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Is this a way to scam out of paying a tv license

stevoman

this debate is going on in work so i have decided to pick the AH brains (could be a mistake).

The question is - If you were to have and english sky box for example that does not have the RTE channels and you were to run the box off a computer screen and not a TV woudl you technically be exempt from having to pay a television license?

The way i see it is TV have the potentiel to pick up RTE as a terestrial channel through the aerial so thats why the say they can hit you with a TV license. But if you were using a computer screen would you not have to pay it.

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Ponster

Helix wrote: »

a pc is sufficient to require a license

I don't believe that.

A quick read of the Wireless Telegraphy Act, 1926 suggests this :

"station" means wireless telegraphy apparatus, including any aerials and the wires connected to the service points served by the apparatus, used solely for the purpose of relaying television programmes or television programmes and sound programmes and any apparatus associated with the apparatus aforesaid;

Helix

Eugene Polite Fossil wrote: »

Yes they do, if they have a tuning card, they will need a licence...

they dont need a tuning card any more

a pc is sufficient to require a license

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

dimejinky99 wrote: »

Computer monitors do not need a licence..that's one way around it. Lotta people I know use these as they're TVs.

Yes they do, if they have a tuning card, they will need a licence...

I have a licence, but only because one of them dudes came to the door. Moving house in a few months, I won't be buying another until the knock on the door again

nayorleck114

stevoman wrote: »

this debate is going on in work so i have decided to pick the AH brains (could be a mistake).

The question is - If you were to have and english sky box for example that does not have the RTE channels and you were to run the box off a computer screen and not a TV woudl you technically be exempt from having to pay a television license?

The way i see it is TV have the potentiel to pick up RTE as a terestrial channel through the aerial so thats why the say they can hit you with a TV license. But if you were using a computer screen would you not have to pay it.

It won't stand up in court. Friends of mine who did not have a TV (they were americans) were brought to court to PAY licence for TV, but they did no have one, but the house had an old dish. The landlord had to testify they did no have a TV(they actually didn't) They used to watch news on computer via internet but not via box, as they said the Irish channels were crap and no point paying for a licence to see 2 channels.

Personally I think the Licence is worthless, I pay it because I have a TV. But I rarely watch RTE.

mickdw

Id put the €160 towards a court challenge to this stupid law. Now, if another 1,000 or so people would do the same, we could get an hour in the high court.

Joey the lips

Yeah.. Watch tele from prision!

stepbar

jenzz wrote: »

i got a card in the door last year - we observed a tv in your property... nosy sod was down on his hunkers looking under the blinds,,,,

my excuse this year - i cant afford.. plain & simple; take me to court for 160 bloody euro

....and be fined and forced to pay the licence anyhow. Smart idea :rolleyes:

Is it that hard to save 3 odd eur a week and put it into a pot?

Helix

dimejinky99 wrote: »

Computer monitors do not need a licence..that's one way around it. Lotta people I know use these as they're TVs.

yes they do

they changed it earlier this year

if you own ANYTHING capable of receiving television signals (tv, computer, mobile with tv tuner etc) you need a license

jenzz

i got a card in the door last year - we observed a tv in your property... nosy sod was down on his hunkers looking under the blinds,,,,

my excuse this year - i cant afford.. plain & simple; take me to court for 160 bloody euro

Mossy Monk

If you can receive tv from the UK terrestrially that is.

ScumLord

allthedoyles wrote: »

A tv licence can now be obtained by Direct Debit costing €13 per month.

This is way cheaper than Sky and imo better value too.

You just add up the number of actual sky channnels you regularly watch on Sky digi and you may find that terrestrial tv is a better option.

There may be up to 900 sky channels , but we done our own little survey and discover that we only actually watch the folowing
BBC 1

Chanel 4

Sky News

Discovery

Fox News

MTV

So in our case , paying the tv licence is more value for money than subscribing to sky

You'll only get two of those channels on terrestrial.

Paparazzo

kmick wrote: »

Theres a very simple way to avoid the television license man - dont answer the door. If you dont answer the door they can send reminders to "the resident" but unfortunately "the resident" is not recognised by any court in any country (excluding Zambia and Mannon).

Its as simple as that.

They actually wait till you leave your house and nab you. If a stranger comes up to you as you leave your house and asks if you have a TV, say no. They caught my mate completely off guard.
Now if you have an apartment with a secure gate and locked doors to get into the actual building I don't think you have any chance in hell of getting caught.
Imagine him ringing on the intercom.
"this is the tv licence inspector, do you have a television set?"
"ehhh, yeah. I mean no"

994

ScumLord wrote: »

"I don't live here" continue on your way out the door. Just don't look back.

I find a warning shot usually works. Just use blanks the first time they come, live rounds the next time. Maybe one in the leg if they persist. "Celebrity Jigs n Reels" ... my God, there should be a trial in the Hague over that.

Hangsangwich

I dont see why the taxpaying public have to prop up rte. why are people like ryan tubridy and pat kenny on such huge salaries?would it reallycost so muc and the level of quality programming from rte is pityful.Rte are over-staffed, its a case of jobs for the D4 boys and girls

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allthedoyles wrote: »

A tv licence can now be obtained by Direct Debit costing €13 per month.

This is way cheaper than Sky and imo better value too.

You just add up the number of actual sky channnels you regularly watch on Sky digi and you may find that terrestrial tv is a better option.

There may be up to 900 sky channels , but we done our own little survey and discover that we only actually watch the folowing
BBC 1

Chanel 4

Sky News

Discovery

Fox News

MTV

So in our case , paying the tv licence is more value for money than subscribing to sky

What on earth are you talking about? You have to pay the licence whether you have sky or not.

Overheal

then itll be PCs, laptops, 3G Phones

they could always just **** off and add a tax on electronics if theyre that ****ing poor.

AckwelFoley

dannym08 wrote: »

fight the power!!

how much is the average european court case these days....

not alot if you get one off the euro saver menu

My name is URL

allthedoyles wrote: »

but we done our own little survey and discover that we only actually watch the folowing
BBC 1

Chanel 4

Sky News

Discovery

Fox News

MTV

Oh gawd

An Ard Ri

stevoman wrote: »

this debate is going on in work so i have decided to pick the AH brains (could be a mistake).

The question is - If you were to have and english sky box for example that does not have the RTE channels and you were to run the box off a computer screen and not a TV woudl you technically be exempt from having to pay a television license?

The way i see it is TV have the potentiel to pick up RTE as a terestrial channel through the aerial so thats why the say they can hit you with a TV license. But if you were using a computer screen would you not have to pay it.

I believe the only way to get around this is, to say to that you are repairing the TV for someone. That is providing you don't have an NTL connection (as that is where an Post gets its info). Apparently you dont have to have a licence to repair a TV and there is nothing that can be done. I guy i used work with is from Ballymun, and he said that this excuse was used loads of times in that area.

Hangsangwich

if i ever get done for not having a tv license I will bring the case to the European Court of Justice and get this piece of antiquated anti-competitive legislation overruled

allthedoyles

A tv licence can now be obtained by Direct Debit costing €13 per month.

This is way cheaper than Sky and imo better value too.

You just add up the number of actual sky channnels you regularly watch on Sky digi and you may find that terrestrial tv is a better option.

There may be up to 900 sky channels , but we done our own little survey and discover that we only actually watch the folowing

BBC 1
Chanel 4
Sky News
Discovery
Fox News
MTV

So in our case , paying the tv licence is more value for money than subscribing to sky

G_R

Hangsangwich wrote: »

if I ever get done for not having a tv license, I will bring the case to the European Court of Justice. It is an anti-competitive law.

fight the power!!

how much is the average european court case these days....

Hangsangwich

if I ever get done for not having a tv license, I will bring the case to the European Court of Justice. It is an anti-competitive law.

AckwelFoley

you dont even need a tv to get fined for not having a licence, an ariel or dish will suffice.

G_R

have you not seen the add??
they've heard all the excuses and none of them work:D

Mossy Monk

KerranJast wrote: »

I wasn't aware that a Sky Box on it's own can tune in analogue TV signals. Any one I've seen has no coaxial connectors and so cannot be connect to a TV aerial. The only way I thought Sky could receive RTE was via a satellite.

Who said anything about analogue television signals?

KerranJast

I wasn't aware that a Sky Box on it's own can tune in analogue TV signals. Any one I've seen has no coaxial connectors and so cannot be connect to a TV aerial. The only way I thought Sky could receive RTE was via a satellite.

okioffice84

Greenmachine wrote: »

ffs talk about nonsense. Say you are getting ready to go out for some reason. It does happen. Knock at the door. I'm not expecting anyone. What do I do, answers the door on my way out or hide behind the sofa.

Well, it's worked for me for the last 15 odd years, so I've saved about €2,400 and I've never hid behind a sofa

JimmyCrackCorn!

Yes

Dont have a tv.

Simple!

General Zod

Dinter wrote: »

Note the bit about PC's!! :mad:

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/consumer-affairs/media/tv_licences

"You do not require a television licence to watch television on your computer or mobile phone. However, you do require a licence if the computer is used together with any other apparatus to receive a signal."

Unless you have a TV card in your PC, you won't be required to get a TV licence to view RTE's webplayer.