    To me sex is fun, just like going out for a night with the lads, fighting or playing a computer game, It's fun and relaxes me.

    Sex is fun to most people, but that doesn't mean it can't cause problems!

    Anyway, on a brighter note, ever have a happy ending? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    one night stands it's pretty easy not to get emotionally attached, both parties know what they want and (generally) people don't get hurt.

    With FB situation that can often lead to one person gettin hurt. I had a FB a few years ago but I got to like him, we got on really well, and I usually stayed over, sometimes we'd hang out all the next day, just havin a laugh and watchin films. Also, some of the best sex I've ever had!!

    He was clear from the start he didn't want anything serious but I got a bit attached and after a few months we decided best to stop sleeping together.

    Since then maybe two or three times over 3 years we've slept together and there's been no hurt feelings. Unfortunately he moved away, cos damn I could do with some of that now!! :D

    I definitely don't think sex should be confined to a relationship, most of us have periods of bein single, imagine the frustration! That said, casual sex isn't for everyone, to each his own :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Novella wrote: »

    How long did the vow of celibacy last, if you don't mind me asking?

    About 4 months and six countrys later, i walked into a bar and saw a woman that really shook my world. from the first minute I saw her I feel deeply in lust. Raises my temperture when I think about her :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Novella wrote: »


    Sex is fun to most people, but that doesn't mean it can't cause problems!

    Anyway, on a brighter note, ever have a happy ending? :)
    Yes I have because I'm not one for relationships so there's never an ending reached :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Novella wrote: »
    I didn't mean to generalise all men, it's just a habit of mine :) I know that some men will obviously start to like the person more etc, I don't think you all have hearts of stone, didn't mean to imply it! I'm just bitter!

    Would you continue with casual sex though, if you were starting to become attached to the girl?

    It really depends, I sometimes trick myself into thinking that the girls likes me as more than a FB. I would like to think I would ask, but the truth is I wouldn't I would delude myself for a while. Eventually ask, and then if she said it's just sex, I would end it begrudgingly before I got really hurt.

    Bear in mind, I am only 20, I have only had 4 of these types of situations. and only once has the above happened because it lasted longer than the others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    About 4 months and six countrys later, i walked into a bar and saw a woman that really shook my world. from the first minute I saw her I feel deeply in lust. Raises my temperture when I think about her :o

    4 months, not bad! :)
    Yes I have because I'm not one for relationships so there's never an ending reached :)

    Well then, casual sex doesn't always end badly :)




    Do you think sex is better in a relationship? (Not just Raze_them_all, anybody!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    It really depends, I sometimes trick myself into thinking that the girls likes me as more than a FB. I would like to think I would ask, but the truth is I wouldn't I would delude myself for a while. Eventually ask, and then if she said it's just sex, I would end it begrudgingly before I got really hurt.

    Bear in mind, I am only 20, I have only had 4 of these types of situations. and only once has the above happened because it lasted longer than the others.

    I am the EXACT same.



    Except I wouldn't end it, I'd be like "Oh, good, that's what I was hoping you thought!"

    Oh, I'm only twenty too, just looking for opinions, amount of experience doesn't matter :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    Novella wrote: »
    4 months, not bad! :)



    Well then, casual sex doesn't always end badly :)




    Do you think sex is better in a relationship? (Not just Raze_them_all, anybody!)
    Interesting what people are saying here;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Novella wrote: »

    Do you think sex is better in a relationship? (Not just Raze_them_all, anybody!)

    Yes, sex is different with every partner, it takes time to learn what the other person likes, wants and it takes them time to learn their way around your body. the more practice with the same person, the better it gets. It also becomes more than a physical act.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 westaway


    Ok not preaching to anyone here this is just a personal opinion .....

    IMO casual sex is part of the mindset that Irish people now have due to moral vacumm created by the thankful demise of the Catholic church and replacement with American telivision/music/movies ( read through the rte guide count how many hours of american television there is on the Irish channels) The American moral gutter lowest common denominator lifestyle now influences people here more than anything our parents taught us. Casual sex is a manifestaion of ultra consumption capitalism where peoples only value is what you produce and what you consume and that includes one another.
    It dehumanises both sexes and advocates that men should consume as many women as possible to show strength or value and the whole feminist movement has been hijacked by profit seeking companies whose interest is to keep women consuming as much as possible and to abstain from commitment where they would pool their money with their partner and spend money on their family or children. There is a demogrpahic like this in japan known as parasaito shinguru which basically translates as parasite single.
    Ireland(and the world) needs a civic morality that supersedes religion and isn't rooted in superstitions of gods or other nonsense like that. A civic morality that ensures that the inherent good and value in each of us and our children is maximised.

    Again this is just my personal opinion


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Novella wrote: »
    4 months, not bad! :)



    Well then, casual sex doesn't always end badly :)




    Do you think sex is better in a relationship? (Not just Raze_them_all, anybody!)
    Ah but thats on my part for the most part I've ended the arrangement, I know I've hurt 2 people, but it wasn't bad to me because I wasn't the one hurt but they were, if that makes sense?

    I dunno sex can be better in a relationship or it can be better with a FB it all depends on the sexual chemistery between you and the other person(s)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Wait, are you saying Casual sex is immoral?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    Ah but thats on my part for the most part I've ended the arrangement, I know I've hurt 2 people, but it wasn't bad to me because I wasn't the one hurt but they were, if that makes sense?

    I dunno sex can be better in a relationship or it can be better with a FB it all depends on the sexual chemistery between you and the other person(s)

    Well it doesn't really make sense to me because if I hurt someone, in general, I would feel bad about it! Unless you mean you're saying it didn't end badly for you, it just ended badly for them because you ended it. I dunno.

    I think I'm just going to agree with another poster on this one who said it just depends on how much practice you get with a particular person, but I'll keep the chemistry thing in mind :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    westaway wrote: »
    Ok not preaching to anyone here this is just a personal opinion .....

    IMO casual sex is part of the mindset that Irish people now have due to moral vacumm created by the thankful demise of the Catholic church and replacement with American telivision/music/movies ( read through the rte guide count how many hours of american television there is on the Irish channels) The American moral gutter lowest common denominator lifestyle now influences people here more than anything our parents taught us. Casual sex is a manifestaion of ultra consumption capitalism where peoples only value is what you produce and what you consume and that includes one another.
    It dehumanises both sexes and advocates that men should consume as many women as possible to show strength or value and the whole feminist movement has been hijacked by profit seeking companies whose interest is to keep women consuming as much as possible and to abstain from commitment where they would pool their money with their partner and spend money on their family or children. There is a demogrpahic like this in japan known as parasaito shinguru which basically translates as parasite single.
    Ireland(and the world) needs a civic morality that supersedes religion and isn't rooted in superstitions of gods or other nonsense like that. A civic morality that ensures that the inherent good and value in each of us and our children is maximised.

    Again this is just my personal opinion
    I think I'm a pretty moral person tbh, Just because I have casual sex does not make me any less moral than someone who does not. Morality is a result of religion in my opinion which is ironic as structured religions throughout history have proving to be quite immoral.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    Novella wrote: »
    Well then, casual sex doesn't always end badly :)




    Do you think sex is better in a relationship? (Not just Raze_them_all, anybody!)

    DEfinitely doesn't always end badly! I had a FB relationship with a guy, we had some *great* times, and then it just fizzled out a little... no hard feelings, we both just moved on. Everyone was happy, would have no hesistation in revisiting that little scenario if asked!
    westaway wrote: »
    It dehumanises both sexes and advocates that men should consume as many women as possible to show strength or value...

    Where, in your world view, do I fit then? A single woman who enjoys sex? I'm certainly not just a commodity for men to consume.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    westaway wrote: »
    Ok not preaching to anyone here this is just a personal opinion .....

    It dehumanises both sexes and advocates that men should consume as many women as possible to show strength or value and the whole feminist movement has been hijacked by profit seeking companies whose interest is to keep women consuming as much as possible and to abstain from commitment where they would pool their money with their partner and spend money on their family or children.

    Again this is just my personal opinion

    I appreciate and respect your opinion, but how does casual sex dehumanise people? :confused: And how would a man be showing strength by being with many women?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    Oh, and relationship sex is always better than casual sex. For me, anyway. I actually wouldn't get into a relationship with someone if the sex wasn't great to begin with, and it usually only gets better from there :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Novella wrote: »
    Well it doesn't really make sense to me because if I hurt someone, in general, I would feel bad about it! Unless you mean you're saying it didn't end badly for you, it just ended badly for them because you ended it. I dunno.

    I think I'm just going to agree with another poster on this one who said it just depends on how much practice you get with a particular person, but I'll keep the chemistry thing in mind :)
    I think I mean I ended it as I don't easily get emotionally attached, something hich I always make clear, or else they end it/threaten to end it because they are attached and want more from me. What I'm trying to say is I'vce had happy endings for the most part because I end it before any emotional attachment can occur in either party.

    Do, sometimes when you hook up with a person and you just feel that spark, you know exactly what the other person wants, for the most part you need to figure this out over time, every now and then though it just clicks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    I think I mean I ended it as I don't easily get emotionally attached, something hich I always make clear, or else they end it/threaten to end it because they are attached and want more from me. What I'm trying to say is I'vce had happy endings for the most part because I end it before any emotional attachment can occur in either party.

    Do, sometimes when you hook up with a person and you just feel that spark, you know exactly what the other person wants, for the most part you need to figure this out over time, every now and then though it just clicks!

    Yeah, I know what you mean now.

    Ha, it now sounds like you are giving me advice! But I'm not interested in having casual sex, just decided it'd be good to have a discussion about it after seeing it in PI!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭lizzyvera


    Meh, each to their own.

    Westaway, I think you are exaggerating. How exactly is it immoral? I think if it doesn't harm other people, it's fine.

    I don't think I ever would, but if people choose to that's fine by me. I prefer if these things are in the open. I'm not convinced that people are less moral now, I think it was all just more hidden before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    Another day another caps lock pic needed
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    No not advice just saying from my personal experience is all :)

    Great, we're in AH mode :rolleyes:

    Do you ever regret it? (Not turning the thread into AH mode, the casual sex!)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    Novella wrote: »
    Great, we're in AH mode :rolleyes:

    Do you ever regret it? (Not turning the thread into AH mode, the casual sex!)


    I have in the past, but I don't think I would anymore... just because of the view I have of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Novella wrote: »
    Great, we're in AH mode :rolleyes:

    Do you ever regret it? (Not turning the thread into AH mode, the casual sex!)
    Nah not ah mode, same users first two posts were bigging up a parlour that he had "no accociation with yesterday" and I also posted a caps lock pic for him.

    Nah I don't think so, It's what I wanted at the time, so no regrets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 westaway


    Wait, are you saying Casual sex is immoral?

    If Irish people decided as part of their civic morality that it is or is'nt then so be it . But ask yourself when your teenage daughter or son start going out or having boyfriends or girlfriends would you be giving them condoms ??

    The consumption lifestyle is all about the self and not about others. Your pleasure, your enjoyment,your ipod, your laptop, your clothes etc

    I think I'm a pretty moral person tbh, Just because I have casual sex does not make me any less moral than someone who does not. Morality is a result of religion in my opinion which is ironic as structured religions throughout history have proving to be quite immoral.

    I agree religion is not the right way, e.g allah tells muslim how to live ,god tells christans how to live then one day during prayers allah tells muslim kill the christan and god tells christan kill the muslim .Who do we commit first:rolleyes:

    Morality is more than religion it is inherent in all of us.



    Where, in your world view, do I fit then? A single woman who enjoys sex? I'm certainly not just a commodity for men to consume.

    Exactly you are more than just a commodity and of course we all enjoy sex but what I am saying is that that our sexuality is all that defines us in this lowest common denominator society and I firmly believe there is much more to you,me and everyone than just this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    Do you think there is such a thing as a person having had sex with too many people?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    westaway wrote: »
    But ask yourself when your teenage daughter or son start going out or having boyfriends or girlfriends would you be giving them condoms ??

    I will, for one.

    westaway wrote: »
    Exactly you are more than just a commodity and of course we all enjoy sex but what I am saying is that that our sexuality is all that defines us in this lowest common denominator society and I firmly believe there is much more to you,me and everyone than just this.


    I don't believe that at all. My sexuality does not define me because I don't let it. In today's society, my idea of sexuality would have me branded a common slut by most people, but I am not viewed that way by anyone that I know of, or anyone that I'd care to know either.

    Sexuality is a huge part of my identity, but it doesn't define me either. It's simply part of the definition.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    westaway wrote: »
    If Irish people decided as part of their civic morality that it is or is'nt then so be it . But ask yourself when your teenage daughter or son start going out or having boyfriends or girlfriends would you be giving them condoms ??

    .
    My parents did when I was 15, they didn't delude themselves thinking I would wait for marraige and wanted me to stay safe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    westaway wrote: »
    But ask yourself when your teenage daughter or son start going out or having boyfriends or girlfriends would you be giving them condoms ??

    I would have loved if my mother was open with me about sex and I could have talked to her about it so yeah, I am definitely going to give condoms to my daughter and educate her about the risks because it would better to encourage her to have safe sex than to live in ignorance thinking she's a virgin until she comes home pregnant!!

    What do you suggest parents do?

    (Same goes for a son, except without him coming home pregnant, obviously!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    westaway wrote: »
    Wait, are you saying Casual sex is immoral?

    If Irish people decided as part of their civic morality that it is or is'nt then so be it . But ask yourself when your teenage daughter or son start going out or having boyfriends or girlfriends would you be giving them condoms ??

    I would prefer never to have children but if I do, the boy, yes I would give him condoms and educate him to not be stupid.

    The Girl, I would have a shotgun ready for any fella coming near her. (Sexist but necessary, I know how men think!!!:D)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 westaway


    Originally Posted by westaway viewpost.gif
    But ask yourself when your teenage daughter or son start going out or having boyfriends or girlfriends would you be giving them condoms ??

    Ok I phrased that wrongily I wasnt talking about safe sex; I was talking about your children having sex, would you be encouraging them? Would you look your 16 year old daughter in the eye and say its grand don't come home tonight since I don't mind having casual sex then I dont mind if you do.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    I wouldn't say I'd encourage her to have sex but I know I was having sex when I was sixteen so I would most definitely broach the subject with her as I wouldn't want her to experience many of things that I have.

    Oh, and I doubt I'd ever say to her "It's grand, don't come home tonight" 'cause I mean safety is always paramount but it's not so long ago I was sixteen myself, I know she'd be perfectly capable of lying to me, saying she was staying at a friends house or whatever so that's why I will be speaking to her about sex!


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