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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    gizmo wrote: »
    Can we get back on topic now please?


    I think the topic is dead:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭Rosstafarian


    Ah now...let's not be hasty...I'm sure there are loads more people that want to talk about wheelie bags and noise after hours...

    But can I just say that it works both ways....and if people want to stay up late a few nights a week playing poker and security kick them out of the common room at 12 for the first time in the whole year then they have a right to complain too....surely it's not just the people who go to bed early that have a right to bitch?

    And gizmo if you tell me that's personal abuse then I'll be distraught...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Of course that's not personal abuse, you managed to make your point without actually insulting anyone. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭Rosstafarian


    Well I'll be damned!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    Ah now...let's not be hasty...I'm sure there are loads more people that want to talk about wheelie bags and noise after hours...

    But can I just say that it works both ways....and if people want to stay up late a few nights a week playing poker and security kick them out of the common room at 12 for the first time in the whole year then they have a right to complain too....surely it's not just the people who go to bed early that have a right to bitch?

    And gizmo if you tell me that's personal abuse then I'll be distraught...

    I agree there is nothing wrong with playing poker ect in the common rooms and I dont believe thats what people are complaining about.. well Id be surprised if they are, the only issue I have is when your housemate decides to throw a crazy party by playing crap music into the hours of 3am the next morning on a week when there are loads of assignments due as well as the odd exam!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭Rosstafarian


    *shadow* wrote: »
    I agree there is nothing wrong with playing poker ect in the common rooms and I dont believe thats what people are complaining about.. well Id be surprised if they are, the only issue I have is when your housemate decides to throw a crazy party by playing crap music into the hours of 3am the next morning on a week when there are loads of assignments due as well as the odd exam!!

    Would it make a difference if it was good music?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    Would it make a difference if it was good music?

    Hell yeaaaaa

    AN extra 100 points though for the person that holds it on a Non exam night with free alcohol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭g5fd6ow0hseima


    I BLAME IT ALL ON ALCOHOL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭g5fd6ow0hseima


    Daysha wrote: »
    We all like to have a good night out and enjoy ourselves, but if you really need your 8 hours of beauty sleep every night with zero disturbances, then campus res really isn't the place for you.

    So a good night requires one to be a drunken, inconsiderate mess even after arriving home from bondi full to the gills on WKD? Do all your ****-acting when in the pubs/clubs!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭Rosstafarian


    So a good night requires one to be a drunken, inconsiderate mess even after arriving home from bondi full to the gills on WKD? Do all your ****-acting when in the pubs/clubs!

    There was nothing about alcohol in what that person said? Not even a hint to be honest...Don't know why you're quoting that post...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    It was insinuated in the post to be honest, unless of course said people are loud, aggressive and idiotic when sober...in which case you're ****ed anyway. ;)

    The simple fact of the matter is that most people are capable of going out and having a great night without the need to shout the bloody place down when they return. Others, unfortunately, are not and these are the people who are the problem. Same goes for having parties in your apartment, why people can't just ask their fellow room mates if it's alright before they do it is beyond me.

    Anyway, sure it sucks being woken up by others while living on Res but that doesn't justify you going out and doing exactly the same thing thinking it'll somehow balance out. And as John said it above, no, none of this makes you a dry ****e, it just makes you civil, something which some of the above type of people could do with learning about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭g5fd6ow0hseima


    There was nothing about alcohol in what that person said? Not even a hint to be honest...Don't know why you're quoting that post...
    'good night' 'enjoy ourselves' 'zero disturbances.

    Em - this translates exactly to alcohol in my opinion. Ive yet to hear that usual pissed-up attention seeking ****e be imitated by a sober person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    'good night' 'enjoy ourselves' 'zero disturbances.

    Em - this translates exactly to alcohol in my opinion. Ive yet to hear that usual pissed-up attention seeking ****e be imitated by a sober person.

    Ur half right, drink brings out the worst in people but it also brings out their genuine character.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    So a good night requires one to be a drunken, inconsiderate mess even after arriving home from bondi full to the gills on WKD? Do all your ****-acting when in the pubs/clubs!
    'good night' 'enjoy ourselves' 'zero disturbances.

    Em - this translates exactly to alcohol in my opinion. Ive yet to hear that usual pissed-up attention seeking ****e be imitated by a sober person.

    You've completely misinterpreted my post. Yes we do all enjoy a good night, both drinkers and teetotalers. But the fact is, in the 18-24 demograph, the drinkers far outweigh the non-drinkers. And given that people on campus are living right in the centre of a busy college, it's simply a fact of life that you're going to get these disturbances from time to time. And if you can't face up to that then maybe living on campus isn't the place for you.

    That's the point I was making. But I haven't a clue how you thought I said you needed to be a drunken mess to enjoy yourself on a night out :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    Daysha wrote: »
    And given that people on campus are living right in the centre of a busy college, it's simply a fact of life that you're going to get these disturbances from time to time. And if you can't face up to that then maybe living on campus isn't the place for you.

    Or Campus accomodation could just be given to people who dont cause disturbances on a continues basis!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    *shadow* wrote: »
    Or Campus accomodation could just be given to people who dont cause disturbances on a continues basis!!

    And then what? Just assume all incoming 1st years in Larkfield and Hampstead for the next few years won't cause a single noise disturbance either?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    Daysha wrote: »
    And then what? Just assume all incoming 1st years in Larkfield and Hampstead for the next few years won't cause a single noise disturbance either?

    Its all about moderation.

    Unfortunately there will always be people who have no considerations for others and people who feel that they deserve more consideration than others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    Daysha wrote: »
    And then what? Just assume all incoming 1st years in Larkfield and Hampstead for the next few years won't cause a single noise disturbance either?


    The first year situation you can't avoid, first years are afraid and nervous and easily excited and they need to socialise in order to meet lots of cool new people. So we can't not let them on campus.

    Other years though..well thats a different story, I think whether you get campus the following years should depend on your college attendance and whether or not you have been fined in the past for holding parties.

    I know people who got campus next year and they never bother going to lectures..whats the point in being at college, someone else would have loved that place and that room.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    riemann wrote: »
    Its all about moderation.

    Unfortunately there will always be people who have no considerations for others and people who feel that they deserve more consideration than others.

    I really don't think you can moderate anything to do with drink in this country. It's not a DCU problem, it's a national problem.
    *shadow* wrote: »
    The first year situation you can't avoid, first years are afraid and nervous and easily excited and they need to socialise in order to meet lots of cool new people. So we can't not let them on campus.

    Other years though..well thats a different story, I think whether you get campus the following years should depend on your college attendance and whether or not you have been fined in the past for holding parties.

    I know people who got campus next year and they never bother going to lectures..whats the point in being at college, someone else would have loved that place and that room.

    I can understand where you're coming from, but that won't necessarily mean people will be as quiet as angels when they come in at 3am. I mean, I like to enjoy a few pints when I'm out, but I like to think I go to most of my lectures, and I'm not stupid enough to hold a party at mad hours and piss off those living around me. And the vast majority of drinkers living on campus will tell you the same too.

    Don't Campus Res say they'll punish serial disturbers by considering there place on campus anyway?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    Daysha wrote: »
    I can understand where you're coming from, but that won't necessarily mean people will be as quiet as angels when they come in at 3am. I mean, I like to enjoy a few pints when I'm out, but I like to think I go to most of my lectures, and I'm not stupid enough to hold a party at mad hours and piss off those living around me. And the vast majority of drinkers living on campus will tell you the same too.

    Don't Campus Res say they'll punish serial disturbers by considering there place on campus anyway?


    I can deal with them not being as quite as angles on the way back to their appartment but its when they come in at 3am with a load of mates and they start playing loud music....That would P*** off anyone..especially if its the night before an exam as I had the joy of experiencing. I still think attendence should be considered though..sure we all miss the odd lecture but there are people who never bother going so campus is'nt a necessity for them..they dont get up in the morning so they dont have to worry about making theyre way over to college..as I said give the room to someone who will benefit from living on campus!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cocoa


    *shadow* wrote: »
    I can deal with them not being as quite as angles on the way back to their appartment but its when they come in at 3am with a load of mates and they start playing loud music....That would P*** off anyone..especially if its the night before an exam as I had the joy of experiencing. I still think attendence should be considered though..sure we all miss the odd lecture but there are people who never bother going so campus is'nt a necessity for them..they dont get up in the morning so they dont have to worry about making theyre way over to college..as I said give the room to someone who will benefit from living on campus!!

    administrational nightmare to be honest... Not all modules have monitored attendance, some entire courses have no monitored attendance...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    cocoa wrote: »
    Not all modules have monitored attendance, some entire courses have no monitored attendance...

    But thats why I feel it should be bought in!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    cocoa wrote: »
    administrational nightmare to be honest... Not all modules have monitored attendance, some entire courses have no monitored attendance...


    Hate to admit it but have to agree.

    Apart from nursing I have not heard of any other course that involved clocking in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    *shadow* wrote: »
    But thats why I feel it should be bought in!!

    Hey balls to that! For f*ck sake are you nuts!
    Just because you got stuck with some lousy roommates doesn't mean the rest of us should suffer.
    Were in college not secondary school, grow up and learn to stick up for yourself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cocoa


    *shadow* wrote: »
    But thats why I feel it should be bought in!!

    What is why you feel it should be brought in? All you quoted was me saying it wasn't there, you think it should be brought in because it isn't currently there? poor logic at best...

    If you think it should be brought in just so applications for campus accommodation can be better vetted I'd have to say, with respect, that's a waste of money and resources.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    cocoa wrote: »
    What is why you feel it should be brought in? All you quoted was me saying it wasn't there, you think it should be brought in because it isn't currently there?

    Fair enough I see I didnt attribute that correctly. Yes I feel they should look at introducing it, but thats in an idealistic world and I'm afraid the reality is never as clear cut.

    It just annoys me when people dont bother turning up for lectures or handing in assignments, that place could really have gone to someone who was willing to work hard. Campus Res overall needs to review its system Imo..the lottery system just does not work hence the fact other colleges did away with it!!

    In relation to the other posters little outburst, if you want to see something 'secondary school' like then just have another look at your post


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cocoa


    *shadow* wrote: »
    Fair enough I see I didnt attribute that correctly. Yes I feel they should look at introducing it, but thats in an idealistic world and I'm afraid the reality is never as clear cut.

    It just annoys me when people dont bother turning up for lectures or handing in assignments, that place could really have gone to someone who was willing to work hard. Campus Res overall needs to review its system Imo..the lottery system just does not work hence the fact other colleges did away with it!!

    You've got a point, but would you really trust campus res as it currently exists to implement a fair system? The one advantage of the lottery is that it insures there won't be preference given where it is unfair to do so. I'm leaving campus for good at the end of the year but from my past two years experience, I wouldn't be expecting the best results...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    *shadow* wrote: »
    In relation to the other posters little outburst, if you want to see something 'secondary school' like then just have another look at your post

    Outburst? Yeah I'm the one overreacting. Who wants to introduce mandatory attendance for all courses in DCU? The world revolves around the sun not you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭g5fd6ow0hseima


    Daysha wrote: »
    you thought I said you needed to be a drunken mess to enjoy yourself on a night out :confused:

    To me, the majority are. Sober people have manners when returning, ofter being those in the group telling drunks to be quiet etc....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭g5fd6ow0hseima


    riemann wrote: »
    Ur half right, drink brings out the worst in people but it also brings out their genuine character.
    Albeit it drastically lower inhibitions


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