Most Annoying things for runners .....

eliwallach

:mad:
Seeing as alot of people are venting their rage on various threads today, what are the most annoying things for the running fraternity?
(We can compile a list when everybody has had their say, and submit it to AAI to see if they can do anything for us / about it :rolleyes:)

I'll start so:

Slower runners and WALKERS starting way too near the start of a race. WTF?
That one really "gets my goat".

ntlbell

dodgey knee's :mad::mad:

osnola ibax

Work

Running Bing

People walking or doing recovery jogs on the inside lane of the track, so inconsiderate.

On another note, I know they probably have the right, but it annoys me when I see people doing easy mileage on the inside lane of the track? Why would you want to do six miles around a bloody track? Go to the park ffs.


That felt good:D

brutes

dogs that attack!

eliwallach

brutes wrote: »

dogs that attack!

We can shorten that to just "DOGS" for the list.....:rolleyes:

ecoli

brutes wrote: »

dogs that attack!

+1 worst occurence of this resulted in a 800m sprint in the middle of the easy run and one the guys had to get a tetanous shot

p3-fitz

ah its definitely the joggers who hog the inside lane. There is a group of women who train on our track and run about 3 min lap pace and they take up 3 lanes by running side by side and when u say track they seem to think they can just stay in the way anyway. I know everyone has equal right to use the track and so on but they dont need the inside lane and defo not 3 inside lanes :mad: or even worse when people in front of you finish a rep and just stop and stand in the inside lane, not moving out of the way .

Magnet

1.Waterproof mascara that ain`t waterproof!
2.Dog poop anywhere but not on my nice clean runners.
3.Cars,unless I`m driving and then I own the damn road!
4.Women in cars trying to ask for directions when you`re clearly not gonna stop!
5.Couples holding hands taking over the entire footpath.
6.People asking me how long the marathon is. D`oh!

I could go on...
That was great thanks
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

topper75

busting your ass and getting lost cos the organisers failed to post a marshall at a critical turn. :mad:

busting your ass and thinking you got a PB, but you find out later the course was measured short. (this doesn't happen in AAI sanctioned races at least) :mad:

run_Forrest_run

oh where do I start!!

1. Dogs (especially when not on leads in PUBLIC AREAS!!!) While their ignorant owners don't give a sh*t. And speaking of sh*t, owners never clean up after their mutts (in Cork anyway).

2. Women walkers (yes, women!) who see you coming the opposite direction and not even bother to move in so we can all share the footpath..I now use elbows when passing, maybe if they ran they might not take up as much of the path in the first place!

3. Cyclists on footpaths - get a life ye sad bunch, ye wear poncy helmets so why not try them out and get the fcuk out onto the road.

4. As already said by others, those who insist on being up the front at a race and then end up slowing up others after about 500 yards! Ballycotton is one of the worst offenders due to large numbers and narrow roads.

5. People who call 5km - 8 mile races 'Mini Marathons'!

phew, all done!

HardyEustace

People telling you that they've done a marathon when it's really been the MINI-MARATHON. Not the same thing folks. And then getting all sniff-y when you point it out. <<ducks for cover>>

HardyEustace

Organisers thinking that it's perfectly acceptable to charge the gnp of a small African country for a race entry once <<insert charity name>> is thrown into the title or in the first three lines of marketing about the race.

Organisers who are very taciturn on how much goes to said charity.

run_Forrest_run

HardyEustace wrote: »

Organisers thinking that it's perfectly acceptable to charge the gnp of a small African country for a race entry once <<insert charity name>> is thrown into the title or in the first three lines of marketing about the race.

Organisers who are very taciturn on how much goes to said charity.

a certain half marathon springs to mind :rolleyes:

DJS

It has to be, joggers on the inside lane! As said before there is a bunch of runners/walkers that take up too many lanes, and what is worse is when there finished a rep they stay on the inside lane and dont move!

Also has to be people screaming "run forrest run" like here, Its not like iv never heard that before!!

Also when people who ask u for a 100m race when ur a long distance runner and they tell everyone he is **** cause he beat ya over a 100m

But the biggest on is the walkers on the inside track!! Or stupid kids that when u shout TRACK they dont know what it means so they move to the outside when u try run around them

MrCreosote

run_Forrest_run wrote: »

a certain half marathon springs to mind :rolleyes:

Great name! It is also my pet hate getting that shouted at me.

Dogs seem to be high on the list- I though it was just me...

Running Bing

DJS wrote: »

Also has to be people screaming "run forrest run" like here, Its not like iv never heard that before!!

lol, just in from a run right now and guess what some genius shouted at me?

hilarious:rolleyes:

thirstywork

eliwallach wrote: »

:mad:
Seeing as alot of people are venting their rage on various threads today, what are the most annoying things for the running fraternity?
(We can compile a list when everybody has had their say, and submit it to AAI to see if they can do anything for us / about it :rolleyes:)

I'll start so:

Slower runners and WALKERS starting way too near the start of a race. WTF?
That one really "gets my goat".

how can the AAI solve this???

limerickleader

Great idea for a thread...right, my first thoughts

1. Injuries (and related to that: Trying to run through injuries/Coming back from injuries/Cost of Physio)
2. Manky toes and feet...
3. Runners who "draft" in a race...you know you people are! Just because I'm tall doesn't mean I want to block you from the elements for the next 10 miles...and you then have the grace to pass me in the last 50m...

osnola ibax

Family

lightening

As a runner and a dog owner, you should note that off lead dog walking is allowed. You need to check the by-laws. I have had plenty of joggers come up to me to berate me about having my dog off the lead. I explain the by-laws of the area and they start on about the dog cr@p, I show them the baggies I use and they just run off, never an apology!! The dog is very well trained and doesn't chase or approach the joggers.

In fact, I have been approached by more joggers while walking the dog than dogs when running. I once had a jogger run between the dog and me when the dog was on a short lead.

A word of warning though. DON'T run right by a dog, especially if it is on the lead. While training mine I got him to sit and stay in front of me and joggers would run within inches of him. Give the animal a bit of room, they don't know you are just going to run by, they might think you are running at them. Particularly if they see you at the last minute. Not worth a few weeks off the road, pain, stitches and a tetanus to prove a point.

My pet hate: other joggers who jog on the cycle track wearing dark clothes at night in the winter... come on guys and girls, you are asking for trouble and giving joggers and runners a bad name. I cringe when I see you.

osnola ibax

lightening wrote: »

As a runner and a dog owner, you should note that off lead dog walking is allowed. You need to check the by-laws. I have had plenty of joggers come up to me to berate me about having my dog off the lead. I explain the by-laws of the area and they start on about the dog cr@p, I show them the baggies I use and they just run off, never an apology!! The dog is very well trained and doesn't chase or approach the joggers.

In fact, I have been approached by more joggers while walking the dog than dogs when running. I once had a jogger run between the dog and me when the dog was on a short lead.

A word of warning though. DON'T run right by a dog, especially if it is on the lead. While training mine I got him to sit and stay in front of me and joggers would run within inches of him. Give the animal a bit of room, they don't know you are just going to run by, they might think you are running at them. Particularly if they see you at the last minute. Not worth a few weeks off the road, pain, stitches and a tetanus to prove a point.

Fair points lightening, I am always very respectful of dogs when running, flying by within inches of a dog is a sure way to frighten the living bejaysus out of them, and get a chase if off lead. I always cross over the road and steer well clear when I see dogs, for their sake and mine.

RunToFart

lightening wrote: »

As a runner and a dog owner, you should note that off lead dog walking is allowed. You need to check the by-laws. I have had plenty of joggers come up to me to berate me about having my dog off the lead. I explain the by-laws of the area and they start on about the dog cr@p, I show them the baggies I use and they just run off, never an apology!! The dog is very well trained and doesn't chase or approach the joggers.

In fact, I have been approached by more joggers while walking the dog than dogs when running. I once had a jogger run between the dog and me when the dog was on a short lead.

A word of warning though. DON'T run right by a dog, especially if it is on the lead. While training mine I got him to sit and stay in front of me and joggers would run within inches of him. Give the animal a bit of room, they don't know you are just going to run by, they might think you are running at them. Particularly if they see you at the last minute. Not worth a few weeks off the road, pain, stitches and a tetanus to prove a point.

My pet hate: other joggers who jog on the cycle track wearing dark clothes at night in the winter... come on guys and girls, you are asking for trouble and giving joggers and runners a bad name. I cringe when I see you.

Thought you had to keep them on a lead so had a sniffter and you are bang on

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1986/en/act/pub/0032/sec0009.html#zza32y1986s9

followed by

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1986/en/act/pub/0032/sec0017.html#zza32y1986s17

If you have a greyhound you have to keep it on a lead.

Hate the term dog owners use "he's only playing"..... I ain't playing mo fo I'm trying to run ya gimpy-hole. I wouldn't run across your friggin path or try and jump on you (unless you were really fit:)) if you were smackin a golf ball or sliotar or whatever other poxy sports you play:pac:

run_Forrest_run

lightening wrote: »

A word of warning though. DON'T run right by a dog, especially if it is on the lead. While training mine I got him to sit and stay in front of me and joggers would run within inches of him. Give the animal a bit of room, they don't know you are just going to run by, they might think you are running at them. Particularly if they see you at the last minute. Not worth a few weeks off the road, pain, stitches and a tetanus to prove a point.

I give dogs a wide berth, even when they see me coming the opposite way. The problem is the dogs are not on a lead and the dumb hounds always just decide to change their direction at the last minute and I end up dodging them while trying to avoid falling over them...and all while their owner is blissfully ignorant to it all or just not bothered to have respect for others.

chinguetti

1. People who wear headphones in races/fun run. How can you hear any instructions you are given or people coming behind you for heaven's sake

2. Runners who wear black while running at night in the winter. You are silly.

3. People who are running ahead of you and then stop without warning in the middle of the road. You have no sense.

4. Bad weather when you not dressed for it.

tagoona

for those that live in the country- too often loose cows on the road completely breaks my concentration.
Came across 2 old boys trying to move cows on the road at 7 this morning. Lost at least 4 minutes off my cycle time.

lightening

run_Forrest_run wrote: »

I end up dodging.

I end up dodging them too. Doesn't really bother me, they are animals, I dodge all sorts of things. Very few dogs bite, if anyone was to be bitten it will be me, red in the face, breathing heavily, eyes bulging, mouth open, sweating, veins on my forehead...

ss43

lightening wrote: »

As a runner and a dog owner, you should note that off lead dog walking is allowed. You need to check the by-laws. I have had plenty of joggers come up to me to berate me about having my dog off the lead. I explain the by-laws of the area and they start on about the dog cr@p, I show them the baggies I use and they just run off, never an apology!! The dog is very well trained and doesn't chase or approach the joggers.

In fact, I have been approached by more joggers while walking the dog than dogs when running. I once had a jogger run between the dog and me when the dog was on a short lead.

A word of warning though. DON'T run right by a dog, especially if it is on the lead. While training mine I got him to sit and stay in front of me and joggers would run within inches of him. Give the animal a bit of room, they don't know you are just going to run by, they might think you are running at them. Particularly if they see you at the last minute. Not worth a few weeks off the road, pain, stitches and a tetanus to prove a point.

My pet hate: other joggers who jog on the cycle track wearing dark clothes at night in the winter... come on guys and girls, you are asking for trouble and giving joggers and runners a bad name. I cringe when I see you.

The dog must, however, be under effectual control. If it bites because someone ran close to it then it is not under effectual control in my (and I would imagine many others') opinion. I never have a go at people for having their dog off a lead unless it impedes my run. Unfortunately, I have often had a go at people for their dogs attacking (just playing) with me.

Cheers for the word of warning about not going too close to the dog. At the end of the day though, the owner chooses to bring the dog out and is ultimately responsible for its behaviour. If the dog gets in somebody's way when they're running, the owner has been a prick.

Condo131

run_Forrest_run wrote: »

a certain half marathon springs to mind :rolleyes:

........What? Only one?

I think there are about half a dozen of these this year...and...all of them seem to be independently run (but under a club's race permit).

The Blarney Half Mar costs €20, while the addidas Half costs €30. Compare these with most of the independents that seem to be charging anything from €50 to €90!!

...and they don't seem to be having any bother getting entries.....often far exceeding entries for the regular club half-mars!!:(:eek::mad:

lightening

ss43 wrote: »

The dog must, however, be under effectual control. If it bites because someone ran close to it then it is not under effectual control in my (and I would imagine many others') opinion.

If you run up behind a dog, on or off the lead at full tilt and the dog cops you at the last minute and reacts you might be in trouble, same with a goat, horse or donkey. I am dog savy and wouldn't do this, but people do. The dog may be under control, but animals get spooked. If the dog is on the lead and you do the same there is even a better chance the dog will bite, they are more protective on the lead and some dogs feel they are impeded by the lead and will be more defensive.

ss43 wrote: »

If the dog gets in somebody's way when they're running, the owner has been a prick.

For dogs to get used to joggers they have to come in contact with them. My dog was a pup and I had to get friends to run by as I trained him to sit and stay. When he was older I would spot a jogger coming and get him to sit and stay. Sometimes the temptation was too much and the tail would start wagging and he would take off, the reaction was mixed, I would tell them the dog was in training, some understood, some were just idiots, others would reach down, pat the dog or play with him... different strokes.

Just out of interest, how many of you have been bitten? I don't mean chased or attacked, I mean actually bitten by a dog out running.

eliwallach

thirstywork wrote: »

how can the AAI solve this???

Do the words "tongue" and "cheek" ring a bell with you?;)

RoyMcC

Mr Lightening, after your input I am starting to see dogs in a slightly different light. I'm going to try and be a bit more tolerant of them and their owners in future. It's just that dogs always look like they want to bite or kill you, but I guess that's because they can't smile

Now I'd be completely converted if Ireland would deal with it's dog****e issue :mad:

eliwallach

Magnet wrote: »

4.Women in cars trying to ask for directions when you`re clearly not gonna stop!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Amazing!
This actually happened to me yesterday.
A woman stopped on the opposite side of the road shouted over "excuse me, excuse me". She caught me right off guard and I was a little strrtled that it was me she was beckoning.
Without thinking I stopped for milliseconds and looked over, she was at this stage berating a couple of kids in the back of the car.
Again, without thinking, I said "I can't stop, I have to keep going" (!?) And ran on.
Felt bad about it straight away and with the benefit of hindsight I should have been a little more patient and bestowed my local geographical knowledge on her. I put my OH in her position with a couple of kids in the back and I wasn't too proud of my actions. She caught me off guard, I'll be prepared next time.
Having said that she didn't further her own cause any by stopping on the opposite side if the road and then turning away when I did (very briefly) stop.

Flying Abruptly

Stumbled across this recenetly, agree with everything it says

http://runnerville.com/2008/04/08/outkicked-the-eleven-natural-enemies-of-every-runner/

jeffontour

Two biggies for me.

1. Chaffing!! Generally I'm good at taking precautions but on last Friday's run I didn't wear lycra shorts and ended up walking like Mr. Wayne for a day. Then on Sunday I wore a new top which did my nipples in, ouch.

2. Back to the dog owners thing, not a problem with the dogs themselves I stress! This time it's when they are on one of those retractable leads and their owner is 15 feet away. Can be very hard to see the lead in the dark and can be very dangerous, especially if cycling. In daylight it's just plain inconsiderate to have a mobile chicane in operation in busy areas.

lightening

RoyMcC wrote: »

Mr Lightening, after your input I am starting to see dogs in a slightly different light. I'm going to try and be a bit more tolerant of them and their owners in future. It's just that dogs always look like they want to bite or kill you, but I guess that's because they can't smile

Now I'd be completely converted if Ireland would deal with it's dog****e issue :mad:

Yeah, sometimes they are hard to read, boxers and the like, no tail, short ears, flat face, muscular stance and the stare they give you! A bit disconcerting if you can't read them.

I can't believe people wouldn't stop to give directions, amazing, I couldn't run by, not in my nature, not the way I was reared and I have never had someone refuse to give me directions.

griffin100

1. Lost nipples
2. Car drivers who play chicken with you and only swerve around you at the last minute (no footpaths were I live)
3. Walkers who start a race half an hour before you do yet decide to run the last 500m to make it look like they are faster than you
4. Dogs - although more of a problem on the bike for me
5. High race fees and crap goody bags
6. Having what I think is a good race and then being overtaken by someone twice my age / weight:)

eliwallach

lightening wrote: »

I can't believe people wouldn't stop to give directions, amazing, I couldn't run by, not in my nature, not the way I was reared and I have never had someone refuse to give me directions.

You the MAN!

lightening

I know.

Stupid_Private

lightening wrote: »

I can't believe people wouldn't stop to give directions, amazing, I couldn't run by, not in my nature, not the way I was reared and I have never had someone refuse to give me directions.

I'd agree with you on that. I've never not stopped when someone has asked for directions.

If you came to a set of traffic lights would you just fly through them and all? "it's alright cars, I'm on a tempo run!"

Clum

Kids in boy racer cars with air rifles
and
The uncanny ability of boy racer cars to accomodate half a dozen kids who are willing to give chase to runners that react to air rifle yielding kids by throwing hard object at said car
also
Being chased by wolves around a recently polished smooth surface whilst doning only socks on feet - hasn't happened but sounds pretty scary.

Condo131

lightening wrote: »

Just out of interest, how many of you have been bitten? I don't mean chased or attacked, I mean actually bitten by a dog out running.

Only been bitten once. Person in charge was a kennel owner walking four dogs on lead. One was rearing up, snarling and difficult to control - I was on the other side of a narrow country road. ....meantime another quiet terrier, owned by the guy, and not on a lead, came out of the hedge behind me and bit me in the calf - I didn't even know he was there! Had to have shots etc. Dog was put down after statement to Gardai.

Been injured 3 times on account of dogs;

Dog ran into me, tripping me up - bad sprain - lost a few weeks.

Twice taken down by leads - both times at night on darkish streets and dogs were on long leads - got caught up in the leads. The first time two women were walking on the footpath, so I passed on the road adjacent to them. There was a dog on the other side of the road, about 4 or 5 metres away. Anyway it turned out that the woman on the inside had the dog on an extension lead. The 4 of us, dog n all, ended up on the deck!

I've also been forced to stop many, many times by dangerous dogs, neither on leads or muzzled. Last time it happened, I threatened the Gardai on the owner, who called off the dog. "get back ******!" Says it all.

In my experience, there are three types of dog situation:
Dog under control: on lead and, where appropriate, muzzled - 20%
Dog neither on lead nor, where appropriate, muzzled - 70%
Dangerous breed neither muzzled nor on lead - 10%

I regularly meet alsatians roaming away with their owners oblivious to everyone else and I've come across dobermans and the like, often in pairs.

btw, Jerry Kiernan was bitten very badly in Marley Park about 20 years ago.

Control of Dogs Act
Control of Dogs Act 1991

eliwallach

Condo131 wrote: »

btw, Jerry Kiernan was bitten very badly in Marley Park about 20 years ago.

And Eamonn Coughlan (that's twice in the space of 3 days I've name-checked the great EC) received a particularly nasty calf injury from an out of control canine in the Drumcondra area many years ago.

lightening

Boy racers with air rifles?? Seriously? Where is this?

So one dog bite and two stories, one from 20 years ago and the EC one, that was about 20 years ago too.

ss43

lightening wrote: »

If you run up behind a dog, on or off the lead at full tilt and the dog cops you at the last minute and reacts you might be in trouble, same with a goat, horse or donkey. I am dog savy and wouldn't do this, but people do. The dog may be under control, but animals get spooked. If the dog is on the lead and you do the same there is even a better chance the dog will bite, they are more protective on the lead and some dogs feel they are impeded by the lead and will be more defensive.



For dogs to get used to joggers they have to come in contact with them. My dog was a pup and I had to get friends to run by as I trained him to sit and stay. When he was older I would spot a jogger coming and get him to sit and stay. Sometimes the temptation was too much and the tail would start wagging and he would take off, the reaction was mixed, I would tell them the dog was in training, some understood, some were just idiots, others would reach down, pat the dog or play with him... different strokes.

Just out of interest, how many of you have been bitten? I don't mean chased or attacked, I mean actually bitten by a dog out running.

I have been bitten once on a run. I have been chased, interrupted
and forced to stop numerous times. Not biting doesn't to me necessarily mean acceptable behaviour. Not intruding on someone else's activities would be more like it.

People were idiots for not appreciating the fact that your dog was in training, is that right? Did you think maybe you didn't appreciate the fact that they were in training? What would you think if while your dog training was in process someone came up and started teasing your dog or annoying you and interrupting the training?

lightening

Condo131 wrote: »

I regularly meet alsatians roaming away with their owners oblivious to everyone else and I've come across dobermans and the like, often in pairs.

Same here actually, rottweilers, mastiffs and bull terriers too, but never been touched by any of them. Just shows you, the law is an ass. I reckon the biggest biters would be farm sheepdogs and terriers.

lightening

ss43 wrote: »

What would you think if while your dog training was in process someone came up and started teasing your dog or annoying you and interrupting the training?

That is exactly what happened!! I was getting the dog to sit and stay and people jogged right by the dog in between me and him as I was trying to train him! Couldn't believe it, it was obvious what I was doing.

Seres

• rain when you wear glasses , then you try to dry them in your t-shirt and they get really smudged (cause t-shirt is damp/wet)
• people staring at you while you are running : i am only running
• cars driving really slow past you while you are running
• people shouting at you : would they shout at me if i was walking ?!
• really incurrate pedometers

TheRoadRunner

lightening wrote: »

Boy racers with air rifles?? Seriously? Where is this?

So one dog bite and two stories, one from 20 years ago and the EC one, that was about 20 years ago too.

I've been bitten twice and brought to the ground once.

Dogs are a pain in the arse for runners and like you I have a dog who is generally well behaved around runners. However if I can help it I will never allow the situation arise where she will get spooked by a runner coming up behind her. A spooked dog can bite and when it bites it's time for said dog to wave good bye to this world. So it's not the dogs fault it's inconsiderate dog owners I have a problem with.

Seres

i think there is always a few seconds before a dog attacks you that its that type of dog , the way they run at you , without hesitation and their bark is always sounds really vicious

HardyEustace

lightening wrote: »

That is exactly what happened!! I was getting the dog to sit and stay and people jogged right by the dog in between me and him as I was trying to train him! Couldn't believe it, it was obvious what I was doing.

Not trying to be smart but why would you attempt to train your dog in a main thoroughfare where you knew that people would be passing by?