double barrel sur- names

mirror mirror

where my kids go to school ,i've noticed the popularity of this double barrel sur-names emerging.is this a new craze for some people ,is it a step up the society ladder in their eyes. is it bul?????? .we're all in same sort of jobs [for now],same type of houses,nothing exceptional about any of us ,so where did this bull???? comefrom...................any opinions;):o:p:pac::D:D:D:D:D

4zn76tysfajdxp

They're not too bad, but repititive double-barrelled usernames are the worst. Why do you need to say your own name twice?

YT

Sometimes it might because baby daddy is different and they want the children to have the same name?
Like if one child was John Smith, and the mam is with the second child's father now it could be Jack Smith-Bloggs.

wudangclan

mirror mirror wrote: »

,so where did this bull???? comefrom...................any opinions

womens lib

Maddison

I dont know but I think It might also have something to do with parents not being married when the children are born, I was going to give my son both our surnames but I hated my own so I just let him have his dads.

Tefral

Maddison wrote: »

I dont know but I think It might also have something to do with parents not being married when the children are born, I was going to give my son both our surnames but I hated my own so I just let him have his dads.

Thats the main reason for it i think...

Schism

Maddison wrote: »

I dont know but I think It might also have something to do with parents not being married when the children are born, I was going to give my son both our surnames but I hated my own so I just let him have his dads.

Yep, I'd say that's it for the most part but it wouldn't surprise me if some people do it for no apparent reason too.

upmeath

Apparently the number of women holding on to their surnames is tailing off, there was an article in the Irish Independent about this on Tuesday last. So I'm guessing in years to come we'll see the trend fall. And then it'll come back with a boom in 15 or 20 years. It's just whatever's seen as the thing to do at the time, these kids in school with your kids were born 6 or 7 years ago when women were clinging tightly to their family names. In the last 4 or 5 years it's been a lesser occurrence, even less so today.

Dennis the Stone

I had a teacher like that. It's kind of weird, women that take on a double barreled name to emphasise that they are keeping their social status and are still independent in their own right. Because they usually go through the whole pathetic marriage ceremony in a church; the white dress for purity, being given away by daddy, the authority of the priest etc.

Ollchailin

This might seem like a very strange thing to say but-

I'm a teacher and pretty much 90% of those that I teach with double-barrel surnames are a pain in the arse. I don't know what it is- whether they're coming from a strained background (bad relationship between parents), or their parents are putting pressure on them not to be tied down to one title and to express themselves freely or some such thing.

All I know is that I try and be open minded at the start of the year and think "oh maybe this one will be ok, seems nice, etc".... then BAM they turn out to be a pain. And can I just point out I'm not saying they're ALL like that, and there are plenty with just one surname who I find hard to teach- it's just a lot of those with double barrel surnames happen to be tough to teach. Not totally sure why, just my experience.

g5fd6ow0hseima

I dont believe in a women taking a mans surname in marriage - utter bollox! but at least give the kid one or the other....

Ollchailin

Oh and if I ever do get married (and this may never be an issue for me anyway!) I'd take my husband's surname. I wouldn't feel like I was being submissive to men, I just think it's nice that you become a family with one name when you get married- as in even if you never have kids, you and him are a family.

Then again, I'm sure there are those who'd ask why does a family only have to have one name, what's a family these days etc. It's a funny one.

Jeebus

Bloody feminists feminising this thread up.

Your either born with a man's surname, which you cannot choose (your fathers), or you can choose to take a man's family name (your husbands).

Its a load of balls. Devote your time to caring about something more important.

aDeener

Jeebus wrote: »

Bloody feminists feminising this thread up.

Your either born with a man's surname, which you cannot choose (your fathers), or you can choose to take a man's family name (your husbands).

Its a load of balls. Devote your time to caring about something more important.

like doing the dishes!

ejmaztec

Alannah Eager Flood wrote: »

I dont believe in a women taking a mans surname in marriage - utter bollox! but at least give the kid one or the other....

What's Fritzl got to do with this?

Abi

My surname is DB'd. Wheres the problem exactly? Some people get annoyed by the stupidest things tbpfh.

trad

The reason they are becoming prominent is that up to recent years you couldn't use both parents names. When our first child (now 21) was born we were infromed by the registrar that we could not use my wifes name as a surname in conjunction with mine. We got around it by using my wifes surname as a second name and it was acceptable. It still reads Mary Smith Jones (not her real name) and my kids are proud of it. They don't use is every day but it's there and recogintion of their mother.

Quazzie

I know a girl who is an only child and she is pregnant. She wants to give ehr child a double barrell name because it is the only chance her mother and father have of keeping the family name going, because she has no siblings. For me that is the only acceptable reason to inflist the stigma of a double barrell name on a child.

ejmaztec

Abigayle wrote: »

My surname is DB'd. Wheres the problem exactly? Some people get annoyed by the stupidest things tbpfh.

Is your name Abigayle Abi-Gayle?

misslt

When/if I get married I'll take a double barrelled name cos there's no-one else in our family with the name, ie, none of my grandfathers grandkids will have it.

I'd just like to keep it on

KeyLimePie

Ireland used to be full of double-barrel first names now it's full of double- surnames.........times are changing. tim dan murphy-fitzpatrick

marbar

god i can't stand double barrels. i understand why kids have them, but it just sounds so stupid

as a matter of interest, what way would this work out in irish schools? you are either ó or ni (my computer wont put a fada on the i)
which is it with double barrels?
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never thought of that

Quazzie

marbar wrote: »

god i can't stand double barrels. i understand why kids have them, but it just sounds so stupid

as a matter of interest, what way would this work out in irish schools? you are either ó or ni (my computer wont put a fada on the i)
which is it with double barrels?
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never thought of that

isn't that got do with the sex of the child rather than the surname.

gmf1024

There's a solicitor out there with a TREBLE barrelled name. I saw it on the notepaper.

marbar

Quazzie wrote: »

isn't that got do with the sex of the child rather than the surname.

yeah true. it'll make no difference!

Dennis the Stone

Ross Turnbull Bottomley Worthington and sons

K4t

Double-barrelled names are ghey.

Edit: Perfect timing, BMD.

evogirl

im sorry now i didnt give my son a double barreled surname. he uses his dads surname and we split up couple of years ago. :mad:

marbar

evogirl wrote: »

im sorry now i didnt give my son a double barreled surname. he uses his dads surname and we split up couple of years ago. :mad:

can't you get it changed if he lives with you?


if i have a child with someone (it will definitely be with someone that i have the intention of staying with) and they don't want to use my name, i would take that as an indication that they don't think it's going to last and are hedging their bets. that would be a hell of a put off

jumpguy

Lilah Unimportant Skulduggery wrote: »

They're not too bad, but repititive double-barrelled usernames are the worst. Why do you need to say your own name twice?

Ha. Tom Tom-Tom. :pac:

On a more sober note bureaucrats hate long names. They often don't fit on forms where you have to fill out your name in block letters.

evogirl

marbar wrote: »

can't you get it changed if he lives with you?


if i have a child with someone (it will definitely be with someone that i have the intention of staying with) and they don't want to use my name, i would take that as an indication that they don't think it's going to last and are hedging their bets. that would be a hell of a put off

afaik i can only get it changed with his(dad) consent and he wont agree to it.

well at the time we were planning our child i thought we'd be staying together. thats the reason i didnt have my surname put on the birth cert but things/people change.

fun4a11

Spanish surnames FTW
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_naming_customs

A lot of people in my School had them (private School) and I never really think twice about them but I can see a problem down the line like just say to people get married with double barrel surnames and they both what to pass on their surnames to their children will their children's surname be quadruple or will they just take their Grandfathers surnames?

I myself have my mothers maiden name as my middle name but it also could be a a first name so it could look like I have a double barrel surname when I have my full name written out but I have never use it.

marbar

evogirl wrote: »

afaik i can only get it changed with his(dad) consent and he wont agree to it.

well at the time we were planning our child i thought we'd be staying together. thats the reason i didnt have my surname put on the birth cert but things/people change.

yeah that's the crux of it i guess. it's just that if someone mentioned a db to me i'd think they'd already given up! rather than just being practical...

friend of mine gave his child the mother's name in case they broke up. they duly did

bnagrrl

BigMentalDisease wrote: »

I had a teacher like that. It's kind of weird, women that take on a double barreled name to emphasise that they are keeping their social status and are still independent in their own right. Because they usually go through the whole pathetic marriage ceremony in a church; the white dress for purity, being given away by daddy, the authority of the priest etc.

White dresses have nothing to do with purity. Blue is historically the colour of purity.
White dresses are, traditionally, about showing how extravagantly wealthy you are, that you can afford a dress you can only wear once because of its style and colour. White not being as easily cleaned as it is nowadays.

mink_man

tiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnkers

Dennis the Stone

bnagrrl wrote: »

White dresses have nothing to do with purity. Blue is historically the colour of purity.
White dresses are, traditionally, about showing how extravagantly wealthy you are, that you can afford a dress you can only wear once because of its style and colour. White not being as easily cleaned as it is nowadays.

Well in the context of marriage ceremonies, churches hold up white dresses as symbols of purity. Wouldn't be the first time churches found their own meanings. Although nowadays, it seems to be less about that.

By the way, I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying that the majority of people today imagine the white dress as a sign of purity, especially in America. They're not aware of the traditional colour of purity.

SUNGOD

where does it end?
if two people with double barrel surnames have a kid will they child have a four barrell name?

parents, ryan-dalton + jones-shepard .....child=ryan-dalton-jones-shepard!!!!!

now if this child(when they are of legal age) has a kid with another four barreller...you can see where im going with this

Black Swan

Only two surnames may be the exception in many Latin American countries. I met one lad from Chile and I had to take a breath while reciting his complete name!;)

Mahou

Robin Cars-Mann

Abi

ejmaztec wrote: »

Is your name Abigail Abi-Gail?

The two names are completely different

Xavi6

Always associated double barrel surnames with south Dublin ****. Must be due to Ross O'Carroll-Kelly

Firetrap

trad wrote: »

The reason they are becoming prominent is that up to recent years you couldn't use both parents names. When our first child (now 21) was born we were infromed by the registrar that we could not use my wifes name as a surname in conjunction with mine. We got around it by using my wifes surname as a second name and it was acceptable. It still reads Mary Smith Jones (not her real name) and my kids are proud of it. They don't use is every day but it's there and recogintion of their mother.

I know someone who had to do that with their kids. They do use the double-barrelled surname though even though the first part of it is technically speaking a forename. The wife in the family kept her own surname when she got married.

Dennis the Stone

I know the best name of all time. I saw it in a Sherlock Holmes Story. It's so awesome I don't think I can bring myself to type it. It's what names should be like, very classy and distinguished.

Edit: It's not a double barreled name at all. It's just a name, but it's still the best name ever.

NanoLion3

I have a Double barreled surname, I have to use my dads cause thats what he put on the my passport:rolleyes: and my mam kept her own surname when she got married but it didn't last long:( so to be fair to both parents I use both even though my mam says I should use my dads instead but I do it to keep them both happy and I like my double barreled surname:D

Eire-Dearg

I don't know anyone with a double barreled name.

Rural Ireland FTW!

foxy06

I gave my kids a double barreled surname cos we were not married at the time. I have a cool surname though and his is really plain so the kids have a pretty cool name now. I wouldn't call them Mary O'Sullivan Connolly for example but if a double barrel sounds cool why not?

rainbowtrout

Ollchailin wrote: »

This might seem like a very strange thing to say but-

I'm a teacher and pretty much 90% of those that I teach with double-barrel surnames are a pain in the arse. I don't know what it is- whether they're coming from a strained background (bad relationship between parents), or their parents are putting pressure on them not to be tied down to one title and to express themselves freely or some such thing.

All I know is that I try and be open minded at the start of the year and think "oh maybe this one will be ok, seems nice, etc".... then BAM they turn out to be a pain. And can I just point out I'm not saying they're ALL like that, and there are plenty with just one surname who I find hard to teach- it's just a lot of those with double barrel surnames happen to be tough to teach. Not totally sure why, just my experience.

yep, almost every child I've ever taught with a double barrell surname has been trouble. And their name a mouthful for roll call.

Hagar

Smith-Wesson, the only acceptable double barreled name.

Eire-Dearg

foxy06 wrote: »

I gave my kids a double barreled surname cos we were not married at the time. I have a cool surname though and his is really plain so the kids have a pretty cool name now. I wouldn't call them Mary O'Sullivan Connolly for example but if a double barrel sounds cool why not?

Nothings cool spending the first 5 minutes of an exam writing your name.

NanoLion3

My surnames both sound cool, my mams is well known and my dads is a very rare but cool surname

barleybooley

I know I'd hate to marry into a double-barrel, I'd prefer to keep my name in that case, I like the brevity of it (Quinn) one syllable, job done . Would anyone else hate to marry one? I personally wouldn't give my children a double barrel, I think it sounds pretentious but that's only my opinion...