So, what you playing at the mo? Retro Edition

o1s1n

Y U NO SAVE FLICKIES???

CiDeRmAn

Nintendo love continues unbounded in Chez Ciderman as I spent an hour with Metroid Other M.
Having spent the years since its release feeling hard done by after the Prime titles I remember Johnny U saying it was good and I was full of it, not his exact words but close as makes no difference.
And how right he was.
Its a blast.
Only problems are some interesting times controlling Samus with a d pad in 3d space, unskippable cut scenes and terrible voice acting, not to mention the mysogeny.
But its great fun and has a real Super Metroid vibe to it, looks great too, playing through the WiiU.

johnny_ultimate

Don't get wrong, Other M isn't a stone cold masterpiece, but it is a really enjoyable and offbeat effort, that successfully mixes around the series formula a little bit with strong level design and plenty of good ideas. It's one of those cases where I always felt the game's undeniable shortcomings - most obviously the suspect storytelling and controller quirks - were used to almost wholly dismiss what was, in many other ways, a very strong game. I especially think the change of pace was welcome after the Metroid Prime series seemed to be suffering something of a creative slowdown: Prime 3 was still an excellent game, but wasn't exactly a particularly ambitious or revolutionary sequel. Team Ninja's fresh perspective, even if imperfect, was needed, and happily Retro Studios themselves had the chance to try something completely different.

Interesting to see if Nintendo or some third party opt to revisit the series somewhere along the line.

CiDeRmAn

A WiiU Metroid now, with a permamap on the Gamepad please.
Unfortunately you know you'll be doing interminable "scanning" with it, fun for five minutes or so, though it was nicely part of the Prime titles, stolen by the Rocksteady Batman games!

It shares an important element with the Mario and Zelda titles and that's the little sonic stings that let you know you're at home, when you power up a missile tank, kick jump off a wall, or lay down a power bomb, even with eyes closed you know what game you're playing.

Star Lord

If you cut out all the cutscenes where Samus is

subservient to Adam, or where she is paralysed by fear by Ridley

OtherM is a pretty decent, different, fun Metroid 2.5D game.

(But WTF is with the weird name?)

CiDeRmAn

No idea, given it was team ninja we can only be thankful they didn't include use defined Samus breast bounciness as an option.

Retr0gamer

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

(But WTF is with the weird name?)

Other M is an anagram of Mother, because of the 'baby' metroid. Yes it is that dumb.

That game sometimes makes itself very hard to like.

CiDeRmAn

Maybe it makes more sense in the original Klingon? Achilles, help here?

Retr0gamer

So near the end of shin megami tensei 4 after a new game +. I originally said a lot of important plot details are in the dlc. Well I was wrong, it's all there just hidden a bit like dark souls so you piece it together. The dlc is just a few (ultra) hardcore boss fights.

MrVestek

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Maybe it makes more sense in the original Klingon? Achilles, help here?

Erm... erh...

Yes.

murphyebass

Kind of retro...ish

I was going to try finish Rayman legends this month on wii u but I've wanted to play resident evil 4 for sooooo long now I thought sure why not give platform games a break.

Only about a half hour in and so far so good. Already had a small fright when there was someone in a hit I really didn't expect.

Controls on wii are odd. Not sure will I like them but hoping it becomes normal as I go on. CGR review seems to think its the best version of the game so fingers crossed i get it.

Loving the fact it's in widescreen. Maybe I'm loosing the plot but I think it looks great. It's not HD obviously but I think it holds its own nicely.

Mr.Saturn

Resi 4 is the point at which I figured motion-controls were always going to struggle when combined with traditional playstyles. I mean, if you look at most successful instances of them being incorporated into typical games, for example the Mario Galaxy titles, their involvement is minimized to the odd shake and the occasional point to scoop up bits.

Mind, I have had people laugh at me for dismiss RE:4: Wii, and name it the best port going, and they'd be fans of the series too.

CiDeRmAn

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

Resi 4 is the point at which I figured motion-controls were always going to struggle when combined with traditional playstyles. I mean, if you look at most successful instances of them being incorporated into typical games, for example the Mario Galaxy titles, their involvement is minimized to the odd shake and the occasional point to scoop up bits.

Mind, I have had people laugh at me for dismiss RE:4: Wii, and name it the best port going, and they'd be fans of the series too.

I have it on the GC and the PS2 but never picked up the Wii version.
Going to have to correct that now!
The sound of a two stroke engine still fills me with dread!

Star Lord

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

Resi 4 is the point at which I figured motion-controls were always going to struggle when combined with traditional playstyles.

Just out of curiosity, what is it in Resi 4 that you struggled with, control wise?

murphyebass

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

Just out of curiosity, what is it in Resi 4 that you struggled with, control wise?

So far personally and I know your question was directed at someone else but I'm just getting used to the controls. They quite unconventional so it takes a bit of time but I do like the point and shoot dynamic. The headshots you can pull off are sweet.

o1s1n

Can't you use the GC pad with the Wii version?

Fairly sure I remember playing it that way.

murphyebass

o1s1n wrote: »

Can't you use the GC pad with the Wii version?

Fairly sure I remember playing it that way.

Maybe.

I'm playing the wii game on the wii u though so don't have that option if it is available.

Mr.Saturn

o1s1n wrote: »

Can't you use the GC pad with the Wii version?

Fairly sure I remember playing it that way.

Quick glance at its Wiki entry..........yes, yes you can. As referenced, I couldn't quite get used to the 'point&shoot' of it all; kept reaching for buttons that weren't there, so to speak.

o1s1n

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

Quick glance at its Wiki entry..........yes, yes you can. As referenced, I couldn't quite get used to the 'point&shoot' of it all; kept reaching for buttons that weren't there, so to speak.

Yeah I thought so. I didn't play RE4 until the Wii version, but definitely remember playing it with a GC controller. The idea of using the Wii's motion controls just felt wrong.

murphyebass

o1s1n wrote: »

Yeah I thought so. I didn't play RE4 until the Wii version, but definitely remember playing it with a GC controller. The idea of using the Wii's motion controls just felt wrong.

i wonder could i connect a classic controller to the wiimote and use that?

in goin to give it a go with the motion controls first and see how i get on.

any review ive watched of the wii version praises the controls so in hoping jt just takes a bit of time to get used to.

CiDeRmAn

Not me but for my son, just found the last triforce shard in Wind Waker HD and working his way to the end of this great game. I'm so proud!
Of course, now he's finished more games than I have in the last year I may have to put him up for adoption!

CiDeRmAn

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Not me but for my son, just found the last triforce shard in Wind Waker HD and working his way to the end of this great game. I'm so proud!
Of course, now he's finished more games than I have in the last year I may have to put him up for adoption!

Hooray!
He finished Wind Waker HD yesterday!
He went to school and told everyone and no one cared
What is wrong with kids these days?
Don't they recognise great games when they hear it?
Or would they rather talk about GTA V???

MrVestek

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Or would they rather talk about GTA V???

Probably too busy talking about Fifa and the latest Call of Battlecraft game.

o1s1n

Restarted Link Between Worlds under Hero mode last night.

I never replay games after just finishing them, but enjoyed this so much I can't resist a tougher version.

Shame they didn't have this option from the beginning, although I guess it's good value for money that I'm going to get another 20+ hours out of it.

Apparently there are a couple of extra little things in this mode.

Big draw though, damage taken to link is X4 in normal mode :eek:

I started off with three hearts, a fairly standard enemy ran into me (I think it was a rat) - immediately down to 1 heart. I can see there being a lot more smashing pots/scavenging for hearts in this run through.

o1s1n

CDi/3DO, same thing really aren't they? :pac:

Myrddin

o1s1n wrote: »

CDi/3DO, same thing really aren't they? :pac:

Boo! Hiss!

o1s1n

Ah, looks like I posted that in the wrong thread.

Probably for the best, hide me from Steve_SI's wrath

CiDeRmAn

o1s1n wrote: »

CDi/3DO, same thing really aren't they? :pac:

No, no they're not.
Prepare for a short sharp visit from the slap fairy!

o1s1n

Back to Illusion of Time this evening.

I've been stuck on the first boss Castoth. Kind of put the game down and refused to go back to it because it was so frustrating.

Had a go again this evening and figured out two safe spots on the screen which I'd completely missed the last times. Suddenly an impossible challenge became really manageable.

I'm liking this game a lot but my god, the translation! It's dire. Really really bad. A lot of the conversation just doesn't flow right and sounds odd. It's like they literally translated word for word without thinking about any context in what characters are saying.

Retr0gamer

Yep unfortunately anything outside of ted Wolsey era square soft stuff and Nintendo will be badly translated. I'm always amazed at how far square digressed in that area for ffvii. Enix stuff was very bad, stuff like robo trek which seemed like a loveable and quirky RPG were near ruined by their translators. Maybe it was for the best we had to wait for the DS versions of DQ5 and 6.