Your predictions for the June 8th announcement?

Tom Dunne

So, what do you reckon Apple will announce next week?

Just the 3.0 version of the operating system?

New phone(s)? New iPod Touch models?

I reckon there will be a new model of iPhone, that will be slimmer and have better battery life, plus a camera upgrade. Nothing massive, I would imagine, probably only around the 3.2 Megapixel mark. New gimmicks and features in the 3.0 software too, I believe some are as yet unannounced.

keith_d99

Reckon there is defo many more features in 3.0 that will be new generation iPhone only (they still need new features to sell new hardware).
I think the compass if an example of a new hardware specific feature that was spotted in 3.0.

3.2 with auto-focus etc. (flash maybe?)
Front camera (spotted in some new bezel photo)
Better battery (hopefully)

Will be big disappointment if they don't announce new hardware on Monday next. There is a lot of talk of 3 new iPhones (cheap version, 16gb, and 32gb)

mobius42

They'll start with the usual "State of the Mac" stuff and another John Hodgman ad.

Then, I think they'll introduce the 3.0 software with some features not previously revealed (e.g. app sharing or movie downloads). They could also have some company demo an app they made using the new iPhone SDK, maybe Nike+iPhone.

Then the new iPhone. Video, bigger storage, 3.2 MP camera with auto-focus, better specs, looks pretty much the same externally. Maybe call Steve Jobs with it. Probably a joke about the Palm Pre somewhere in there.

Snow Leopard. Show off features and give beta build to developers. Leaked to Bittorrent within 24 hours.

iPhone 3.0 released after the keynote. New iPhone released in a few weeks.

One more thing... Apple TV update?

Rafloution

not sure if this is crap but here goes

vinnycoyne

I'm pretty sure that's a render, but if that's what the final product looks like I am definitely buying one!

Kid Nothing

that definitely looks like a render but it is lovely looking.

i'd say mobius42 has it fairly spot on there, fair play.

Oafley Jones

Rafloution wrote: »

not sure if this is crap but here goes

That looks great, although the button is too exposed and would be constantly activated.

I wouldn't expect the next gen iPod Touch till at least September.

bluemachaveli

I think 3.0 will launch in July with the new hardware (a la 2.0).
New features for the new hardware will be Video, iChat (with front facing camera), Improved Camera and the Compass. Movie & TV shows over wifi.

I would love an app store for Apple TV but they would need some form off new control!

Snow Leopard release date is a cert!

Anyone know if O2 will allow people to upgrade from the 3G model (still in contract) to the new model?

That render is cool looking!

Dman001

I see O2 Ireland have no more 3G iPhones in stock, a very good sign.
Remember that WWDC is a devlepors conference so don't expect anything more than a new iPhone, along with software anouncements.

cojomo2

Dman001 wrote: »

I see O2 Ireland have no more 3G iPhones in stock, a very good sign..

Not true..its only 8gb they are out of stock on, they have both the black and white version available in 16gb.

whiterebel

cojomo2 wrote: »

Not true..its only 8gb they are out of stock on, they have both the black and white version available in 16gb.

The white 16GB were out for weeks, but they are back now.

Danbo!

Did o2 pull the 2G iphone as soon as the 3G was announced? I know you'd have to be fairly stupid not to wait on the 3G model, as it was much cheaper and improvements were huge, but if the rumours of improved capacity and camera are true, I'd be happy with the current 8Gb 3G model.

I've no interest in using the phone as a camera, and only have about 6Gb of music. I don't wanna pick one up now in case there's some major surprises next week, but would like the option on Monday to see what the crack is, and if not overly sold on the new model (will probably have to wait a few months for stock anyways), do you reckon I'll still be able to pick up the current model from o2? The only thing I'm thinking is, if it has more ram and processing speed, will apps evolve to match this, and end up being sluggish on old iphone models?

Oh and on thread topic... I hope apple pull something very cool out of the bag that no one expected at all. I think they've got the hardware form pretty perfect, and so hope there are some hidden gems in 3.0.

mobius42

The 2G was pulled once they announced the 3G. I'm surprised they didn't just drop the price and sell them. A lot of people don't care about 3G or GPS.
I do think they'll have a surprise up their sleeves, especially since it's so close to the release of the Palm Pre.

copacetic

it's looking like more memory 32GB at least, twice the uP speed, better camera, video calling and recording, fm radio, slimmer handset with tweaked design so it's not so slippy.

all in all I know I'm going to be really pissed off that I can't change to it asap as will be stuck with the current 3G unless O2 do an offer which seems unlikely.

mobius42

Well, you could buy it unsubsidised when it comes out. You'll be looking at €400 to €500 though, I'd say.

copacetic

mobius42 wrote: »

Well, you could buy it unsubsidised when it comes out. You'll be looking at €400 to €500 though, I'd say.

getting hold of one would be practically impossible though?

mobius42

O2 claim they've learned their lesson from the 3G launch and that there won't be the stock shortages that there were the last time. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

Danbo!

mobius42 wrote: »

O2 claim they've learned their lesson from the 3G launch and that there won't be the stock shortages that there were the last time. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

I'd really like to believe that. Funny how last year there was nothing at all, then a few, then a recall on those few, then nothing for ages, and then, right in time for christmas, plenty available for bill and pay as you go.

Do o2 really know anything about the new iphone though? Surely if apple informed operators of a new iphone more info would have leaked by now through mobile network employees? Unless they've just been told we're revising it, and that there will be sufficient stock levels to send worldwide... Hmmmm..

faceman

I expect they will have a launch date 3.0 and annouce the new iPhone. The pic above is a fake for sure.

Snow Leopard will probably be launched and Id say an update to the iPod touch too.

faceman

Stee wrote: »

Do o2 really know anything about the new iphone though? Surely if apple informed operators of a new iphone more info would have leaked by now through mobile network employees? Unless they've just been told we're revising it, and that there will be sufficient stock levels to send worldwide... Hmmmm..

I usually read the Apple forum on Digg and this is the best that has been spotted about it.

http://gizmodo.com/5273348/first-iphone-3g-2009-screens-look-very-real-to-me

Danbo!

www.macrumors.com has some interesting stuff too

Sad Professor

There definitely won't be any iPod Touch updates until September 9th at the earliest. That's when the Back to School promotion ends which Apple uses to get rid of old stock.

I'm really tempted to get one of the new iPhones. But only if it's pre-pay. Will O2 make it immediately available on PAYG though? I couldn't be bothered waiting or f**king around on Ebay for one.

I'm really hoping for Macbook updates too. It's highly unlikely at the actual event but maybe they'll get a quite update on the Applestore that morning.

copacetic

mobius42 wrote: »

O2 claim they've learned their lesson from the 3G launch and that there won't be the stock shortages that there were the last time. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

I don't think thats what they have said at all, they said they won't be taken pre-orders as it was a disaster. They have no direct control over stock levels. They certainly won't be available except on contract for a number of months imo.

Tom Dunne

Just reading a rumour on Mac Romours about a 4Gb model selling for $99 - designed to fend off the Palm Pre which was launched this week.

mobius42

I just had a read over this again: http://forums.o2online.ie/forums/showthread.php?t=3666

The head of O2 Customer Care:

Stock was a real challenge for us and I can promise you that we learnt alot in the launch of the iPhone. If we're in that situation again I am sure that the whole experience for new and existing customers will be better for all involved.

It seems you're right about the stock, copacetic. I wonder how they'll deal with the situation if it happens again.

Dman001

mobius42 wrote: »

O2 claim they've learned their lesson from the 3G launch and that there won't be the stock shortages that there were the last time. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

I was hoping you were going to say that they learnt their lesson and give us better tariffs next time round (I can dream this will happen).

Anyway, I think Apple need to release a cheap iPhone aimed at the PAYG market. If they did release a 4GB iPhone for €99 on PAYG everyone would go mad for it, even if the specs weren't great (Edge, no GPS, etc.)

matchthis

Rafloution wrote: »

not sure if this is crap but here goes

Earphones are really old and the home key is not circle. It's just not cricket! Fecken nice though. From the body of it, looks like a 1st gen touch that has been modded

Dman001

I would love a big screen iPhone like that.

mobius42

Dman001 wrote: »

I was hoping you were going to say that they learnt their lesson and give us better tariffs next time round (I can dream this will happen).

Anyway, I think Apple need to release a cheap iPhone aimed at the PAYG market. If they did release a 4GB iPhone for €99 on PAYG everyone would go mad for it, even if the specs weren't great (Edge, no GPS, etc.)

O2 have no incentive to reduce their tariffs. They have sold a lot of iPhones at the current tariff levels and those unwilling to sign up to billpay can just buy it on PAYG.

I agree on the cheap iPhone idea. Most people on PAYG don't use mobile Internet and so 3G and GPS don't matter to them. I doubt it'd be as cheap as €99 without some form of carrier subsidy though.

whiterebel

Rumour mill is really cranking up now. The analysts reckon its nailed on there will be a smaller version, and that Apple won't retain the exclusibve agreements they have in Europe. One can only hope.

mobius42

Where did you hear the bit about not retaining the exclusivity contracts?

whiterebel

mobius42 wrote: »

Where did you hear the bit about not retaining the exclusivity contracts?

A bit in MacFormat this month, and a few bits and pices on the web, but I would say ONLY if they release a reduced feature iPhone. This would allow them to increase their market share while not breaking agreements with their exclusive carriers.

Necronomicon

Having played with a friend's Android, I think I'll be stupidly tempted by the new iPhone for the digital compass if nothing else. Great feature, should have some really decent apps.

cojomo2

Necronomicon wrote: »

Having played with a friend's Android, I think I'll be stupidly tempted by the new iPhone for the digital compass if nothing else. Great feature, should have some really decent apps.

what are the benefits of a magnetometer/digital compass?

Also, Anyone think its likely that the new iphone will be a fair bit thinner/sexier looking than the current 3g model?

copacetic

cojomo2 wrote: »

what are the benefits of a magnetometer/digital compass?

Also, Anyone think its likely that the new iphone will be a fair bit thinner/sexier looking than the current 3g model?

it could be of benefit for various apps, eg 3d mapping the phone can tell which way you are facing as well as where you are. so you could point it at a building as ask the map what the building is.

some of the apps like the telemetry ones for cars need the phone to be locked down while they compute. With this they could be redesigned not to need it.

I'm sure you'll also see them used in games etc, possibly applications for multiplayer games/shoot em ups using pointing of phones would be cool.

fair bit thinner/sexier - unlikely. A little bit thinner and sexier - likely.


edit - this pic from macrumours is either real or just a mock up based on rumours but seems pretty likely. most
people wouldn't even notice the difference.

cojomo2

for any1 waiting for the new iphone..here something to consider

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88-JC3uuIJg&feature=fvw

Its a toshiba tg01, with a 1gb chipset,full flash support and a 4.1'' display. opinions any1?

thepostman

copacetic wrote: »

most
people wouldn't even notice the difference.

Brighter apple logo and earphones at the bottom? Surely it wouldnt go back to the 2G style headphone jack would it? Would be uproar if there was id say.

copacetic

why would that be a 2G style jack? it looks the same from behind as the 3G one imo, as it sits on the curve so looks more like an ident from behind.

imo jack on the bottom is better as when you pull in out of your pocket it's the right way up then. don't think the logo is brighter, it just shows up better as the rest of the back is matt now rather than shiny. saying all that they could be fake.

Dman001

I think its fair to assume that the next iPhone will run 3.0 out of the box and I'm pretty sure that 3.0 has an extra icon on the home screen for that new App Store thing.

Dman001

This looks pretty legit:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/06/is-this-the-new-iphone/#continued

cojomo2

G-Money

I don't know what they are going to announce tomorrow. But I'd want a 32GB model, better camera, better battery life and faster internet access. I have an iPod touch and I notice the internet browsing can be kind of slow, even on a fast connection.

Rumour has it that they will be bringing out a cheaper 4GB model. It would also be great if they ended the exclusivity deal with O2 Ireland.

thepostman

Will everything be told tomorow? And will 3.0 officialy be released tomorow to download? Also will it be on live tomorow on anywere wouldnt mind watching it. Sure how else would you spend the day.

copacetic

thepostman wrote: »

Will everything be told tomorow? And will 3.0 officialy be released tomorow to download? Also will it be on live tomorow on anywere wouldnt mind watching it. Sure how else would you spend the day.

yes, yes and not as far as I know. best bet is live blogs from engadget or gizmodo, haven't seen them stream video though.

bluemachaveli

There wont be any live stream, Apple will post the video afterwards tho. Usually about 9-10PM over here!

Dman001

9to5mac.com are trying to get a video and audio feed but I think Gizmodo is the best for these type of events.

mobius42

The PAYG model is rumored to be the existing 3G model at $99.

Spud83

Prob a stupid question but what time is this starting Irish time?

vinnycoyne

6pm

mobius42

Here are some links for liveblogs that will be covering the event:

http://www.macrumorslive.com/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/08/phil-schiller-keynote-live-from-wwdc-2009/
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/06/apple-wwdc-keynote-liveblog-coverage.ars
http://live.gizmodo.com/

cojomo2

I predict/hope that apple will announce that they want to make it easier for EVERYONE to own the new iPhone, and as such, they will not have any exclusive deals with carriers.....which will save me a trip to Belgium.

take that O2.