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Man Shot Dead By Gardai During Attempted Robbery

  • 15-05-2009 04:19PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭


    From breakingnews.ie


    One man has died in hospital after being shot by gardaí during an attempted robbery in Lucan, Co. Dublin earlier today.

    He was one of two men shot by members of the Organised Crime Unit during the attempted raid on a cash-in-transit van at the Foxborough Road just after midday.

    Armed officers had been monitoring the gang and were on the scene as part of 'Operation Delivery' which was set up to combat robberies of high-value goods in transit.

    Four men aged in their 20s have been arrested and are currently being detained in Lucan and Ronanstown Garda Stations under Section 30 of the Offences Against the State Act.

    “Today's incident is a reminder of the dangers faced by members of An Garda Síochána in carrying out their duties and their courage in confronting those dangers,” Justice Minister Dermot Ahern said following a briefing on the incident from Garda Commissioner Fachtna Murphy.

    The Minister said that, while the loss of any life was to be regretted, he had no doubt that An Garda Síochána had the full support of the community in taking whatever action was necessary when confronted by armed gangs.

    The Garda Siochána Ombudsman Commission has opened an investigation into the incident, as required by law.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 702 ✭✭✭wreckless


    gardai 1, scumbags 0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 820 ✭✭✭jetski


    I assume the raiders were carring guns and fired first? if not the guard who shot him should be suspened and charged.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    Good to hear no members of the public or Gardai were injured.

    Ahern is a legend with comments like that.

    The gougers know if they come across the ERU, RSU, SDU or OCU, and pull a gun they will get shot dead.

    It was very easy to shoot an unarmed motorbike cop wearing a yellow jacket and standing next to a white motorbike and escape, not so easy to shoot an OCU member!!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    jetski wrote: »
    I assume the raiders were carring guns and fired first? if not the guard who shot him should be suspened and charged.

    The criminal does not have to fire first.

    Simply having a gun and pointing it near members of the public or gardai will get you shot dead.

    This is what we all pay our taxes for (including gardai). To be protected from these type of people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭brayblue24


    jetski wrote: »
    I assume the raiders were carring guns and fired first? if not the guard who shot him should be suspened and charged.

    There's always one........

    Not the case and rightly so as highlighted above by Chief


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭sunnyjim


    jetski wrote: »
    I assume the raiders were carring guns and fired first? if not the guard who shot him should be suspened and charged.

    So we should wait for them to shoot an innocent bystander until they are shot.

    What happens if YOU are an innocent bystander in the wrong place at the wrong time, and a scummer shouts to gardai that "this fella will be shot unless yous let us out of here". You'd be asking for Gardai to take the first shot then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭PapaQuebec


    Mate of mine is with the NBCI, assigned to "delivery". Dont know if he was on this shout - but if he was I'll be buying him a cold one!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    Pity, they should have all been shot dead, pheking gangsters think they own the place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭djtechnics1210


    Organised Crime Unit and Operation Delivery are two different units completely, their not even in the same building as each other... someone in press office has their facts mixed up me thinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭ak51535


    Organised Crime Unit and Operation Delivery are two different units completely, their not even in the same building as each other... someone in press office has their facts mixed up me thinks.
    what else is new? :L


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Mr Jinx


    Organised Crime Unit and Operation Delivery are two different units completely, their not even in the same building as each other... someone in press office has their facts mixed up me thinks.

    Press office prob only heard of it after papers rang them !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭timmywex


    Well the men and women over in after hour think its all great!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    I think its the general attitude from the law abiding tax paying pblic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭djtechnics1210


    Last time something like this happened was in Lusk.
    Criminals have had it to easy, getting away with going around tooled up for too long.

    The only problem now is how many enquiries, tribunals working groups et etc will be set up to investigate this and give their pennies worth.
    Id say the lads that puled the triggers will still be getting questioned about this and having to write on it when their retired.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭djtechnics1210


    Its unusual to see that OCU were the lead in this armed incident and the ones that did the intervention, its usually ERU that you see doing these type of incidents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Good to see any Garda operation being succesful, its not like they stumbled across the raid or anything. A result.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    I really think that the Gardai need a couple more high profile "busts" like this. It really puts them up there as a force to be reckoned with and you feel better knowing they do have the ability to tackle this sort of thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Random wrote: »
    I really think that the Gardai need a couple more high profile "busts" like this. It really puts them up there as a force to be reckoned with and you feel better knowing they do have the ability to tackle this sort of thing.

    +1

    The Traffic Cops show could give Road safety a higher profile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 820 ✭✭✭jetski


    Chief--- wrote: »
    The criminal does not have to fire first.

    Simply having a gun and pointing it near members of the public or gardai will get you shot dead.

    This is what we all pay our taxes for (including gardai). To be protected from these type of people.


    Oh, so you agree with the killing of John Carthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    jetski wrote: »
    Oh, so you agree with the killing of John Carthy.

    Jumping to conclusions?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    jetski wrote: »
    Oh, so you agree with the killing of John Carthy.
    Personally, yes. He came marching out of the house with a loaded shotgun after a prolonged siege. He also fired a few rounds at neighbouring houses prior to the siege.

    If the family were that concerned after the event, then why didn't they restrict access to firearms to a family member that they knew had had mental health issues?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    jetski wrote: »
    Oh, so you agree with the killing of John Carthy.

    Yes i agree that at the point he was shot he had to be shot to prevent gardai getting injured or killed.

    I dont agree with the handling of the whole event and if it was handled better he would not have needed to be shot.

    Anyway that is way off topic to this thread, if you want to start an abbylara thread you are more than welcome to do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Dotsie~tmp


    It cant be any easy thing to do for a living. Good to hear that no were Gardai hurt. Too many of these armed robberys going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 820 ✭✭✭jetski


    Chief--- wrote: »

    I dont agree with the handling of the whole event and if it was handled better he would not have needed to be shot.

    He had a gun and pointed it at gardai tho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 820 ✭✭✭jetski


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Jumping to conclusions?


    Nope, you are.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,742 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Its good to see that these tiger robberies are being combated. Unfortunately, if you act like a bandit you have to be prepared for the consequences.
    jetski wrote: »
    He had a gun and pointed it at gardai tho.

    I think that's Chief's point . . . do you expect the Gardai to do nothing if someone is pointing a loaded weapon at them?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 820 ✭✭✭jetski


    I think that's Chief's point . . . do you expect the Gardai to do nothing if someone is pointing a loaded weapon at them?:confused:

    Hes contradicting himself.

    I dont expect them to do nothing, a shot in the leg will be more than enough to stop someone, you dont need to kill them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,891 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Look , anyone carrying a knife/ gun etc , do so with the intent to use ............So in my opinion the Gardai done a great job here.

    Could this be a reminder to other like-minded criminals out there , to think twice before breaking the law


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Bogger77


    jetski wrote: »
    Oh, so you agree with the killing of John Carthy.
    Yes.
    He pointed gun, he'd fired it previously.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Bogger77


    jetski wrote: »
    Hes contradicting himself.

    I dont expect them to do nothing, a shot in the leg will be more than enough to stop someone, you dont need to kill them.
    shot in the leg, and maim them?
    You've been watching to many crap hollywood movies!

    a 9mm round in the leg won't stop them pulling the trigger.


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