The Secret

suey71

Hello. I'm halfway through this book and find it fascinating.
I tried the exercise where you want your car park space to be in a crowded shopping centre carpark and it worked, on 3 diferent occasions too.
Has any one had any similar experiences? What are your thoughts on this book?

xzanti

suey71 wrote: »

Hello. I'm halfway through this book and find it fascinating.
I tried the exercise where you want your car park space to be in a crowded shopping centre carpark and it worked, on 3 diferent occasions too.
Has any one had any similar experiences? What are your thoughts on this book?

An ex boyfriend of mine was given a gift of the DVD from a client and he swears by it. He wouldn't have been a depressive or particularly pessimistic person to begin with but he had complained in the past of feeling unhappy at times and feeling things could go better for him in certain aspects of his life. After watching the DVD and reading the book he became a lot more optimistic and was recommending it to everyone.

I haven't gotten round to watching/reading it myself tbh but the theory behind it makes quite a lot of sense.

senordingdong

What's this now?

xzanti

senordingdong wrote: »

What's this now?

http://www.thesecret.tv/

madds

suey71 wrote: »

I tried the exercise where you want your car park space to be in a crowded shopping centre carpark and it worked, on 3 diferent occasions too.

Can you explain what's involved here?

Watched the trailer and found it very Hollywood-ish.

jick the rapper

I find the idea of "the secret" incredible!

What exactly is the reasoning behind believing that “the universe”, or whatever benevolent force is at work here, is going to provide us with what we want!

Just because we desire it so!

Does no one else think this is complete tripe?

I’m as receptive as most too out there ideas, but they have to have at least some foundation in reality

suey71

Jick, I was the exact same as you until I got the book. I dont know exactly how it works but for example if you want something badly, then just believe that you have it already and it will come to you. Sounds stange but in the case of the car park example that I gave at the start of the thread. I already knew that I had this spot, and when I got there, there was a woman trying to reverse out of my spot, but she was having dificulty due to a person parking his trolly truck behind her. So I waited for about 2 mins getting impatient as she was in my space and wallah the car next to her started to reverse out, then she did which left me with 2 spaces. This was on a Thursday afternoon and the carpark was packed.This method has worked on a few occasions, try it yourself.

jick the rapper

<chips covered in vinegar
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bigeasyeah

Aw yeah chips with vinegar would be so sweet right now.
Seriously though isnt the idea behind 'The Secret' basically the Laws of Attraction which was popular way back in the day?
Thats not saying it doesnt work.I think if one places a want or goal in a priority position in the mind,one will strive to achieve it.Whether one is aware of it or not.

gubby

I have read the secret and while I do believe that we can "think" ourselves into bad health and bad situations I still had a problem with the idea what we can have whatever we want without exception. I recently found this site and think it is more realistic.
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LouOB

I never buy lottery tickets - lost money imo

Got a Monday Millions this morning while buying stamps - quick pick 4eur
I am going to believe I have won or have 20,000 in the bank

Updates will be given tomorrow if my numbers come in

xzanti

LouOB wrote: »

I never buy lottery tickets - lost money imo

Got a Monday Millions this morning while buying stamps - quick pick 4eur
I am going to believe I have won or have 20,000 in the bank

Updates will be given tomorrow if my numbers come in

I don't think it works for financial gain, unless you're visualising doing well at work or something and earning the money, I'd imagine so anyway.. You're 'wishes' can't come from a place of desperation either afaik... If that makes any sense..

suey71

In the book there is a section on getting the Universe to send you money. So wish away. Indeed a lot of the book is about gaining material wealth. thats probably why its selling so many copies. I'd love to know exactly how many?

jick the rapper

dont forget us if you win

bigeasyeah

suey71 wrote: »

In the book there is a section on getting the Universe to send you money. So wish away. Indeed a lot of the book is about gaining material wealth. thats probably why its selling so many copies. I'd love to know exactly how many?

Yeah-I think thats the real secret

LouOB

xzanti wrote: »

I don't think it works for financial gain, unless you're visualising doing well at work or something and earning the money, I'd imagine so anyway.. You're 'wishes' can't come from a place of desperation either afaik... If that makes any sense..

Im not desperate
Just putting above into practice

btw am still €€€ less
But I really did start thinking - right i have that 20k in the bank

Overblood

If the secret was true, wouldn't every 5 year old girl have a pony?

Oryx

Overblood Im sure that comment is posted word for word in another thread about the secret around here.

Havent read the book but the car park trick is handy. just hope all of us dont wish for the same parking space someday!

Overblood

Oryx wrote: »

Overblood Im sure that comment is posted word for word in another thread about the secret around here.

And it's such a good point that you remembered.:)

LittleShadow

It is an interesting idea, and from a personal level I can understand that if you think/know you are bad at something you will be bad, if you think/know you are good at something you will be.

Thats a fair-given point and I believe thats true.

On a universal scale I wouldn't believe it, but then again I put the secret into practice. Because at the time it was all I had as a way to fix a situation I was in.

Too be honest, it worked for me.

I got out of a difficult situation that I never get out of.

Did anyone find the section on being grateful for things a little bit confusing? Does it mean to be greatful for everything in your life like the carpet under your feet, the toothbrush your brushing you teeth with etc....?

Oryx

In his book Quirkology, Richard Wiseman discusses the belief in good luck. It seemed that people who believed themselves to be lucky did indeed have better luck than those who dont believe themselves lucky. This was researched and it was felt that those who think 'lucky' tend to be more positive and to see possibilities their more negative comrades missed.

It could be there is an aspect of this at play in those who use the philosophy of The Secret. If you think positive, you act more positive and better things therefore come your way as a result.

LCDeelite

jick the rapper wrote: »

I find the idea of "the secret" incredible!

What exactly is the reasoning behind believing that “the universe”, or whatever benevolent force is at work here, is going to provide us with what we want!

Just because we desire it so!

Does no one else think this is complete tripe?

I’m as receptive as most too out there ideas, but they have to have at least some foundation in reality

You seem like a hugely optimistic chap!

LCDeelite

suey71 wrote: »

Hello. I'm halfway through this book and find it fascinating.
I tried the exercise where you want your car park space to be in a crowded shopping centre carpark and it worked, on 3 diferent occasions too.
Has any one had any similar experiences? What are your thoughts on this book?

I read the book and I adopted the overall 'greater positive thinking' ethos in general and I felt that the newer mode of thinking was an asset. For instance, instead of being out somewhere and grimacing at queues, I would say to myself (in my head obviously - people around me, duh), "I'll be out of this queue in less than five minutes". Tbh, it has worked for me in every instance where I've done that.
I use the same attitude with red traffic lights - I visualise them turning green within five seconds and they have always switched to green in each case.

Regardless of what material 'result' you might get out of putting the ethos of The Secret into action, I think that the more positive attitude in itself is a valuable aid in everyday life. Anyway, at the end of the day, it's just a book and it's up to the individual whether they choose to act on what it advises or to completely discard it all.

twanda

Have just ordered a copy of this book.
I heard many people talking about it. Really need to inject some positive thinking into my life, Lord knows I am not good at that.Things aren't going great at the mo. I hope this book will help me 'look on the brightside' more

we'llallhavetea_old

Hi, i was at a card reading today and the man doin the reading told me this story. One day a friend of his was walking down the street and a woman stopped her and said she had something she'd like to give her. She pulled 'the secret' out of her handbag and told the woman that she had been carrying it around for the previous six months and that she was waiting for the person she was supposed to give it to, and that she felt that this was the woman that needed it. Turns out the woman had been feeling down recently and read the book and felt brilliant afterwards. (just realised how unintriguing this story sounds, must have been the whole mystery of the card reading getting to me!)

twanda

I received the book a week ago. Am halfway through it and have to say, it is great at making me think more positively and not always expect the worst to happen. You really do feel better in your self when reading it.
I am on a job hunt at the moment and it's been a slow laborious process but since getting this book I have tried to use their method to better prepare myself. I got called to a second round interview this week, which is the most positive development in the job hunt since March. I would like to think it is down to using the secret. I am definitely gonna keep using their positive thinking methods.

In short, 'The Secret' gets a big thumbs up from me!

Yunalesca

I found the book interesting to read but the bottom line basically seems to be something like just believe in yourself and believe goods things will come your way, and then they will.

Which is good advice really!

togster

I watched the DVD because it simply fell into my life and i had heard of it so i said why not. The secret is based on the law of attraction and the principle of oneness, i.e that what happens within us is manifested around us.

I had already been on a new path so to speak and had discovered a new way of living that worked for me based on many old teaching found in many religions all over the world i.e that we are capable of being at one with everything and everyone around us. That is the key. It is not simply about positive thinking. It's more about the feeling that is generated. Feel it to be true.

Anyway i enjoyed it and took some small things for it.

chin_grin

YOU'RE ALL SHEEP, USELESS USELESS SHEEP. You fall prey to **** stupid idiotic book that you close your eyes and wish for something an it comes true.

Load of balls.

As was mentioned earlier everyone would have what they wanted if this was the case....and don't try to say "no, you don't get it! It's only the small things that you can change". Oh, very convenient. Idiots.

Sounds like a Deepak Chopra book to be honest, 2003 Synchrodestiny: Harnessing the Infinite Power of Coincidence to Create Miracles.

Which gullible Americans and housewives go nuts for.

Ice_Box

There is an old book called "think and grow rich" which was quite good. Written in the 1930s. Sounds a lot like the secret.

DTrotter

Ice_Box wrote: »

There is an old book called "think and grow rich" which was quite good. Written in the 1930s. Sounds a lot like the secret.

You're wrong, with The Secret you cal on the universe to listen to know in advance that you will want a car parking place and it will stop anyone else from taking it so it's empty for you.

karlog

The secret in a nutshell

If you think friendly happy thoughts about elephants, you draw friendly happy elephants to you with baloons around their trunks and great fun for the kids. But if you think fearful, negative thoughts about elephants, a huge stampede of them, with tusks the size of skyscrapers will kill and crush you to the ground.



Serves you right for having such a negative attitude!!!

twanda

chin_grin wrote: »

YOU'RE ALL SHEEP, USELESS USELESS SHEEP. You fall prey to **** stupid idiotic book that you close your eyes and wish for something an it comes true.

Load of balls.

That's your opinion on the book and you are entitled to it-- but no need for the personal attack on the rest of us. Opinions are like *ssholes -- everybody has one. I happen to believe in the power of feeling and thinking positive about things.




BTW. I got that job:D

karlog

No the universe got you that job geez

twanda

yeah, that too

Scawgeen

For those of you who read the book. I found the part of being fat hard to follow. Basically you can be thin and have 'fat thoughts' and get fat but you can't be fat and have 'thin thoughts'. Seems a bit odd. You can't think 'thin thoughts' you have think 'ideal weight' also the 'Law of Attraction' will not bring back a loved one. Like the little girls and their much sought after pony, I lost my mother when I was a little girl and no amount of wishful thinking will bring her back, as a kid I imagined she wasn't dead at all, she'd come back some day but she never did nor ever will.

jesus smith

I must say I was hella skeptical about the secret when I first was handed the book and then later the dvd however i attempted too put it into practise and it does work.
at first I believed it was mearly a case of if you condition yourself to believe something is coming to you you will subconciosuly start to gravitate towards it however I then began to notice soemthing odd.
I would put out an intention to the universe and it would come back to me. I wold get my wish but it felt like someone was messing with me. I'd ask to attract more love into my life with the intention of maybe meeting a nice girl and I'd wind up finding abandoned kittens, I'd ask to attract more money into my life and I'd get given a monopoly set out of the blue. the same thing basically happened to me with sigilism (the practise of creating a sigil to attract what you want into your life) when I decided to attempt to create a hyper sigil (wher you actually draw what you want to happen, this happens in the secret when the artists is asked to draw himself with loads of women) anyway at that point I was recently broken up from an ex and I drew a picture of us back together and then when nothing happened immidetly only to find the picture several months later and realised I was infact with a girl who fit the drawing better then my ex did.
so if nothing else I feel it works but you have to be very precise.
the lesson it seems to be trying to teach me is carfeul what you wish for.

Dr Bolouswki

Does the notion that thinking positively about things mean that you are more likely to notice the positive in a situation not strike you all as a more likely explanation taht that your thoughts "caused" the event to occur?

You can sit waiting on a car park space thinking about chopping up your neighbours kids - the space is still gonna become available at the same timeas if you sit there "thinking" the slot will open for you - its self delusion to think you "caused" it to empty when it did.

Being a happy, positive, open person gives you a certain "air" that attracts people to you - so kind events etc are far more likely to happen to you, people are far more likely to approach you, than if you are negative, depressed etc.

Mind/body synchronicity means that happy, positive people are better at dealing with illness (both mental and physical) and therefore are likely to be happier and healthier.

Positivity enures a "can do" attitude. People are far less likely to give up when they are positive. OF course "positive" people are mroe succesful.

Positivity and negativity have a huge influence in how we "see" our lives. Repititious thought is what creates our moods and outlooks on life. Repetitive positive thoughts make you happy and more likely to feel fulfilled. repetitive negative thoughts make you depressed and more likely to feel dissatisified/dissilusioned etc.

Attitude is abundantly helpful in everything we do. But the idea that "the secret" has any effect on external cause and effect is laughable.

Ice_Box

The first 20 minutes of that DVD are on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1GKGWJbE8

Ice_Box

DTrotter wrote: »

You're wrong, with The Secret you cal on the universe to listen to know in advance that you will want a car parking place and it will stop anyone else from taking it so it's empty for you.

I just read some of the reviews on amazon and a other people have compared it to "Think and grow Rich". In fact one review said "this is really little more than dressed up Napoleon Hill - Think and Grow Rich". So maybe Im not so wrong.

Scawgeen

Is the 'eminant Dr. Tony Quinn' namechecked in the book the same Dr Tony Quinn who regularly gets a two page spread devoted to him in the Sunday World ? usually by former disgruntled devotees, I'm just curious.

I've just finished the book, I've not read books of this kind before. I don't think I'll be following the law of the Law of Attraction. I'm happy to have a roof over my head and enough to eat. I've no desire to have an abundance of wealth. I don't want to be rich, I know I know the words of a fool. The only thing I'd dearly love is to be healthy, both mind and body. I've always been kind, courteous, obliging, helpful to my fellow human beings and some would say those are the words of a doormat.

faceman

Ive read The Secret and cant help but feel its a bit of a money spinner. There are far better books out there about similar thinking that is more effective and applicable to real life.

I attended a workshop where The Secret was discussed. The speaker cited Muhammad Ali as someone who oozed massive positivity and look at the successes in his career. I however took exception to this and pointed out that his successes in his career could probably be more linked to the hours and hours of work and effort he put in physically, to achieve his career goals.

In summary, i dont believe the power of positive thinking is enough to achieve goals. without corresponding action, its a waste of time.

Think about it.

You are challenged with something very difficult in life, or you set yourself a difficult objective.

Lets take weight loss as an example. If you put in the effort and take a positive approach, you are more likely to see the objective through to the end and achieve it. However if you start to put in the effort but adopt a negative attitude, you are less likely to have the committment to achieve your goal. It has nothing to do with the universe giving you what you want, its down to 2 things, the primary thing being action.

I probably sound like a moany old sod who adopts a cautious eye to this new age hippy trippy stuff but thats because I am a moany old sod.

coconut5

faceman wrote: »

I attended a workshop where The Secret was discussed. The speaker cited Muhammad Ali as someone who oozed massive positivity and look at the successes in his career. I however took exception to this and pointed out that his successes in his career could probably be more linked to the hours and hours of work and effort he put in physically, to achieve his career goals.

Muhammad Ali was probably mentioned because he used a lot of visualisation techniques before every match, and would visualise how many rounds it would take him to knock his opponents out, and he was right a lot of the time!

I think 'The Secret' is really interesting, I watched the DVD, and I liked what it had to say. Unfortunately, I find it hard to apply to my own life, but I'm going to keep trying until I get there.

faceman

coconut5 wrote: »

Muhammad Ali was probably mentioned because he used a lot of visualisation techniques before every match, and would visualise how many rounds it would take him to knock his opponents out, and he was right a lot of the time!

But again, Ali's visualisation techniques arent worth anything if he has put in the effort in training.

ntlbell

The secret could of been a very useful book if they had of stuck to the facts.

it's logical that the more positive you are the more chances of being in positive situations the more times you put yourself into positive situations the more chance you will gain a positive experience from one of those situations.

they should of just stopped there but they moved on into complete and utter f*cking nonsense which certainly will attract some morons who will buy into it but they end up missing the point and thinking they can "think" something to get it.

lala stone

I read this book a few times.. an while it doesnt work miracles,you come away more positive which is good in any context..

ANYWAY.. the thing that ruined it for me was when they swept away all the murders/genocide/attrocities etc throughout history as being the individuals fault because they werent positive enough that they would escape.....WTF????

coconut5

faceman wrote: »

But again, Ali's visualisation techniques arent worth anything if he has put in the effort in training.

I think the point is that this is what set him apart from all the other boxers who put the same effort into training, he had the mental strength that set him apart and made him a champion. That's the difference between someone being good and being great. A lot of it is mental discipline, as well as natural ability.

faceman

coconut5 wrote: »

I think the point is that this is what set him apart from all the other boxers who put the same effort into training, he had the mental strength that set him apart and made him a champion. That's the difference between someone being good and being great. A lot of it is mental discipline, as well as natural ability.

The point Im trying to make however is that the primary force that allows you to achieve your goals, is action and effort

coconut5

faceman wrote: »

The point Im trying to make however is that the primary force that allows you to achieve your goals, is action and effort

There's more to life than that. Why do some people achieve things and others don't, even if they appear to be as gifted as the achiever? Luck comes into play, and I guess what The Secret is trying to tell you is that you can help this by thinking positively and taking all the opportunities that come your way. You don't have to agree, I just think it makes sense.

faceman

coconut5 wrote: »

There's more to life than that. Why do some people achieve things and others don't, even if they appear to be as gifted as the achiever? Luck comes into play, and I guess what The Secret is trying to tell you is that you can help this by thinking positively and taking all the opportunities that come your way. You don't have to agree, I just think it makes sense.

I know what you are saying, i guess from my experience, i see people relying too heavily on forces like this to help them through challenges/life etc when sometimes its important to get up off your behind and put in the effort.

Lets say you have 3 people applying for a job that involves taking a practical exam.

Person A does loads of prepartion and applies the positive nature as per The Secret
Person B does loads of prepartion but does has a negative outlook on the situation.
Person C does no prepartion but applies the positive nature as per The Secret

It may be a simplistic example, but my money would be on Person A & B being the stronger candidates.

coconut5

Oh, absolutely. Getting off your arse has to be the starting point.