Prometheus *SPOILERS FROM POST 1538*

al28283

foxyboxer wrote: »

Avatar in 3-d was meant to be a one-off cinematic experience. Simple as.
It was a novelty upon release and worked brilliantly within the film.

No it wasn't. This is not true at all. Cameron put in a huge amount of time, money and effort developing new cameras and new technology.
He also spent a great deal of time selling 3D as the next big thing, and encouraging studios, filmmakers and cinemas across the world to start working in 3d long before Avatar was released.

No studio would have invested in it had it been meant as a one off novelty and cinemas would not have invested huge amounts of money in upgrading their systems to show it.

krudler

Handsome Bob wrote: »

It's not a hatchet job though where the film is post converted, it was made in 3D like Avatar or whatever the fcuk the technical term is.

Prometheus? first I heard it was shot in 3D

al28283

krudler wrote: »

Prometheus? first I heard it was shot in 3D

It was shot in 3d but some of it will be converted

Raekwon

It was shot entirely in 3D with a RED PRO 5.0 3D camera on an Element Technica ATOM 3D rig.

al28283

Nothing in shot entirely in 3d, there is always some conversion done

foxyboxer

al28283 wrote: »

No it wasn't. This is not true at all. Cameron put in a huge amount of time, money and effort developing new cameras and new technology.
He also spent a great deal of time selling 3D as the next big thing, and encouraging studios, filmmakers and cinemas across the world to start working in 3d long before Avatar was released.

No studio would have invested in it had it been meant as a one off novelty and cinemas would not have invested huge amounts of money in upgrading their systems to show it.

All I can deduce is,

Pre-Avatar - no 3-D movies.
Post-Avatar's record gross - a glut of crappy 3-D films (some retro-fitted)
Case in point; Titanic's re-release. Most people have seen it, some have seen it a lot. Why pay a tenner to see it again when I have it at home? It needed the 3-d gimmick to arouse an interest.


I think Cameron et al have been pushing for digital (shooting and displaying movies) as opposed to 3-d. A movie about the holocaust in 3-d? That'll sell well. :pac:

The future is digital, not 3-d.

al28283

foxyboxer wrote: »

All I can deduce is,

Pre-Avatar - no 3-D movies.
Post-Avatar's record gross - a glut of crappy 3-D films (some retro-fitted)

I think Cameron et al have been pushing for digital as opposed to 3-d.
The future is digital, not 3-d.

but there were quite a few 3d movies before Avatar

foxyboxer

al28283 wrote: »

but there were quite a few 3d movies before Avatar

Last one i can recall was Jaws 3-D, another one-off.

krudler

foxyboxer wrote: »

Last one i can recall was Jaws 3-D, another one-off.

Monster House
Spy Kids 3D
Polar Express
Superman Returns
Monsters Vs Aliens
Up

all out before Avatar, it wasnt as widespread as it is now but they were being made.

I genuinely had no idea Prometheus was going to be 3D, the hell with that, I'll be going to the 2D one.

al28283

:eek:Jaws 3d was in 1983.

There have been alot of 3d movies between then and Avatar.

Harry Potter 5 and Superman Returns had 3d Sequences, A Xmas Carol Coraline, Nightmare before Xmas, Final Destination, Monster House, the shark boy and lava girl movies, Journey to the Centre of the Earth were all well before Avatar.

Mitch Connor

foxyboxer wrote: »

Last one i can recall was Jaws 3-D, another one-off.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_3D_films

There were a load of movies in 3d before Avatar. Not sure if all the ones on that list use the new tech, but I know a good number of them do. I certainly saw Nightmare Before Christmas, Coraline, Beowulf, Bolt, Up etc in 3d before Avatar was released.

Thoms Yorkie Bars

Raekwon wrote: »

New Prometheus Viral: Happy Birthday David

I don't want to be reported again for another stupid reason so please do not watch if

you don't already know that David is an android

.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOOJl5lWNfM

Anyone else think he's the spit of David Bowie in this?


Also here's a poster that was released alongside the viral

Sad Professor

Thoms Yorkie Bars wrote: »

Also here's a poster that was released alongside the viral

Fassbender said his performance was partially inspired by David Bowie in The Man Who Fell To Earth.

Zubeneschamali

Mitch Connor wrote: »

There were a load of movies in 3d before Avatar.

The earliest one I remember seeing in cinemas with proper colour and polarized glasses was Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone from 1983.

Mindkiller

Raekwon wrote: »

New Prometheus Viral: Happy Birthday David

I don't want to be reported again for another stupid reason so please do not watch if

you don't already know that David is an android

.

Eh, I reckon you're ok now if they're releasing huge PR posters of Michael Fassbender where it explicitly says he's a robot.

Mark Hamill

Thoms Yorkie Bars wrote: »

Also here's a poster that was released alongside the viral

Wait a minute, Fassbender is a blonde android named David? Prometheus isn't an Alien prequel/side story, its a sequel to "A.I. Artificial Intelligence".

Someone go back and look at the trailers, I bet you can see the teddy in the background.:pac:

Thoms Yorkie Bars

Mark Hamill wrote: »

Wait a minute, Fassbender is a blonde android named David? Prometheus isn't an Alien prequel/side story, its a sequel to "A.I. Artificial Intelligence".

Someone go back and look at the trailers, I bet you can see the teddy in the background.:pac:

Mind = Blown

Handsome Bob

Well, I can officially say that Fassbender plays creepy robots well.

Raekwon

Mindkiller wrote: »

Eh, I reckon you're ok now if they're releasing huge PR posters of Michael Fassbender where it explicitly says he's a robot.

Nice one. Just making sure because a week ago I was reported and my post was edited for something that everybody outside of communist states knew about. Btw I take back the apology I made

Raekwon

al28283 wrote: »

Nothing in shot entirely in 3d, there is always some conversion done

Scott himself told reports at Comic Con 2012 that this movie was shot entirely in 3D and that he would never shoot in any other format again

Ridley Scott wrote:

"I will never be the same again. Even with a dialogue scene, the arena in the room grows. There is no question that you can be drawn in further by the feeling that you are there,"

al28283

Raekwon wrote: »

Scott himself told reports at Comic Con 2012 that this movie was shot entirely in 3D and that he would never shoot in any other format again

Hmmmm, as a stereo compositor I highly doubt it as it would be the first movie ever to be shot entirely in 3d and that would be a very big deal.

If it is I would expect i'd have heard how they managed it as it is not technically possible right now, due to the limitations of the technology.


Then there's any 2d vfx such as matte paintings and any 2d elements. Fully CG elements can be rendered easily in stereo but not anything which originates as 2d needs to be given depth manually in post.

mikhail

al28283 wrote: »

Hmmmm, as a stereo compositor I highly doubt it as it would be the first movie ever to be shot entirely in 3d and that would be a very big deal.

If it is I would expect i'd have heard how they managed it as it is not technically possible right now, due to the limitations of the technology.


Then there's any 2d vfx such as matte paintings and any 2d elements. Fully CG elements can be rendered easily in stereo but not anything which originates as 2d needs to be given depth manually in post.

Matte paintings are almost always background. That's not usually 'popped' by the 3D anyway. (At least, it shouldn't be - human stereo vision isn't supposed to work at long range, so I imagine it'd look wrong somehow.)

FlashD

Raekwon wrote: »

Nice one. Just making sure because a week ago I was reported and my post was edited for something that everybody outside of communist states knew about. Btw I take back the apology I made

Sure isn't it common knowledge that Fassbender is an android, what's the big swing? That poster makes him look a "bit twitchy".

Raekwon

FlashD wrote: »

Sure isn't it common knowledge that Fassbender is an android, what's the big swing? That poster makes him look a "bit twitchy".

Yeah I thought so too but obviously I was mistaken as my original post was edited after a 'complaint' :rolleyes:

Mellor

al28283 wrote: »

Hmmmm, as a stereo compositor I highly doubt it as it would be the first movie ever to be shot entirely in 3d and that would be a very big deal.

If it is I would expect i'd have heard how they managed it as it is not technically possible right now, due to the limitations of the technology.


Then there's any 2d vfx such as matte paintings and any 2d elements. Fully CG elements can be rendered easily in stereo but not anything which originates as 2d needs to be given depth manually in post.

I don't think we need to be so anal about it.
When people say it was shot in 3D, they mean it was shot in stereo. As opposed to shot in 2D.

There's always goign to be post processing, for 3D, and 2D.

Thoms Yorkie Bars

Some new stills

Mickeroo

Some good desktop background fodder there!

Had to double take at the first one, thought that was the Death Star.

FlashD

Charlize Theron is an android too, right? She looks a bit androidish.

2 for the price of 1.

Double the trouble.

"bit twitchy" x2

:pac:

Roar

Fassbender sounds like Harry Enfield's "Doctor Phillip" character

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnjEnHNCuco

Or is that just me?

jcf

Roar wrote: »

Fassbender sounds like Harry Enfield's "Doctor Phillip" character

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnjEnHNCuco

Or is that just me?

.. heh funny, but maybe it is just you :P

Back to things Alien, can anyone recommend good fan fiction? or fiction set in the Alien Universe - NOT involving Predators tho