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  • Registered Users Posts: 17 aarglynn


    Having a bit of trouble on the Balance Sheet
    In the Current Liabilities I can't work out the 'other creditors' figure for the life of me :mad:

    Anybody got any ideas?

    Thanks in advance ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭Risteard


    aarglynn wrote: »
    Having a bit of trouble on the Balance Sheet
    In the Current Liabilities I can't work out the 'other creditors' figure for the life of me :mad:

    Anybody got any ideas?

    Thanks in advance ;)


    Debenture Interest for Year: 32000
    - paid 12000

    due 20000
    Provision for Auditor's Remuneration: 9000
    Provision for Directors' Remuneration: 80000


    Other Creditors 109000


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 aarglynn


    Risteard wrote: »
    Debenture Interest for Year: 32000
    - paid 12000

    due 20000
    Provision for Auditor's Remuneration: 9000
    Provision for Directors' Remuneration: 80000


    Other Creditors 109000

    Thanks a lot! You're a legend :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭aine-maire


    galway.gaa wrote: »
    i cant wait, im so excited



    Weirdo :p



    I'm sorry if you were being ironic


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭blue-army


    Could someone just quickly explain how to get Dividends Proposed, Paid etc... on Manufacturing A/C's?

    Just take the '05 one as an example..

    Cheers. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭galway.gaa


    aine-maire wrote: »
    Weirdo :p



    I'm sorry if you were being ironic
    you cant say your not a little excited about the accounting test tomorow:D?
    its gonna be fun. ive been waitin for it for 2 years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    blue-army wrote: »
    Could someone just quickly explain how to get Dividends Proposed, Paid etc... on Manufacturing A/C's?

    Just take the '05 one as an example..

    Cheers. :)

    Calculate total dividends: Preference 200,000 x 8%
    Ordinary 300,000 x 9%

    The interim is for 6 months, ie half a year. This is used for preference dividends...half the year = half the dividends have been paid. Dont use the interim figure, just half of the dividends you just calculated. Thats dividends paid, you can find dividends due easily by subtraction.

    The rest of the interim is ordinary dividends paid, and again by subtraction find ordinary dividends due.

    :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭ynwa_17


    Good luck all tomorrow. Lets hope our worrying about predictions is wrong, and its an easy paper :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 435 ✭✭~Candy~


    could somebody tell me what does this mean ?


    creditors are paid in the month immdeliately following delivery -_-
    does it mean the month after or within the months am confused :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    I see im not the only one up early to cram!! :D

    If you're talking about a cash budget, say your purchases for February are 50,000, you dont actually pay them til march, and your purchases from march are paid in april. This has a knock on effect meaning that you dont count for your last months purchases (june most likely) in your cash budget, and you may not have a january figure if its a new business...

    Hope that makes sense...:) Is that the type of q you were talking about?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 happyhappyhappy


    I got up early to cram...but went on this instead :confused:

    If Manufacturing doesn't come up
    I'm pooped

    Also if Ratios are hard..im pooped
    Also if incomplete/service don't come up..im pooped
    (one more) Also if cash budgeting doesn't come up..im pooped

    Oh the nerves!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 435 ✭✭~Candy~


    I see im not the only one up early to cram!! :D

    If you're talking about a cash budget, say your purchases for February are 50,000, you dont actually pay them til march, and your purchases from march are paid in april. This has a knock on effect meaning that you dont count for your last months purchases (june most likely) in your cash budget, and you may not have a january figure if its a new business...

    Hope that makes sense...:) Is that the type of q you were talking about?



    lol..ya thanks!! =D =D

    ya i swear they are gonna put up the other type of cash budget if it comes up o_O

    ya i was up since half 6 cramming !!
    only got to the the formulas in Q5 now..thankgod !!
    well, haven't done them since the pres....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭aine-maire


    galway.gaa wrote: »
    you cant say your not a little excited about the accounting test tomorow:D?
    its gonna be fun. ive been waitin for it for 2 years



    No.

    Just scared...:(



    In the 2007 cash budget question, can anyone please explain why there's no closing stock in the trading account part?
    Please?
    :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    aine-maire wrote: »
    No.

    Just scared...:(



    In the 2007 cash budget question, can anyone please explain why there's no closing stock in the trading account part?
    Please?
    :confused:

    Hey....I'm not exactly sure, but in that particular type of cash budget (but not in the other type) they dont give you any indication of a closing stock, so you just don't put it in. I'm sure theres a reason, cant think of it right now, but you don't have to worry bout it! Only for that type of budget...:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    AHHHH!!! THEORY!!!! How did i forget to go over it......Sh1t!!! :eek::eek:

    Good luck everyone!!

    *Runs away to learn stupid theory* :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭aine-maire


    Hey....I'm not exactly sure, but in that particular type of cash budget (but not in the other type) they dont give you any indication of a closing stock, so you just don't put it in. I'm sure theres a reason, cant think of it right now, but you don't have to worry bout it! Only for that type of budget...:)


    Yeah,here's hoping that one doesn't come up :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 happyhappyhappy


    How did everyone do???


  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭sheehy898


    How did everyone do???
    that went very well, nice paper:):)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Finical


    Probs failed ffs, so annoyed with that paper.


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭AJ6000


    Cash Budget was undo-able
    Incomplete was a bitch
    Debenture Interset ****ed up my Manufacturing A/C

    I did these questions:

    Section 1: Manufacturing A/C
    Section 2: Interpretation
    Published A/c
    Section 3: Job Costing

    It definately was a new person doing it There was subtle differences everywhere! There wasnt any Dividends due anywhere all just Dividends paid!

    What was that step fixed cost thing in the Job Costing Theory:
    I took a wild stab at Administration Expenses as an example

    Dont have a clue of how I did Manu and Pub A/cs didnt Balance but I could have got anywhere between a C1 and a B1


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 happyhappyhappy


    Same more than likely failed


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,845 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    *sigh*

    Where was that Manfacturing Account last year? :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭blue-army


    Tough Paper...
    Manufacturing was ok... few really hard adjustments though.
    Published...not great for me. :(
    Incomplete was very hard...


    Job Costing - not too bad.

    Hopefully a D1+.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Finical


    I attempted Tabular incomplete and interpretation. Done the cash budget on section 3 thats all.

    I was sure depreciation would come up. Pissed off =/:mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭blue-army


    What answers did people get for Job Costing?

    I got the same as my friend...Hope that means I'm right! Someone tell me what you got...


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    I thought the paper was ok, but time was a killer for me! Also no dividends due... anywhere :confused:

    Q1: manufacturin: Didn't balance. I did the 2005 and 2001 questions yesterday which were pretty similar, so I don't think I did too badly in this

    Q6 Published accounts: I got really screwed over time wise in this. This also didn't balance and I didn't get a chance to find mistakes.... Couldn't answer the theory bit about the directors report but I could do the "exception items" bit.

    Q7 Incomplete records: WOO! I think this went grand (but it was extremely rushed because I'd spent too long on Q6). I'm not sure that I did the creditors account correctly..... At least I could do the theory bit for this q no bother :D

    Q8 Job Costing: DAMN THE TIME BEAST! Lol I'd about 15 mins to attempt this.... I did part a in a really stupid way (like 3 seperate adjustments rather than in a spreadsheet thing) and only just got part b done when the script was removed forcefully from my claws... *sigh* :o

    NO MORE ACCOUNTING! EVER! :D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    That was THE ideal paper, but the questions were absolutely horrible.
    Manufacturing...seemed to have a load of extra workings that shouldnt have been there, it didnt balance at first so i shoved the provision into expenses to make it work out...no idea if it belongs there or not :confused:
    Incomplete - seemed like a q1 with all the extra stuff than normal.
    Cash budget - all i can say is, WTF? :eek:
    Ratios - grand, just had no time :(

    For someone who spent the first 5 minutes practically celebrating about the questions on it, arghhh im really pissed off with it now...:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭HQvhs


    Cash budgeting... oh dear....
    What makes it worse is that everything else went so well up until that question!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,534 ✭✭✭Dman001


    Costing is a very nice question and quicker too. I'm surprised there wasnt more that did it.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    That was THE ideal paper, but the questions were absolutely horrible.
    Manufacturing...seemed to have a load of extra workings that shouldnt have been there, it didnt balance at first so i shoved the provision into expenses to make it work out...no idea if it belongs there or not :confused:
    Incomplete - seemed like a q1 with all the extra stuff than normal.
    Cash budget - all i can say is, WTF? :eek:
    Ratios - grand, just had no time :(

    For someone who spent the first 5 minutes practically celebrating about the questions on it, arghhh im really pissed off with it now...:(

    Normally you stick increase/decrease in provision into the P&L.... *facepalm* I can't believe I forgot that (obviously it increased if there was nothing there before)!!

    Yeah I actually did a little victory dance when I saw the paper! Then I got stuck into it.... When I saw the cash budget had production budgets in it I ran into the arms of job costing :o


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