A5 - Derry Dual Carraigeway

Redsoxfan

Charlatans

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7045p9zrp5o

spacetweek

Would be nice to have Irish judges this side of the border clear their schedules when confronted by vexatious litigants who want a bus stop moved.

josip

Reading the RTE news article it would seem that the landowners group are using whatever legal argument that best suits their personal objectives, without necessarily being strong supporters of that Climate Act. I hope they are hung out to dry for costs when all this is concluded.

Redsoxfan

Hearing on March. Enough is Enough are being allowed to be heard.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2024/1129/1483771-a5/

Chris_5339762

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122902059#Comment_122902059

Thats whats happened up to now, and they've sadly been extremely successful at it. And managing not to get hit with costs.

sob1467

Saw this https://www.itv.com/news/utv/2025-02-07/fears-for-tyrone-family-business-as-a5-built-on-farm-land ITV segment about the Tyrone farmer worried about the A5 going through his land. Look, no one wants to see people lose farmland or businesses, but let’s be real—over 50 people have died on this road since 2006. How many more need to die before this upgrade happens?

The comments on Facebook sum it up—this isn’t just about a few acres of land, it’s about saving lives. Yet some people are acting like their land is more important than fixing one of the most dangerous roads in the country.

And let’s be honest, there’s always been a strong element of those objecting you are strongly of the view to "give nothing to the northwest of the North and even less to those travelling onwards to the South" when it comes to infrastructure, due to their strong political beliefs.

If this was anywhere else, it would have been built years ago. The longer this gets dragged out, the more people will die. Simple as that.

NIMAN

WHy do they not just do CPOs?

Take the land now, it's been dragging on for too long.

The farmers will be compensated.

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123154489#Comment_123154489

Cant CPO if the project hasn't gotten planning or was struck down in court. AAA have been fighting it in court each time to stall and stop the project so that land won't be taken at all

road_high

This has really dragged on. What are their alternative proposals- online upgrades and widening of the existing road?

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123155824#Comment_123155824

Town bypasses and passing lanes / 2+1 on the existing corridor. They did have a website but it appears to be long gone, but that's what they proposed in their previous objection.

Effectively sub-par bollox that would not solve any issues and need to be replaced.

NIMAN

I wonder do other countries allow such hold ups?

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123155883#Comment_123155883

Anywhere with a common law legal system runs the risk of this.

Chris_5339762

Look to the M28 Steering Group. They eventually got defeated and that motorway is starting soon, but the A5 AAA have been much more "successful" in their battles.

Cookiemunster

Different jurisdictions with different laws and appeals mechanisms though.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123167605#Comment_123167605

Legal system similar enough that court cases can even swap jurisdictions occasionally (very, very occasionally - almost ungoogleable but here's one). The common law elements are the same, basically.