no wonder Ireland is in the toilet

shinzon

Was flicking channels and happened to land on Ireland AM, and i cant believe in this day and age in a recession with cutbacks job losses pension levies etc that there is a family in Ireland that is getting 3800 euro a month in benefits and believe this is not enough money for them, plasma screens in the house etc etc

It beggars belief that the welfare system is allowing them to get away with it while theres talks of cutting the dole for the ordinary joe soap

Shin

Long Onion

It seems like a lot but look at the number of kids they have, consider that a lot of this is rent allowance too - it's not as much as you would believe.

I personally believe that no-one should get money for nothing, there are plenty of schools etc to be built so let people work for the money but i do have an issue with media sensationalism.

amacachi

For a second I thought the title was meant to be self-referential.

AnonoBoy

shinzon wrote: »

no wonder this countries in the toilet

Agreed. Until we learn the difference between plural and singular nouns we're never going to fight our way out of this recession.

neil_hosey

thats well above the average wage.... about 43000 grand or something a year! with no tax!! Unless she has more than 8 kids, thats a ****ing disgrace.

There are families struggling on alot less than that.

fintonie

recession smession, a mans gota live

Dan Chipowski

In this country you have to be rich, or poor.

The normal Joes in the middle get screwed.

Long Onion

neil_hosey wrote: »

thats well above the average wage.... about 43000 grand or something a year! with no tax!! Unless she has more than 8 kids, thats a ****ing disgrace.

There are families struggling on alot less than that.

I think they do have 8 kids.

markesmith

Why do poor spellers have the most reactionary opinions?

I'd love to see a study with some empirical data on this.

That said, the Revenue system does need to be overhauled. But don't get your opinions from Ireland AM, it's a really poor show.

DamoDLK

Thats over 45000 in benefits... thats where the bloody problem is with the country! If the parents are willing to have that many kids they should be fu*kin made look after them themselves.. plasma screens indeed.

fintonie

theres a wonan beside me got 22 kids wonder how much she gets, they knocked three houses into one for her but that still only gives them 10 bedrooms, before you ask there are three sets of triplets and three sets of twins.

AnonoBoy

fintonie wrote: »

theres a wonan beside me got 22 kids wonder how much she gets, they knocked three houses into one for her but that still only gives them 10 bedrooms, before you ask there are three sets of triplets and three sets of twins.

With that many kids she'd need an extension onto her extension until the house goes around in a circle.

markok84

fintonie wrote: »

before you ask there are three sets of triplets and three sets of twins.

thats 15 children

Gillo

fintonie wrote: »

theres a wonan beside me got 22 kids wonder how much she gets, they knocked three houses into one for her but that still only gives them 10 bedrooms, before you ask there are three sets of triplets and three sets of twins.

She's not the old one who lives in a shoe???

DamoDLK

markok84 wrote: »

thats 15 children

inter alia

markok84

DamoDLK wrote: »

inter alia

Ya I went interailing last summer, mighty craic.

happyfriday

fintonie wrote: »

theres a wonan beside me got 22 kids wonder how much she gets, they knocked three houses into one for her but that still only gives them 10 bedrooms, before you ask there are three sets of triplets and three sets of twins.

Bloody hell, how could a person keep track?? I mean 22 kids, my dad has problems getting my name right and there is only 3 of us. That's insane!!

therecklessone

fintonie wrote: »

theres a wonan beside me got 22 kids wonder how much she gets, they knocked three houses into one for her but that still only gives them 10 bedrooms, before you ask there are three sets of triplets and three sets of twins.

You think she might have given up at oh say...the 2nd set of triplets?

fintonie

markok84 wrote: »

thats 15 children

the rest were singles;)

Snakeblood

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Agreed. Until we learn the difference between plural and singular nouns we're never going to fight our way out of this recession.

I miss full stops.

fintonie

therecklessone wrote: »

You think she might have given up at oh say...the 2nd set of triplets?

some people just love kids:eek:

I think she holds some sort of record she was on tv at some stage, a big tv of course.

therecklessone

fintonie wrote: »

some people just love kids:eek:

If she's able to pay her way she can have 122 for all I care.

If we're paying her way then the word for the day is sterilised.

Expresso Bongo

AnonoBoy wrote: »

With that many kids she'd need an extension onto her extension until the house goes around in a circle.

Yeah it's not a great accomodation solution but you should have seen the shoe they were living in beforehand!

fintonie

therecklessone wrote: »

If she's able to pay her way she can have 122 for all I care.

If we're paying her way then the word for the day is sterilised.

as far as I know they get the oul cloth on the face regular nuff.

DamoDLK

markok84 wrote: »

Ya I went interailing last summer, mighty craic.

lol! smart arse!!:D

dysfunct

fintonie wrote: »

theres a wonan beside me got 22 kids....

Ah for feck sake people, its a vagina not a clown car!

zGeek

mad statement. :eek:

fintonie

dysfunct wrote: »

Ah for feck sake people, its a vagina not a clown car!

lol

KINGVictor

shinzon wrote: »

Was flicking channels and happened to land on Ireland AM, and i cant believe in this day and age in a recession with cutbacks job losses pension levies etc that there is a family in Ireland that is getting 3800 euro a month in benefits and believe this is not enough money for them, plasma screens in the house etc etc

It beggars belief that the welfare system is allowing them to get away with it while theres talks of cutting the dole for the ordinary joe soap

Shin

For someone complaining about unemployed people.
I would be quite interested in why you were at home at that time of the day-considering it is the first working day of the week.

zGeek

KINGVictor wrote: »

For someone complaining about unemployed people.
I would be quite interested in why you were at home at that time of the day-considering it is the first working day of the week.

he's a low-life? :rolleyes:
I would also be intrigued to hear why he was doing nothing all day.

JerryHandbag

22 kids eh? 2 soccer teams. You think she could've popped out a few more to fill the subs bench?! Pfffttt!

Mr.Pong

Tthat family is no worse than the government and the rich hob-nobs taking money they don't need. if you've got 8 kids it's not exactly easy to find work anyway.

RonMexico

"The tears fall down Danielle Harte's face as she sits opposite her 50in Plasma TV screen. 'Sometimes I think I was put on this earth to suffer,' she says, her husband Ger nodding quietly in agreement.

To most it might seem as if Ger, 33, and Danielle, 31, have done a pretty good job. After all, they and their six children live in an eight-bedroom, €440,000 detached house in picturesque Ardnacrusha, Co. Clare. Not bad for a couple living entirely on welfare.

Danielle has never worked outside the home. Ger gave up his €420-a-week job in a cash and carry more than four years ago, because he figured he'd get more money in welfare benefits. He was right. Every month they take home approximately €3,800, courtesy of the taxpayer.

'We get €480 a week in dole for the eight of us; about €800 a month in rent allowance, and then child benefit of €1,144. That's what we have to live on,' Danielle complains.

Ger adds: 'I was offered a job but if I took it we wouldn't get the rent allowance, so it's not worth my while.

Even in the boom times, Danielle and Ger didn't work and they admit there is no incentive to get a job.

The couple once lived in a suite in Jury's Hotel for three months, paid for by Limerick City Council because no emergency accommodation was available."

I'm not one bit sorry when I say that these people are nothing but parasitic scum who deserve to be fcuked and broken as soon as possible. Cnuts.

eirebhoy

A girl I know has 2 kids and gets the full €1,200 of rent paid for a month.

fintonie

i know a couple they have 5 kids but not married haes on the rocknroll and working full time, and she gets full benifits for her and the kids as a single mum,

it gets better they get money from st vincent de paul every month to help pay bills and at easter and xmas get a massive hamper just in case they are having it tough.

KINGVictor

fintonie wrote: »

i know a couple they have 5 kids but not married haes on the rocknroll and working full time, and she gets full benifits for her and the kids as a single mum,

it gets better they get money from st vincent de paul every month to help pay bills and at easter and xmas get a massive hamper just in case they are having it tough.

Another Roll of I know a couple...I know a woman etc anectodal stories.

While I would not condone the statements made by the man -that he quit his job because he was better off on welfare , no right-thinking,self -respecting person would want to live like that and especially considering he has 6 kids that look up to them as role models.

I am going to fault that story because they factored the Child benefit into the plus €40,000 they are supposedly getting which incidentally forms a sizeable part of the total.CB is a universal payment in this country,so it means Brian Cowen and all ministers with children get the same money...so do all the rich people in this country....which I think is absolutely laughable.

El Weirdo

fintonie wrote: »

i know a couple they have 5 kids but not married haes on the rocknroll and working full time, and she gets full benifits for her and the kids as a single mum,

it gets better they get money from st vincent de paul every month to help pay bills and at easter and xmas get a massive hamper just in case they are having it tough.

In that case:

Reporting possible fraud
The Central Control Section of the Department of Social and Family Affairs accepts reports of possible fraud offered by members of the public in relation to the Department’s schemes.
Reports are accepted by email, phone or in writing. All reports are dealt with in confidence. A member of the public may give details anonymously.
Contact Details:
By email: central.control@welfare.ie
By phone: (01) 704 3000, ask for Central Control Section,
By Post: Central Control Division, Shannon Lodge, Carrick-on-Shannon, Co Leitrim.

(from http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Press/PressReleases/2009/Pages/pr210109.aspx)

fintonie

el_weirdo wrote: »

In that case:
Reporting possible fraud
The Central Control Section of the Department of Social and Family Affairs accepts reports of possible fraud offered by members of the public in relation to the Department’s schemes.
Reports are accepted by email, phone or in writing. All reports are dealt with in confidence. A member of the public may give details anonymously.
Contact Details:
By email: central.control@welfare.ie
By phone: (01) 704 3000, ask for Central Control Section,
By Post: Central Control Division, Shannon Lodge, Carrick-on-Shannon, Co Leitrim.
(from
http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Press/PressReleases/2009/Pages/pr210109.aspx)

they pay guys to do this let them earn there money i dont see no bounty

El Weirdo

fintonie wrote: »

they pay guys to do this let them earn there money i dont see no bounty

I presume, by that reasoning, that you would expect the Gardai to just happen to be driving past your house at the precise time you were being burgled...:rolleyes:

Sea Sharp

feck that sh1te.
What ever happened to hand me downs.

chamlis

Yo dawg
we heard you like to have kids
so we put an extension on your extension
so you can roide while you roide

CatacombKittens

markesmith wrote: »

Why do poor spellers have the most reactionary opinions?

I'd love to see a study with some empirical data on this.

That said, the Revenue system does need to be overhauled. But don't get your opinions from Ireland AM, it's a really poor show.

I hate it, because it's style over substance, but it there is a correlation there.

kumate_champ07

fintonie wrote: »

they pay guys to do this let them earn there money i dont see no bounty

are your taxes paying for their excess 'needs' ore are you on welfare too?

El Weirdo

fintonie wrote: »

they pay guys to do this let them earn there money i dont see no bounty

Also, if you believe that they are undeservedly receiving money from the SVP, why don't you speak to them? I'm pretty sure that they don't have paid investigators...

kumate_champ07

That woman must be getting infertility treatment because having so many sets of twins/triplets is near impossible naturally

granite man

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

are your taxes paying for their excess 'needs' ore are you on welfare too?

They aren't our taxes as the people who look after them consider them theirs. And they do whatever they fancy with them, generally having a very nice luxerious time on the way. Don't think you've any say in your taxes, cos you haven't.

Sarn

When you exclude the child benefit they are getting the equivalent of a €43,700 pa salary (single income, married). I'd imagine there are other benefits on top as well. With child benefit it comes up to €65,000 but as pointed out, everyone with kids can get that regardless of circumstances. I can't blame them for not wanting to work, the system is ridiculous.

gaeilgegrinds

In fairness I really think it's ridiculous, this system needs an overhaul, four tvs between 6 of them it said in the paper. Two cars too. Most of us sweat bullets for that!

Pete4779

Long Onion wrote: »

It seems like a lot but look at the number of kids they have, consider that a lot of this is rent allowance too - it's not as much as you would believe.

I personally believe that no-one should get money for nothing, there are plenty of schools etc to be built so let people work for the money but i do have an issue with media sensationalism.

It translates to a €70k a year gross salary, roughly. Not a lot of people earn that; when you earn significantly less yet there people "struggling to survive" on state benefits giving them more, those people on benefits like that need a reality check.

JONJO THE MISER

fintonie wrote: »

it gets better they get money from st vincent de paul every month to help pay bills and at easter and xmas get a massive hamper just in case they are having it tough.

Searches for the phonebook to get the number for local st vincent de pauls.

Wagon

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Agreed. Until we learn the difference between plural and singular nouns we're never going to fight our way out of this recession.

bloody nazi. And look! Most of the f**king third reich backed you up on on that one!