The cobbles are going!

thecheese

I quite like the new path...

TedB wrote: »

The revolution is in motion. The Trinity administration is vying to convert the UNI into a grotesque imitation of an American university. Modularisation, semesterisation - granite paths? What the hell is round the corner? A smoothie stall on campus? This is a disgrace and every student should be appalled by this.

Every student? What about the students who need a wheelchair and can't access certain parts of the college? Them cobbles are hard enough to walk on, never mind trying to get across them in a wheelchair!

TedB

thecheese wrote: »

I quite like the new path...

Collaborators will not be tolerated.

Mark200

TedB wrote: »

Collaborators will not be tolerated.

:rolleyes:

Bajingo

People on this forum need to get out of there boxes. Yes, front square would look horrible if completely covered by granite slabs but it's not going to be and looking at the photos it looks ok.

New buildings are going to be constructed no matter what people do or say and people need to move on and deal with it as these changes are necessary.The majority of people here must be from ballsbridge because you're all afraid of a bit of change..I think that the building looks like it will fit with the design of the arts block.

Thirdfox

People probably complained when they stopped burying dead Provost under the lawns (or have they stopped? )

The path is functional so it's about time they made it more accessible to all members of our community (that, and girls who wear high heels for Trinity Ball).

But cybertron looks iffy to say the least. Good to see that they are renovating the college though.

andrew

Bajingo wrote: »

I think that the building looks like it will fit with the design of the arts block.

You say that as if it's a good thing.

Ron DMC

TedB wrote: »

What the hell is round the corner? A smoothie stall on campus?

We had a smoothie stall in the old Buttery long before Zumo opened on Nassau Street. 2005-2006 I think it was.

Many's the hangover cure it doled out to the student populous, and low did they decree that a smoothie stall would forever be their friend and ally.

But then they got rid of it, shut the bar in the Buttery as well, and ruined everything forever.

In all fairness though, change happens, don't get hung up on a little path

Cantab.

Disaster.

What I want to know is how did these people get into power?

t0mm

Thirdfox wrote: »

cybertron

Yay my idea is catching on!!!!!!:D

snappieT

I'd love to know why this new cybertron building gets preference over finally removing the laser huts and ICT huts.

Forget a bit of granite paving, why are there portacabins permanently on campus? I thought it was a money issue, apparently not.

Boston

snappieT wrote: »

I'd love to know why this new cybertron building gets preference over finally removing the laser huts and ICT huts.

Forget a bit of granite paving, why are there portacabins permanently on campus? I thought it was a money issue, apparently not.

Planning permission.

snappieT

Boston wrote: »

Planning permission.

They could have built new computer rooms into the Moyne very easily, there is no way that amount of office space was actually needed. These new computer rooms could replace the ICT/Laser huts.

If they got planning permission to plant something right next to the exam hall, I don't see what would stop them getting permission to put up a building down the arse end of college. I would challenge any planner who denied building something that would replace 2-story portacabins.

alantc

College Green is now a bus lane!

notjim

snappieT wrote: »

I'd love to know why this new cybertron building gets preference over finally removing the laser huts and ICT huts.

Forget a bit of granite paving, why are there portacabins permanently on campus? I thought it was a money issue, apparently not.

Again, the money for this building was given specifically, in PRTLII 4, for this building. The laser huts and ICT huts are related to the teaching function of the college, which is hugely underfunded, or to other research projects which are funded out of schemes that do not support infrastructural development.

College monies are not fungible.

mathew

whats happening in the exam hall? Big construction signs on the door and lots of drilling noise...

andrew

mathew wrote: »

whats happening in the exam hall? Big construction signs on the door and lots of drilling noise...

Civil Engineering Exam?



...I'll get my coat

[Woah, 1000th Post. Wooooooooo. and it only took 2173.9 days]

Tricity Bendix

Heh. Fungible. Funny word.


I like the path. It gets the Bendix seal of approval.
They should sell any cobbles they take up to tourists/graduates.

JC 2K3

TedB wrote: »

Cobblorators will not be tolerated.

FYP.

Bajingo

andrew wrote: »

You say that as if it's a good thing.

I definietly do not like the look of the arts block.It's too UCD for my liking but all the same cybertron is built with the same style which is better than some random, clashing glass building or something.

Also, I dont know much about how the building,education or sectors within the college are funded but yes the portacabins are a descrace!

gearoidof

it looks fine, at least now front square isn't a horrible experience for the impaired.

Cantab.

That cybertron on Fellows' Square looks cheap.

All it is is a couple of floors of poured concrete with some silly looking cladding tacked on the front of it. Any Tom Dick or Harry with AutoCAD could design it in one day. Probably a Bauhausian UCD architecture graduate whose glasses are too thick and drinks far too many frappachinos.

Also, it destroys the light into the arts block and looks completely out of character. Plus, the 1937 Reading Room is going to be a nightmare to study in for the next year.

Who does one complain to about this heap of **** at this late hour?

Why can't someone do something awesome? Budgetary constraint is not an excuse. This is Trinity, Dublin.

j1smithy

Cantab. wrote: »

That cybertron on Fellows' Square looks cheap.

All it is is a couple of floors of poured concrete with some silly looking cladding tacked on the front of it. Any Tom Dick or Harry with AutoCAD could design it in one day. Probably a Bauhausian UCD architecture graduate whose glasses are too thick and drinks far too many frappachinos.

Also, it destroys the light into the arts block and looks completely out of character. Plus, the 1937 Reading Room is going to be a nightmare to study in for the next year.

Who does one complain to about this heap of **** at this late hour?

Why can't someone do something awesome? Budgetary constraint is not an excuse. This is Trinity, Dublin.

I quite like the Bauhaus school of architecture, and I think this building fits in quite well in around Fellows Square, and finally closes it. If anything its the 1937 thats out of place, and has been discussed at length on other forums (Archiseek) about how it was misplaced. Having the new building designed in modern architecture is far better than a modern interpretation of classic. It would look false and cheap. I also think its good, and Trinity has as a history of this, of promoting Irish designed buildings. At the time the college took great pride in the Museum Bldgs Irishness. The campus is a unique canvas for presenting the best of this art in Ireland. I'm far happier an Irish firm got it than say an international superstar like Norman Foster (Not that they'd be interested in such a small project).

It won't distroy the light into the arts block, its located north of it. It will probably increase the amount of light entering the building in fact through reflection. It may affect the 1937 though, but I can't recall there being much natural light in that building anyway.

Unfortunately it is too late to complain. It would be nice if the Students Union included news about infrastructure in their emails and looked for student submissions. Those models for the new buildings were down in the city council offices for months, I wonder how many students knew that? The Record and Trinity News should also have covered it.

Running Bing

mathew wrote: »

pics of the path..

You can see the different colour stone. Bear in mind it was raining so thats the colour of the stones when wet

Sh1t, why is it so big/prominent?

Personally think it ruins the aesthetic. I would've much preferred if the path was constructed up against the walls going around the two green areas at front square.


Also sorry to sound politically incorrect but given the various access options into the college just how necessary is it?

Cantab.

snappieT wrote: »

I'd love to know why this new cybertron building gets preference over finally removing the laser huts and ICT huts.

Forget a bit of granite paving, why are there portacabins permanently on campus? I thought it was a money issue, apparently not.

I'd say the lads with the portacabin contract are only too happy that the College's priorities lie elsewhere.

Cantab.

j1smithy wrote: »

I quite like the Bauhaus school of architecture, and I think this building fits in quite well in around Fellows Square, and finally closes it. If anything its the 1937 thats out of place, and has been discussed at length on other forums (Archiseek) about how it was misplaced. Having the new building designed in modern architecture is far better than a modern interpretation of classic. It would look false and cheap. I also think its good, and Trinity has as a history of this, of promoting Irish designed buildings. At the time the college took great pride in the Museum Bldgs Irishness. The campus is a unique canvas for presenting the best of this art in Ireland. I'm far happier an Irish firm got it than say an international superstar like Norman Foster (Not that they'd be interested in such a small project).

It won't distroy the light into the arts block, its located north of it. It will probably increase the amount of light entering the building in fact through reflection. It may affect the 1937 though, but I can't recall there being much natural light in that building anyway.

Unfortunately it is too late to complain. It would be nice if the Students Union included news about infrastructure in their emails and looked for student submissions. Those models for the new buildings were down in the city council offices for months, I wonder how many students knew that? The Record and Trinity News should also have covered it.

Would you ever feck off with your "Irish designed building". A computer program could design that yoke in 5 minutes.

j1smithy

mathew wrote: »

whats happening in the exam hall? Big construction signs on the door and lots of drilling noise...

I had a look in the skip when I was passing today (I'm that nosey!) It looks like they're replacing the tiles on the floor of the Exam Hall. Not before time too, they were very worn and dirty looking. Perhaps they'll dust down the cobwebs and give it a lick of paint as well!

Also new in renovation news, the houses opposite the Museum Bldg on New square are getting a facelift. Now only if they'd tackle the Western facade...

j1smithy

Running Bing wrote: »

Sh1t, why is it so big/prominent?

Personally think it ruins the aesthetic. I would've much preferred if the path was constructed up against the walls going around the two green areas at front square.


Also sorry to sound politically incorrect but given the various access options into the college just how necessary is it?

I'm afraid its very necessary. The front square buildings are ony accessable from front square and why should wheelchair bound people find that a sizeable portion of college, including accommodation, exam and records offices as well as the SU out of bounds. Although I have no experience with this I imagine it was almost impossible to navigate ones way around front square as it stands in a standard wheelchair. This being due to the small trolley wheels which are on the front of said chair. In fact until the path is completed TCD should provide adapted wheelchairs (for rent/deposit) with large front wheels until the work is completed at the security offices.

If it was only student residences on front square, there would be a strong argument for retaining the status quo as in theory a student could go 4 years without entering the square. As student services are still housed up there, I believe that a reasonable effort at providing access is the right thing to do.

Running Bing

j1smithy wrote: »

I'm afraid its very necessary. The front square buildings are ony accessable from front square and why should wheelchair bound people find that a sizeable portion of college, including accommodation, exam and records offices as well as the SU out of bounds. Although I have no experience with this I imagine it was almost impossible to navigate ones way around front square as it stands in a standard wheelchair. This being due to the small trolley wheels which are on the front of said chair. In fact until the path is completed TCD should provide adapted wheelchairs (for rent/deposit) with large front wheels until the work is completed at the security offices.

Again you make a fair point but the distance from front arch to the student union office and the exams and records office is not very great and the cobbles are not big.

I admit it is a regrettable inconvenience for wheelchair bound people but does it really warrant ripping up so much of front square?

Maybe it is indeed impossible to traverse in a wheelchair and does warrant the placing of a path but in that case surely the best option was a low key path running from front arch along the buildings to the SU/Records office?

Pet

For anyone who wants to bitch about "tradition"; most of the colleges I've seen here in Cambridge have installed tasteful wheelchair paths. And they look fine. Accessibility and antiquity are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

Podge_irl

Pet wrote: »

For anyone who wants to bitch about "tradition"; most of the colleges I've seen here in Cambridge have installed tasteful wheelchair paths. And they look fine. Accessibility and antiquity are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

I haven't been in a single one that doesn't. Most are incorporated quite nicely - the one in St. John's is especially well done I think.

I think the paving in Trinity will look fine. Having an actual path running through the square can actually help the look of it in some ways - it gives it a more definite form and actually helps emphasis how nice the cobbles look.