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  • 10-07-2009 10:49am
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    walshb
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    http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0710/comminss.html

    I wonder if this was a black woman kidnapped would we hear
    a peep from the world. This is now big news everywhere
    with convoys flying here and there to secure a release.

    These people aren't wanted in these countries, causing more bloody
    harm than good.


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    shenanigans1982
    Registered Users Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982


    Wasn't there a black woman kidnapped too?


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    cosmic
    Registered Users Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭cosmic


    one of them is black!

    fail...

    Edit: oh, beaten to it!


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    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,912 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    shenanigans1982 wrote: »
    Wasn't there a black woman kidnapped too?

    Yes, but my point is that had that been just a black woman or two black women, it wouldn't have even made the news. The fact that it was a white western woman TOO, was why we have all this hype surrounding it.


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    cosmic
    Registered Users Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭cosmic


    walshb wrote: »
    The fact that it was a white western woman, was why we have all this hype surrounding it.

    I think the fact that we have all this hype is because we're Irish and so is she!


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    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,322 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    This is Ireland. An Irish woman was kidnapped in a foriegn country while trying to help improve the living conditions of the people living there. Of course it's news.


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    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    It's up/down there with the news coverage of three Texans refused entry to Ireland zomg.

    And still no-one has heard of Marwa al-Sherbini, a pregnant woman stabbed 18 times in a German court room (mind that's not in Ireland but big news to me anyway).


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    javaboy
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    The palm bone's connected to the ...face bone!


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    Bobeagleburger
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    It doesn't matter if they're black or white.





    *EDIT sh1t, wrong thread


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    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,912 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    super_furry wrote: »
    This is Ireland. An Irish woman was kidnapped in a foriegn country while trying to help improve the living conditions of the people living there. Of course it's news.

    And how do they thank her? They kidnap her:rolleyes:

    Like I said, these people are causing conflict in these countries


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    WindSock
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    Glad to hear they have been found safe and well. It must have been terrifying for them.


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    carlybabe1
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    walshb wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0710/comminss.html

    I wonder if this was a black woman kidnapped would we hear
    a peep from the world. This is now big news everywhere
    with convoys flying here and there to secure a release.

    These people aren't wanted in these countries, causing more bloody
    harm than good.


    Ah I see, so, this women goes over there, shes an IRISH AID worker, she helps the civillians, but its still HER FAULT that shes kidnapped by extremist?????

    And we heard more than a peep when a black woman was imprisoned FOR SMUGGLING DRUGS, it was all over the news, were you asleep that week?????

    Intelligent post :rolleyes:


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    ejmaztec
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    Whatever happened to the Germans kidnapped in the Yemen a few weeks ago? Nothing much, if anything, in the news since.


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    0ubliette
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    walshb wrote: »
    Yes, but my point is that had that been just a black woman or two black women, it wouldn't have even made the news. The fact that it was a white western woman TOO, was why we have all this hype surrounding it.

    of course we wouldnt care, didnt you get the memo? All Irish are racist now and we dont give a toss about the nig nogs


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    carlybabe1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭carlybabe1


    walshb wrote: »
    And how do they thank her? They kidnap her:rolleyes:

    Like I said, these people are causing conflict in these countries


    Such BUL*****E!!!!! The conflict is there already, these people are there for the civillians, you know, to HELP the men women and kids that are affected by the conflict..:mad:........


    Oh wait, Sorry, only just twigged this is a joke thread...:o:o:o sorry:o:o:o


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    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,912 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    carlybabe1 wrote: »
    Ah I see, so, this women goes over there, shes an IRISH AID worker, she helps the civillians, but its still HER FAULT that shes kidnapped by extremist?????

    And we heard more than a peep when a black woman was imprisoned FOR SMUGGLING DRUGS, it was all over the news, were you asleep that week?????

    Intelligent post :rolleyes:
    Did I say it was her fault. I said this is how they thank her and her help.
    The aid workers in these countries are causing more trouble than they are solving.
    The conflict may have always been there, but the western interference isn't helping


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    ejmaztec
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    0ubliette wrote: »
    of course we wouldnt care, didnt you get the memo? All Irish are racist now and we dont give a toss about the nig nogs

    Yep, all that Concern money is only getting as far as a casino in Monaco.


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    Dinter
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    walshb wrote: »
    And how do they thank her? They kidnap her:rolleyes:

    Like I said, these people are causing conflict in these countries

    They kidnapped her for money.

    This is not a political statement on their part against charity workers. These guys don't give a shit about their neighbours improving their lots. They'll always have enough of everything because they've got the weapons to steal it. Their idea of a free and fair disbursement of food and resources is to take what they want.

    The people causing conflict in Darfur are the militias that the Sudanese government are turning loose on the people forced through circumstances to live there.

    It's easy to condemn foreign charity workers when you're not dependent on them for food.


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    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,912 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Dinter wrote: »
    They kidnapped her for money.

    This is not a political statement on their part against charity workers. These guys don't give a shit about their neighbours improving their lots. They'll always have enough of everything because they've got the weapons to steal it. Their idea of a free and fair disbursement of food and resources is to take what they want.

    The people causing conflict in Darfur are the militias that the Sudanese government are turning loose on the people forced through circumstances to live there.

    It's easy to condemn foreign charity workers when you're not dependent on them for food.

    Dinter, valid point. It just seems to me that their "charity" work is causing issues and conflict
    too. Many are not wanted and are resented for being there and this is causing further problems


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    Quazzie
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    shenanigans1982 wrote: »
    Wasn't there a black woman kidnapped too?
    Where does it say the Ugandan woman was black?

    Are we all racist enough to assume there can't be a white person from Uganda


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    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,912 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Where does it say the Ugandan woman was black?

    Are we all racist enough to assume there can't be a white person from Uganda

    It doesn't state if she was black. There is a picture of her.

    My point is that if two BLACK workers were kidnapped and non westerners,
    I doubt it would make any news.

    BTW, why would it be racist to assume a person from Uganda is more than likely black and
    not white?


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    cosmic
    Registered Users Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭cosmic


    walshb wrote: »
    It doesn't state if she was black. There is a picture of her.

    Her picture was on the news. Jeez...


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    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,912 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    cosmic wrote: »
    Her picture was on the news. Jeez...

    I know, but she's lucky, had there not been a western white woman with her, nobody
    would have a clue


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    shenanigans1982
    Registered Users Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Where does it say the Ugandan woman was black?

    Are we all racist enough to assume there can't be a white person from Uganda

    Assuming she is black makes me a racist? I hadn't seen a picture of the Irish woman kidnapped until earlier on but I would have assumed she was white....would that make me a racist or would I just be playing the odds?

    Besides the worst it could make me is an ass.


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    Quazzie
    Registered Users Posts: 28,870 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    walshb wrote: »
    It doesn't state if she was black. There is a picture of her.
    I must have it blocked or something all I can see in that article is a blonde white woman.
    walshb wrote: »
    IMy point is that if two BLACK workers were kidnapped and non westerners,
    I doubt it would make any news.
    How would it have any bearing on Irish News reporting if two women from another country with no direct links to anyone here, went missing? Its reported because she is Irish, not white. Do you think if she was a black Irish person the news wouldn't report it?
    walshb wrote: »
    BTW, why would it be racist to assume a person from Uganda is more than likely black and
    not white?
    Because you are assuming someone skin colour based on their country of birth.


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    FlutterinBantam
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    A few salient points if I may.

    The reason this is getting so much publicity is that the woman is IRISH and we are in Ireland,hence it's news.

    I doubt if it's getting too much media time in France Italy Sweden etc.

    I am rather interested in John O'Shea's apparent attitude, for a man who constantly berated the Irish Govt. and govts. around the globe he now seems to be best buddies with the Irish Foreign affairs people.

    While not doubting his motives he seems to me to be trying to hunt with the hounds and run with the hare on this one.
    That is, berate the people in power with a undisciplined barrage of fire and then run to them when something goes wrong.

    Sounds a bit incongruous and hypocritical to this poster.


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    cosmic
    Registered Users Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭cosmic


    walshb wrote: »
    I know, but she's lucky, had there not been a western white woman with her, nobody
    would have a clue

    Lucky for her there was so! :pac:


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    Dinter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Dinter


    walshb wrote: »
    I know, but she's lucky, had there not been a western white woman with her, nobody
    would have a clue

    If the news took into account every single incident of violence that happens to every single person in the world each bulletin would take about 12 weeks.


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    Quazzie
    Registered Users Posts: 28,870 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    walshb wrote: »
    I know, but she's lucky, had there not been a western white woman with her, nobody in Ireland
    would have a clue

    FYP

    I'm pretty sure the Ugandan and Sudanese press would still report it.


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    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,912 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I understand fully that because she is Irish and was kidnapped that it will make news here.
    I just think also, that the fact she's a western and white woman, that this is hyped and that had she been an aid worker, black and African, NO news would have reported it.

    It's not just in Ireland that this is being dished out!


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    Dinter
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    I can't say I see what's hyped about it.

    Irish woman kidnapped. People hope she's returned.


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