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The worst thing about this recession

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  • 07-05-2009 3:38pm
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    Fighting Irish
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    Is all the jealousy it has brought out in people towards other people who have money.
    Its not their fault they were sensible with their money and job choice.

    Also its not the banks fault that you have a €400K mortgage that you're finding hard to pay back
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    mike65
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    Doing well eh? ;)


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    #3
    Loopy
    Registered Users Posts: 12,220 ✭✭✭✭Loopy


    Another Recession thread:eek:


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    Saibh
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    Stephen will be disappointed to see another recession thread...


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    Dudess
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    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    Is all the jealousy it has brought out in people towards other people who have money.
    Its not their fault they were sensible with their money and job choice.
    ... trumped only by the sneering at people who have lost everything and the assumption it's because they weren't sensible, when it could happen to anyone.
    Job choice? By your logic, anyone who didn't go for a public sector position wasn't being sensible...


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    RossFixxxed
    Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    Hey you let's fight post about the recession!




    Them's fightin recession talk!


    And now we have 1000000 threads on this. You know what sucks? You do. And me for posting and this elevating this.

    I'm cold and hungry and bored.


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    RandolphEsq
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    The worst thing about the recession is that it was allowed to happen. Bogger developers with their bogger associates who were not educated and used to money were allowed to run the place. Simple people who should never have been afforded entire 'Boom Pies' when a slice was good enough for them. When will you people learn that democracy just doesn't work


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    AnonoBoy
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    Dear OP,

    What recession?

    Yours in denial,

    AnonoBoy


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    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    mike65 wrote: »
    Doing well eh? ;)

    No just not doing **** and bitching about it like its not my fault


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    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Dudess wrote: »
    ... trumped only by the sneering at people who have lost everything and the assumption it's because they weren't sensible, when it could happen to anyone.
    Job choice? By your logic, anyone who didn't go for a public sector position wasn't being sensible...

    I wasn't saying it like that, i'm not in public sector but everyone seems to be against public workers like its their fault


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    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    No just not doing **** and bitching about it like its not my fault
    How would it be someone's fault if they weren't taking the piss during the boom years but are still ****ed now because they've been laid off?


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    flanzer
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    Cry me a river


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    Mr.Lizard
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    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    Also its not the banks fault that you have a €400K mortgage that you're finding hard to pay back

    Eh yes it is. I'd compare what the banks do to an adult giving a child poison and telling them it's sweets. When the child gets sick it's somehow suddenly the childs fault for liking sweets?

    Most adults really don't have a clue when it comes to basic economics and furthermore it's not their fault either. Western society doesn't educate people on the financial matters that apply to their life deliberately so they'll just fall into the trap like everyone else and then spend the rest of their lives working like a virtual slave to get out of it. There should be mandatory classes in school to teach people how to manage money .... but of course that'd never happen because government and the banks would rather keep us in the dark from day one.


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    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Dudess wrote: »
    How would it be someone's fault if they weren't taking the piss during the boom years but are still ****ed now because they've been laid off?

    Save money and cut the sh1t once the sh1t hits the fan


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    Mr.Lizard
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    (Financially secure here btw)


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    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Mr.Lizard wrote: »
    Eh yes it is. I'd compare what the banks do to an adult giving a child poison and telling them it's sweets. When the child gets sick it's somehow suddenly the childs fault for liking sweets?

    Most adults really don't have a clue when it comes to basic economics and furthermore it's not their fault either. Western society doesn't educate people on the financial matters that apply to their life deliberately so they'll just fall into the trap like everyone else and then spend the rest of their lives working like a virtual slave to get out of it. There should be mandatory classes in school to teach people how to manage money .... but of course that'd never happen because government and the banks would rather keep us in the dark from day one.

    If you can't firgure out,
    "Don't spend more than you have and save a little for a rainy day"
    Then theres no hope for you


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    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Mr.Lizard wrote: »
    (Financially secure here btw)

    Have ya got a euro for the bus?
    I lost me job and have no money, its the governments fault, no wait its the banks fault


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    CreepingDeath
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    The worst thing about this recession is it didn't come sooner.

    Could've avoided a few hundred thousand immigrants coming in and increasing the current problem.


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    Mr.Lizard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    If you can't firgure out,
    "Don't spend more than you have and save a little for a rainy day"
    Then theres no hope for you

    You say that but I can understand that for a person who entered the workforce at the begining of the goodtimes that they might presume it'd always be that way.


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    el_tiddlero
    Registered Users Posts: 400 ✭✭el_tiddlero


    money is an imaginary concept. it makes little difference to the state of your soul if you are rich as can be, or balls-deep in debt.
    Realise the actuality of your inner power, see the world as it really is. Don't believe these false imaginings that the fools want you to gobble up like turkeys in time for christmas mass.
    Fight the dream power of the oppressors. They have no gums.

    also, anyone got a lend of a fiver?


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    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Mr.Lizard wrote: »
    You say that but I can understand that for a person who entered the workforce at the begining of the goodtimes that they might presume it'd always be that way.

    So its their fault for presuming


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    Dudess
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    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    Save money and cut the sh1t once the sh1t hits the fan
    So if a father of three children (all under working age) earning a moderate wage which is the household's only income, with a modest mortgage and little or no debts and even some savings is laid off... he has no reason to complain or worry when the jobs market is as bad as it is? Sure...


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    ewj1978
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    was poor before it, during it , and after it. meh! Screw ye if ye can't afford your 2 holidays a year and another 42" LCD.


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    bladespin
    Registered Users Posts: 7,338 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Dudess wrote: »
    So if a father of three children (all under working age) earning a moderate wage which is the household's only income, with a modest mortgage and little or no debts and even some savings is laid off... he has no reason to complain or worry when the jobs market is bad as it is? Sure...


    Looking at some recent posts (38k on the dole) they might actually be better off.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055543315&highlight=38k

    Worst thing about the recession seems to be the amount of people talking it up instead of doing something about it.


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    Dudess
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    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    Have ya got a euro for the bus?
    I lost me job and have no money, its the governments fault, no wait its the banks fault
    Well actually, a good deal of it is for those who weren't fools with money during the good times. Are you saying if that was the case for you (I'm fairly confident it isn't and you're in permanent employment) you'd still say "Ah I must not complain. Even though it's not my fault, it... is"?


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    Dudess
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    ewj1978 wrote: »
    was poor before it, during it , and after it. meh! Screw ye if ye can't afford your 2 holidays a year and another 42" LCD.
    Oh yes, because of course, if a person loses their job, their main concern is not being able to afford two holidays a year and another 42" LCD.


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    #27
    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Dudess wrote: »
    So if a father of three children (all under working age) earning a moderate wage which is the household's only income, with a modest mortgage and little or no debts and even some savings is laid off... he has no reason to complain or worry when the jobs market is as bad as it is? Sure...

    Well maybe he does a little, but he has no right to be all cun.ty to people who still have jobs or money


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    ewj1978
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    Dudess wrote: »
    Oh yes, because of course, if a person loses their job, their main concern is not being able to afford two holidays a year and another 42" LCD.


    no. they'd be worried about paying for their overpriced house's massive mortgage.

    some public sector nub actually came out with not being able to afford his summer holiday abroad...poor him


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    #29
    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Dudess wrote: »
    Well actually, a good deal of it is for those who weren't fools with money during the good times. Are you saying if that was the case for you (I'm fairly confident it isn't and you're in permanent employment) you'd still say "Ah I must not complain. Even though it's not my fault, it... is"?

    I'm not in permanent employment, and i don't get what you're trying to say :o


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    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    What I mean is: would you not be pissed off and upset if you lost your job?
    ewj1978 wrote: »
    no. they'd be worried about paying for their overpriced house's massive mortgage.
    :confused: Or... maybe they wouldn't? Why this assumption that everyone who loses their job and is freaked about it is someone who was a muppet with money during the boom?


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    #31
    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Dudess wrote: »
    Oh yes, because of course, if a person loses their job, their main concern is not being able to afford two holidays a year and another 42" LCD.

    I agree but what about the last ten years when they did blow money on that sorta sh1t, i betcha that money would come in handy now if they had saved it


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