Racing Post Money Printing Thread - Mod note post 1572

pizzor · 11-02-2010 11:02AM

sup bobbybigt yer its tough now but we gotta stick thru it things will turn around soon for sure

winslow · 11-02-2010 11:14AM

bobbybigt wrote: »

Hello guys,

Firstly - great thread, I've been reading it with interest for the past couple of months, was certainly very handy when I wasn't a subscriber to PWE.

I've been backing PWE since April 2009 and since then I am 143.91 pts in profit - I usually get advised price 75% of the time so not a too shabby profit. Although the last couple of months have not been great, but that's the way it goes I guess. I've stopped backing Mel C's tips (he should go back to the spice girls) thanks to the stats on this thread.

Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for all the stats and don't get too down-hearted about the run at the moment, I'm sure it will turn around.

Since you have been following PWE since April, would you know when Tom Segal's best months were? He seemed to be picking winners and sometimes doubles almost every week until jumps started. Maybe better to ease off on him too for a little? I think he hasn't had a winner for two or three weeks now.

pizzor · 11-02-2010 11:19AM

yer tom segal is a freak on the flat lol

bobbybigt · 11-02-2010 12:07PM

winslow wrote: »

Since you have been following PWE since April, would you know when Tom Segal's best months were? He seemed to be picking winners and sometimes doubles almost every week until jumps started. Maybe better to ease off on him too for a little? I think he hasn't had a winner for two or three weeks now.

Here's my month-by-month breakdown for Tom Segals PWE:

April 15 Bets 4 Winners +19.50 pts profit
May 17 Bets 3 Winners +3.00
June 12 Bets 4 Winners +21.50
July 12 Bets 4 Winners +17.00
August 17 bets 4 winners +17.00
Sept 14 bets 3 winners +17.50
Oct 15 bets 2 winners +11.00
Nov 12 bets 2 winners +6.00
Dec 14 bets 2 winners +8.50
Jan 14 bets 2 winners +6.00

These are just his Pricewise extra, not got any for his paper tips unfortunately, although I do try and follow them.

ghosttown · 11-02-2010 12:11PM

Has anyone a record of who in racing post is best Cheltenham tipster ? Both in the weeks before and during the actual week ?
Thanks

Golfing · 11-02-2010 01:21PM

bobbybigt wrote: »

Hello guys,

Firstly - great thread, I've been reading it with interest for the past couple of months, was certainly very handy when I wasn't a subscriber to PWE.

I've been backing PWE since April 2009 and since then I am 143.91 pts in profit - I usually get advised price 75% of the time so not a too shabby profit. Although the last couple of months have not been great, but that's the way it goes I guess. I've stopped backing Mel C's tips (he should go back to the spice girls) thanks to the stats on this thread.

Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for all the stats and don't get too down-hearted about the run at the moment, I'm sure it will turn around.

Those figures tally with mine. Good work. I agree about Mel C's tips! Glad your thinking long term mate.

qc3 · 11-02-2010 01:22PM

racing Post not showing the most backed.
They must be worried

mike65 · 11-02-2010 02:25PM

Anyone got the pick today?

markhiggins · 11-02-2010 02:41PM

classic blue 6 oclock in Kempton

candlegrease · 11-02-2010 04:00PM

bobbybigt wrote: »

Here's my month-by-month breakdown for Tom Segals PWE:

April 15 Bets 4 Winners +19.50 pts profit
May 17 Bets 3 Winners +3.00
June 12 Bets 4 Winners +21.50
July 12 Bets 4 Winners +17.00
August 17 bets 4 winners +17.00
Sept 14 bets 3 winners +17.50
Oct 15 bets 2 winners +11.00
Nov 12 bets 2 winners +6.00
Dec 14 bets 2 winners +8.50
Jan 14 bets 2 winners +6.00

These are just his Pricewise extra, not got any for his paper tips unfortunately, although I do try and follow them.

These figures are at advised price. He is in profit at SP tho.

POINTBREAK · 11-02-2010 09:37PM

Thurs::::Febuary PRICEWISE EXTRA
Monday - Friday 9W 76L.........>10% Strike Rate!
11 Losers
1 Winners
Andrew Barr 1-4 SEQ 30132020/120000F0210/00001
Mel Collier 0-5 (2 Wins from last 44 bets)
Matt Williams 0-1
James Pyman 0-0
Profit at advised Stakes ............-11
Profit at SP................................-11.5
Jan Profit/Loss @SP..................Minus 5.88
Dec Profit/Loss @SP .................Minus -21
NOV Profit/Loss@SP .................Minus -13
OCT Profit/Loss @SP ................Plus +28.5
SEPT Profit/Loss@SP ................Minus - 1.5* incl Segal PWE
AUG Profit/Loss@SP .................Plus +26.5* incl Segal
MvP1 2-6-8 +1.5
MvP2 0-0-0 +0
Present Seq -- 0/10/34/0/01/00/23/F/32/00/1/0/0
Mvp1 Se- ----1/34/22/n/nn/0n/xx/X/n0/n1/n/n/n

POINTBREAK · 12-02-2010 01:51AM

bobbybigt wrote: »

Here's my month-by-month breakdown for Tom Segals PWE:

April 15 Bets 4 Winners +19.50 pts profit
May 17 Bets 3 Winners +3.00
June 12 Bets 4 Winners +21.50
July 12 Bets 4 Winners +17.00
August 17 bets 4 winners +17.00
Sept 14 bets 3 winners +17.50
Oct 15 bets 2 winners +11.00
Nov 12 bets 2 winners +6.00
Dec 14 bets 2 winners +8.50
Jan 14 bets 2 winners +6.00

These are just his Pricewise extra, not got any for his paper tips unfortunately, although I do try and follow them.

These stats are huge.
An outlay of 140 points returns 267 points
30 winners for a strike rate of 21.5%
An ROI of just over 90%!
Are you sure these are right? I reckon you need an average price of 8/1 (actually 7.9 to 1)to achieve the numbers.

bobbybigt · 12-02-2010 09:16AM

POINTBREAK wrote: »

These stats are huge.
An outlay of 140 points returns 267 points
30 winners for a strike rate of 21.5%
An ROI of just over 90%!
Are you sure these are right? I reckon you need an average price of 8/1 (actually 7.9 to 1)to achieve the numbers.

These are indeed correct.. my spreadsheet never lies

Also, I would like to say that they are not at advised prices - they are at available prices - you have to be quick and you have to have accounts with most bookies - even then there are plenty of times when I've haven't got the advised prices.

Finally I hadn't really looked in depth, but the above stats mean TS has made me a profit of 127 pts since April - which means the rest of the PWE crew have only made 16.91 pts profit in that time (and that is without Mel C for the past 6 weeks)) - almost not worth bothering with the rest of them.

essexman · 12-02-2010 12:24PM

Almost?

I'm going for a sub at the start of the flat for TS PWE's and leaving it at that.

POINTBREAK · 12-02-2010 01:02PM

essexman wrote: »

Almost? I'm going for a sub at the start of the flat for TS PWE's and leaving it at that.

It certainly looks that way. The only danger is he went through a purple patch last year and he won't repeat it this year. Its a pity we don't have the stats for the last 6 or 7 years.
But even in the bad months Oct/Nov/Dec/Jan he still has ....
8 WINNERS FROM 55 BETS
Strike Rate 14.5% Profit 31.5 Points.
ROI =57%............That is still huge, but it means you needed to get an average price of almost 10/1 for the 8 winners (actually 9.8/1). If I get time I will go back over 4 months and list the 8 winners and prices.

Golfing · 12-02-2010 01:14PM

POINTBREAK wrote: »

These stats are huge.
An outlay of 140 points returns 267 points
30 winners for a strike rate of 21.5%
An ROI of just over 90%!
Are you sure these are right? I reckon you need an average price of 8/1 (actually 7.9 to 1)to achieve the numbers.

So then, it would seem my stats were correct you non-believer.

Also regarding "shame you dont have 6 or 7 years worth of stats" well as I keep telling you PWE started in February 2009!

POINTBREAK · 12-02-2010 01:51PM

Golfing wrote: »

So then, it would seem my stats were correct you non-believer.

Also regarding "shame you dont have 6 or 7 years worth of stats" well as I keep telling you PWE started in February 2009!

It doesn't mean anything of the sort. You didn't post any stats for Tom Segal on PWE.
I am well aware when PWE started and I stand by my statement that it is a shame we don't have 6 or 7 years of stats. If you think you are being smart, you need to think again.

mike65 · 12-02-2010 02:04PM

Drumpellier 1.45 Southwell unplaced
Dover’s Hill 2.00 Kempton placed

Dovers Hill is also a Hugh Taylor pick, who is colder?

thesandeman · 12-02-2010 02:28PM

Wayne has gone for Dovers Hill as well so it looks like we have a consensus. All we need now is Semipro to round off the team.

pizzor · 12-02-2010 03:06PM

ive had so many clsoe bets this month feels like im getting punished lol

POINTBREAK · 12-02-2010 05:27PM

Friday::::Febuary PRICEWISE EXTRA
Monday - Friday 9W 78L.........>10% Strike Rate!
13 Losers
1 Winners
Andrew Barr 1-4 SEQ 30132020/120000F0210/00001
Mel Collier 0-5 (2 Wins from last 44 bets)
Matt Williams 0-1
James Pyman 0-2
Profit at advised Stakes ............-13
Profit at SP................................-13.5
Jan Profit/Loss @SP..................Minus 5.88
Dec Profit/Loss @SP .................Minus -21
NOV Profit/Loss@SP .................Minus -13
OCT Profit/Loss @SP ................Plus +28.5
SEPT Profit/Loss@SP ................Minus - 1.5* incl Segal PWE
AUG Profit/Loss@SP .................Plus +26.5* incl Segal
MvP1 3-6-8 +8.5
MvP2 0-0-0 +0
Present Seq -- 0/10/34/0/01/00/23/F/32/00/1/0/0/02
Mvp1 Se- ----1/34/22/n/nn/0n/xx/X/n0/n1/n/n/n/01

POINTBREAK · 12-02-2010 05:29PM

mike65 wrote: »

Drumpellier 1.45 Southwell unplaced
Dover’s Hill 2.00 Kempton placed....Summery Justice was backed from 12/1 to 7/1 and was the only horse supported against PWE.

Dovers Hill is also a Hugh Taylor pick, who is colder?

.......... http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/kempton/14:00

Golfing · 12-02-2010 06:09PM

POINTBREAK wrote: »

It doesn't mean anything of the sort. You didn't post any stats for Tom Segal on PWE.
I am well aware when PWE started and I stand by my statement that it is a shame we don't have 6 or 7 years of stats. If you think you are being smart, you need to think again.

No I posted EVERY winner, AND monthly breakdown for all tipsters. You can clearly see, that if Segal is producing those figures above, then my figures must also be correct.

Do get off my back. Your showing to be a nasty piece of work.

How can you stand by your statement? The servie has only been going a year! There is no reasoning at all pointbreak. How can you have stats for something which wasnt even invented! OMG

essexman · 12-02-2010 07:46PM

In his post about 6 or 7 years I think Pointbreak was referring to Tom Segal over that period in reply to my mentioning following him through the summer,

POINTBREAK · 12-02-2010 07:58PM

Golfing wrote: »

No I posted EVERY winner, AND monthly breakdown for all tipsters. You can clearly see, that if Segal is producing those figures above, then my figures must also be correct.

Do get off my back. Your showing to be a nasty piece of work.

How can you stand by your statement? The servie has only been going a year! There is no reasoning at all pointbreak. How can you have stats for something which wasnt even invented! OMG

You can wish there was 7 years figures so you can get a better picture. Its a simple enough idea for most people.
As far as being a nasty piece of work.
It was you who tried to put us away on a golf bet so you could lay it off.
It was you who slagged off Semipro.
It was you who corrected my stats without any explanation. Making mistakes like boosting the RP strike rate to 12%.
Its you accusing people of being negative.
And its you making a ass of yourself by pouncing on every post I make trying to score points because I pulled you up on your golf bet.
Any regular poster can see that........... so go away.

Golfing · 12-02-2010 08:00PM

Anyway I am drawing a line under his petty fighting. I received a very nice PM from a member today - and I have decided not to even let pointbreak get under my skin, he has shown himself up already on other threads before.

End of matter as far as I can see.

Lets just have PWE give wins wins wins, hopefully starting with Segal tomorrow! Lovely!

POINTBREAK · 12-02-2010 08:01PM

essexman wrote: »

In his post about 6 or 7 years I think Pointbreak was referring to Tom Segal over that period in reply to my mentioning following him through the summer,

No Essex, I was just wishing there was 6 or 7 years of stats. I know when PWE started. Golfy boy just wants to jump on me when he thinks I have made a mistake. I explained it in my previous post to him.

fintonie · 13-02-2010 05:37AM

Golfing wrote: »

No I posted EVERY winner, AND monthly breakdown for all tipsters. You can clearly see, that if Segal is producing those figures above, then my figures must also be correct.

Do get off my back. Your showing to be a nasty piece of work.

How can you stand by your statement? The servie has only been going a year! There is no reasoning at all pointbreak. How can you have stats for something which wasnt even invented! OMG

not on here, your a pleb trying to start shhhhiite pointbreak keep er lit

dinolo · 13-02-2010 09:26AM

pricewise

3.05 newbury

manyriverstocross 11/1 coral and stan james

already advised

ronaldo des mottes 16/1

Golfing · 13-02-2010 09:26AM

Pricewise: 3.05 Newbury, Manyriverstocross (1pt @ 11/1 Coral & Stan James) - already advised (antepost) Ronaldo Des Mottes (1pt @ 16/1)

edit: lol snap

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