SUBCONSCIOUS RACISM / DISCRIMINATION

tennessee time

if its late at night and there are a group of hooded white teens on one street and a group of hooded black teens on the other and i can choose either way to walk home, am i being racist by walking down the street where the white teens are???

Jimi-Spandex

What colour are their hoods?

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

If you're in America, yes, here you're probably just being thick. The crackers would be more likely to bate ya, quality native Irish scumbags in all probability

GLaDOS

I'd take my chances with the road

easyeason3

I'd walk in the middle of the road & take my chances with the cars.

Tipsy Mac

tennessee time wrote: »

if its late at night and there are a group of hooded white teens on one street and a group of hooded black teens on the other and i can choose either way to walk home, am i being racist by walking down the street where the white teens are???

What colour are you?

TanG411

i'd probably walk down the middle of the road :pac:

But no, i don't think it's being racist.

Random

A group of black hooded teens would be unusual around Dublin IMO. Most of us tend to go with what we feel is comfortable and normal. A group of white hoodies would probably be more "normal".

I'd probably try to avoid both though depending on my humour.

My name is URL

According to experience I'd walk on the black side

I've seen more white people in fights than I have black people, in fact I don't think Ive ever seen a black person in a fight before.. or a building site

Degsy

My name is URL wrote: »

According to experience I'd walk on the black side

I've seen more white people in fights than I have black people, in fact I don't think Ive ever seen a black person in a fight before.. or a building site

Give it time..

MagicMarker

A group of black hooded teens on one side and a group of teens wearing caps and celtic jerseys on the other?

I choose tha brothas.

RonMexico

No hooded black teen has ever tried to mug me/hassle me for fags/money/no reason.

MagicMarker

My name is URL wrote: »

According to experience I'd walk on the black side

I've seen more white people in fights than I have black people, in fact I don't think Ive ever seen a black person in a fight before.. or a building site

To be fair that's hardly surprising considering you live in a predominantly white country.

shenanigans1982

WTF have hoods got to do with it....it's easier to tell a scumbag with their hood down.

I have never mugged anyone or have any intentions, rarely am I in fights and not since I was a kid have I started one....and guess what I go around with my hood up....and here's the real shocker, I do it because most of the time its cold or f*cking raining.

But hey, stereotyping makes it easier to sleep at night.

itouchmyself

Id walk by whatever side im on and say hello to them.... BOTTLER

El Siglo

Personally, I find the white hoodies worse. They are more likely to be on drugs, violent etc... I've yet to see a group of black hoodies here, it'll be another 10 to 20 years before we see such a growth in their population to be reflected in them assembling into groups of hoodies.

TanG411

shenanigans1982 wrote: »

WTF have hoods got to do with it....it's easier to tell a scumbag with their hood down.

I have never mugged anyone or have any intentions, rarely am I in fights and not since I was a kid have I started one....and guess what I go around with my hood up....and here's the real shocker, I do it because most of the time its cold or f*cking raining.

But hey, stereotyping makes it easier to sleep at night.

But the difference between a scumbag and a normal person is that scumbags wear their hoods up all the time. Fair enough if it's raining. But all the time? There's just no need

mikemac

I wear a hoodie on days like today.

It was warm so no need for a jacket but it was raining so hood up.
Hope that doesn't mean I'm a scumbag

TanG411

not if it was raining :pac:

I wear a hoodie nearly everyday. But I only use the hood if it actually rains/ snows.

Armin_Tamzarian

mikemac wrote: »

I wear a hoodie on days like today.

It was warm so no need for a jacket but it was raining so hood up.
Hope that doesn't mean I'm a scumbag

/loads shotgun

Bottle_of_Smoke

In any country other than Ireland I'd walk on the white side. Here I'd walk on the black side

Hazys

I think AH is getting more efficient, instead of getting our daily pointless hypothetical question thread and our daily racism thread, we are now combining them.

Overheal

My name is URL wrote: »

According to experience I'd walk on the black side

I've seen more white people in fights than I have black people, in fact I don't think Ive ever seen a black person in a fight before.. or a building site

That might be because blacks fight in the dark

deadhead13

Hazys wrote: »

I think AH is getting more efficient, instead of getting our daily pointless hypothetical question thread and our daily racism thread why are now combining them.

And, if only the op had just called them "scumbags" we would have got 3 for the price 1.

asdasd

No hooded black teen has ever tried to mug me/hassle me for fags/money/no reason.

Most of Ireland's blacks are immigrants. Immigrants tend to want to work. Up until a few years ago you could assume the black guy was a doctor.


So here, walk on the black side.

Hazys

One thing to be consider in this "argument" is "once you go black, you never go back"...oh now i get it

sells

get youre asses over the the "get in a car with a male and u will die" thread, now theres some form of discrimination.

K-9

tennessee time wrote: »

if its late at night and there are a group of hooded white teens on one street and a group of hooded black teens on the other and i can choose either way to walk home, am i being racist by walking down the street where the white teens are???

Depends on the country, city, area etc.

InkSlinger67

According to The Citizen's Advice Bureau you should first take out a few whiteys with your custom machete. This will attract the attention of the other group who will run to the aid of their fallen comrades. While they are in mid-stride you should drop two flash grenades from your utility belt to confuse them before finishing off the job with your chainsaw-shotgun.

At this point you should flee the scene quite quickly after leaving your usual Calling Card

:pac:< Who was that bespectacled stud?

enniscorthy

defo go with the blacks mate heeheheheheh

markopantelic

where are you london/paris? if you're in dublin you'd be making the wrong choice imo.

i live in the city centre and there'd be a few groups of black teens but there hardly prevailent and they don't act like scumbags.

orourkeda

Take a walk on the wild side

Pop's Diner

El Siglo wrote: »

Personally, I find the white hoodies worse. They are more likely to be on drugs, violent etc... I've yet to see a group of black hoodies here, it'll be another 10 to 20 years before we see such a growth in their population to be reflected in them assembling into groups of hoodies.

Agree with this. Come back to Dublin in 20 years time and you'll see a different story, but for now avoid the white hoodies at all costs. The black guys now are fine , but their sons will probably be a different matter.

Eire Go Brach

tennessee time wrote: »

if its late at night and there are a group of hooded white teens on one street and a group of hooded black teens on the other and i can choose either way to walk home, am i being racist by walking down the street where the white teens are???

Wait till your daughter/son comes home with one of them lads:) Then decide. Seriously man its Ireland. I suggest to you, to go and make some non white friends. Go on ya mad thing go mad and live a little.

Dutchie_in_DUB

This sounds to me as pure ignorance as when one does not know any black people or grew up with the stereotypical idea that all blacks are criminals and violent (which is nonsense), sure you then you will fear it.
How often do you read bout blacks doing criminal activities from mugging to murder? And I am talking bout Ireland.. Read some news papers and get some statistics, then try again to fuel hatred for someone's colour..

AnonoBoy

I'd just get the two groups together and introduce them and get them to start trading stories about their lives and stuff and broaden their horizons and get them to start y'know start hanging out with each other and stuff and then we wouldn't have such a prejudiced thread about young black lads and white lads in hoodies, it'd just be a thread about young lads in hoodies.

And then I'd have solved racism and while the black lads and the white lads were having the craic with each other on one of the streets I'd leg it home down the other.

G'night people!

Claregirl

Out walking earlier my daughter said she fancied a "wog". :eek:

I nearly had a stroke and was about to tell her off for being racist till she explained she was too energetic to walk and too tired to jog so she was going to have a "wog" instead!

Everyone is so caught up on being "PC" it's crazy. People are people regardless of colour, religion etc. Some are good and some are "scumbags" personally I'd walk on the side of the street where the "hoodies" aren't armed!!;)

jackbutler

ScienceNerd wrote: »

I'd take my chances with the road

Me too, happily.

DubMedic

tennessee time wrote: »

if its late at night and there are a group of hooded white teens on one street and a group of hooded black teens on the other and i can choose either way to walk home, am i being racist by walking down the street where the white teens are???

Depends really, if the white hooded teens look like this :

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Politics/Images/ku-klux-klan-salute.jpg

Then I'd take my chances with the latter route.

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K-9

Pop's Diner wrote: »

Agree with this. Come back to Dublin in 20 years time and you'll see a different story, but for now avoid the white hoodies at all costs. The black guys now are fine , but their sons will probably be a different matter.

YEP, The white hoodies will probably drag the black hoodies down to their level. Suppose that is what racism does, it makes the victims racist and hence the viscious circle.

tennessee time

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

Wait till your daughter/son comes home with one of them lads:) Then decide. Seriously man its Ireland. I suggest to you, to go and make some non white friends. Go on ya mad thing go mad and live a little.

first of all what??? where did it say in the post that i dont have non white friends?? the post was about people being subconsciosly discriminatory which imo EVERYONE IS, they just dont verbalise the discrimiation,

Dutchie_in_DUB wrote: »

This sounds to me as pure ignorance as when one does not know any black people or grew up with the stereotypical idea that all blacks are criminals and violent (which is nonsense), sure you then you will fear it.
How often do you read bout blacks doing criminal activities from mugging to murder? And I am talking bout Ireland.. Read some news papers and get some statistics, then try again to fuel hatred for someone's colour..

how was the post pure ignorance?? i wasnt making any assumption about either group it was an example, i could have said i chose the street where the black teens in hoodies were , but i was giving an example of subconscious discrimination and asking was it racist in peoples opinion??

how was i fuelling hatred?? seriously wtf ??

basically i was just making the point that we all make subconscious decisions that if we had to justify/ verbalise/ discuss would appear racist/ discrimatory/ sexist. there are lots of other examples - choosing a female childminder over a male childminder , picking the white person last in a game of basketball etc....

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I'd just get the two groups together and introduce them and get them to start trading stories about their lives and stuff and broaden their horizons and get them to start y'know start hanging out with each other and stuff and then we wouldn't have such a prejudiced thread about young black lads and white lads in hoodies, it'd just be a thread about young lads in hoodies.

And then I'd have solved racism and while the black lads and the white lads were having the craic with each other on one of the streets I'd leg it home down the other.

G'night people!

i dont think it was a prejudiced thread if you actually read it but i guess if you actually read it you couldnt chip in with your useless two cents...

K-9

tennessee time wrote: »

first of all what??? where did it say in the post that i dont have non white friends?? the post was about people being subconsciosly discriminatory which imo EVERYONE IS, they just dont verbalise the discrimiation,





how was the post pure ignorance?? i wasnt making any assumption about either group it was an example, i could have said i chose the street where the black teens in hoodies were , but i was giving an example of subconscious discrimination and asking was it racist in peoples opinion??

how was i fuelling hatred?? seriously wtf ??

basically i was just making the point that we all make subconscious decisions that if we had to justify/ verbalise/ discuss would appear racist/ discrimatory/ sexist. there are lots of other examples - choosing a female childminder over a male childminder , picking the white person last in a game of basketball etc....






i dont think it was a prejudiced thread if you actually read it but i guess if you actually read it you couldnt chip in with your useless two cents...

I'd largely agree with you on that. The Minister, a poster here, had a nice link on it that I read a few days ago. Can't for the life of me find it.

Basically, a black taxi driver discriminated against blacks in certain areas. Was that racist?

brendansmith

tennessee time wrote: »

if its late at night and there are a group of hooded white teens on one street and a group of hooded black teens on the other and i can choose either way to walk home, am i being racist by walking down the street where the white teens are???

Yes you are. You should turn yourself in immediately befor you strike again

NME

minidazzler

TWO Paths diverged on an Irish road,
And sorry I could not travel another way
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where lads stood with big white hoods

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them hoods that were black , 10

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back. 15

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that was the one with the black hoods.



Slightly changed, I would take the one with the Black lads, they are far nicer and generally more courteous. I only know one black scumbag, and he is whiter than me in the way he acts.

markopantelic

yeah they'd be doing well to be worse than the more 'native' scumbag. obviously there are scumbags in all walks of life but in dublin in 2009, i'd wager that they are not black teens by and large.

Seaneh

In Ireland?

I'm rocking down the side the Brothers are on, no contest.

Odds are that they are first/second generation immigrants who's parents are fairly strict (I know a fair few young African kids and all their parents are strict and as a result the kids are well behaved) and their kids might look sketchy but are far less likely to mug you than a group of James, Joe, Davie and Peters from across the road.

Karl Hungus

Subconscious racism? Nah, I make sure all my racism is conscious.

Doc

tennessee time wrote: »

if its late at night and there are a group of hooded white teens on one street and a group of hooded black teens on the other and i can choose either way to walk home, am i being racist by walking down the street where the white teens are???

Sounds like youve stubled into a race war... if you hang on another couple of minutes for the Asian (Thank you, Please) and Latino (Ola bitches) gangs to rock up!

RACE WAR! Yay!

eddiehead

Are the white teens wearing Abercrombie hoodies or Fred Perry hoodies?

If they're Abercrombie I'll stick with the blacks

chin_grin

See this is the thing. You think you're not a racist but....

That stand up comedian Doug Stanhope has a good bit on it. He's talking about how he goes in to a McDonalds and sees a black kid behind the counter, happy and joking about and immediately thinks "it's good that he has a job and is off the streets".

But if it was a white kid he'd think "why the hell are you happy about you work at McDonalds".......

Degsy

asdasd wrote: »

Most of Ireland's blacks are immigrants. Immigrants tend to want to work

Lol!