Racing Post Money Printing Thread - Mod note post 1572

essexman

dinolo wrote: »

had a look at priests leap.i think the trip is a bit sharp for it and it may be getting a run in before it goes for the same race again in the new year.having said that it is a big price for a horse of that quality.

you called that right. I'm still backing him in next years national if he runs

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SUN 13th December
Pricewise Extra
Saturday and Sunday ONLY
5 losers (TS)
1 winners
Present Sequence 4 losers

Profit/Loss@SP..............+9
Profit/Loss@AdvisedPrice +11
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The overall picture this month
PWE Mon/Fri - 8 at SP
PWE Tom Segal +9 at SP
Price Column + 4.25 at SP
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Tom Segal Pricewise Column
3 losers (TS)
2 winners (5/1-9/4) (22/1-8/1)
Present Sequence 1212223...................... Hitting the crossbar!

[EMAIL="Profit/Loss@SP................+4.25"]P[/email]rofit/Loss@SP................+4.25
Profit/Loss@AdvisedPrice +23

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pizzor wrote: »

wow that is a harsh sequence

Yeah, plus a 3rd today. I seem to remember a lot of them get placed and was keeping track with the idea of backing them on the place market to fund the win bet. E.G if it was 6/10 a place £100 on would cover a £60 win bet, if it was placed of course. I dont know how it would pan out. If I could find a full record for Segal that gave the placed horses it would be a lot easier to figure.

mike65

Plumpton Sir Bumble 3.10

Seanohea

Sir Bumble
3.10 Plumpton
1pt win 15-2

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Fri 11th December PRICEWISE EXTRA
Monday - Friday
11 losers
1 Winners
Andrew Barr 1-3 (7/2-2/1 2pts) SEQ 3013
Mel Collier 0-5 (2 Wins from last 27 bets)
Matt Williams 0-1*
Ben Hutton 0-2 Sub
Profit at advised Stakes Minus -6
Profit at SP.................. Minus -9
Present Sequence ***_____11000000000000000000001000000000100000

NOV Profit/Loss@SP .................Minus -13
OCT Profit/Loss@SP ..................Plus 28.5

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I just got in. Was todays tip a non runner by any chance?

pizzor

Meridian City lost came second stuffed up second last jump, SP 2.25 was a 1 pointer.

PWE looks like going into the red agian if not in the red with mel collier up next 2 days.

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pizzor wrote: »

Meridian City lost came second stuffed up second last jump, SP 2.25 was a 1 pointer.

PWE looks like going into the red agian if not in the red with mel collier up next 2 days.

Such a short price? What price was it advised if you know?

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Tues 15th December PRICEWISE EXTRA
Monday - Friday
12 losers
1 Winners
Andrew Barr 1-4 (7/2-2/1 2pts) SEQ 30132
Mel Collier 0-5 (2 Wins from last 27 bets)
Matt Williams 0-1*
Ben Hutton 0-2 Sub
Profit at advised Stakes Minus -7
Profit at SP.................. Minus -10
Present Sequence ***_____110000000000000000000010000000001000000

NOV Profit/Loss@SP .................Minus -13
OCT Profit/Loss@SP ..................Plus 28.5

pizzor

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Such a short price? What price was it advised if you know?

advised at 7/2

mike65

Looks like Parpaillot 12.50 7s from 8s, will fav Fistral Beach finally win a race?

pizzor

Tip was Parpaillot at 2pts advised at 8-1, SP 12-1, mel collier should really be replaced now his record is absoutely terrible he costs PWE a better record. They should replace him with Ben Hutton his having a really good run in his Yule Blog Advent Calender on the RP website.

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pizzor wrote: »

Tip was Parpaillot at 2pts advised at 8-1, SP 12-1, mel collier should really be replaced now his record is absoutely terrible he costs PWE a better record. They should replace him with Ben Hutton his having a really good run in his Yule Blog Advent Calender on the RP website.

Couldnt agree more. I stopped backing him ages ago and lapsed a few time, but never again. I think he would need to tip a 20/1 winner just to get back to level for the last 8 weeks.

Backed in to 7/1 ,drifted to 10/1 and pulled up before the 4th last.

pizzor

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Couldnt agree more. I stopped backing him ages ago and lapsed a few time, but never again. I think he would need to tip a 20/1 winner just to get back to level for the last 8 weeks.

Backed in to 7/1 ,drifted to 10/1 and pulled up before the 4th last.

thanks to you im not backing him

mike65

Hello to the Racing Post boys

Have you thought about finding a new tipster? Mel Collier has been proven to be poor, very poor. All pickers hit bad patches but his strike rate is awful.

Seanohea

I've started laying mel collier's tips today, i should make a good profit. Hopefully he doesnt pull a 16/1 winner out of the blue. He's an absolute disaster. Just going to lay for a fiver a tip, for a laugh as well as a profit.
The pricewise extra lads arent doing that great themselves without having a liability like mel collier tipping.
I'm not so sure about Ben Hutton, but he'd be worth a try for a while anyway, cant be any worse than collier.

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Weds 16th December PRICEWISE EXTRA
Monday - Friday
13 losers
1 Winners
Andrew Barr 1-4 (7/2-2/1 2pts) SEQ 30132
Mel Collier 0-6 (2 Wins from last 28 bets)
Matt Williams 0-1*
Ben Hutton 0-2 Sub
Profit at advised Stakes Minus -9
Profit at SP.................. Minus -12
Present Sequence ***_____1100000000000000000000100000000010000000

NOV Profit/Loss@SP .................Minus -13
OCT Profit/Loss@SP ..................Plus 28.5

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Seanohea wrote: »

I've started laying mel collier's tips today, i should make a good profit. Hopefully he doesnt pull a 16/1 winner out of the blue. He's an absolute disaster. Just going to lay for a fiver a tip, for a laugh as well as a profit.
The pricewise extra lads arent doing that great themselves without having a liability like mel collier tipping.
I'm not so sure about Ben Hutton, but he'd be worth a try for a while anyway, cant be any worse than collier.

lol. thats quite funny. In effect saying, not only is he so bad I wont back him. I actually lay him.

pizzor

yo point just a correction on ur thing should be -9 and -12 due to mel colliers "2 pointer".

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pizzor wrote: »

yo point just a correction on ur thing should be -9 and -12 due to mel colliers "2 pointer".

I fixed that and thanks for keeping an eye on it. Its easy to make the odd mistake. The small amount of stats we have appear to confirm that Seans idea a few months ago that Tom Segal and Andrew Barr on PWE were the only ones worth following. Segal can have long losing runs with the paper tips, but I have been backing him for a good few years, so I always do his.

qc3

Cabinet Minister 1.50 Exeter 22s - 14s

Seanohea

Ah well, i cant lay it at those odds, might put 1 euro on it

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Good jockey, but very small stable with no history of pulling off a betting coup. I think it will drift from 12's out to 20's and be unplaced. If it gets backed in to 7 or 8 I would be worried it might win.

pizzor

on the page it says writes ben hutton after a paragraph but theres a picture of mel collier on top what the hell is happening lol

mike65

Cabinet Minister is shortening...10s

pizzor

mike65 wrote: »

Cabinet Minister is shortening...10s

16s on betfair

mike65

Already looking unlikely.

pizzor

yep another failure lol

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qc3 wrote: »

Cabinet Minister 1.50 Exeter 22s - 14s

That looked like a non trier to me. It travelled well, jumped well but was never asked a serious question. No doubt its handicap mark will be dropped. I wouldnt be surprised if it won in the future.