Remapping Day

E39MSport

I got my RRS done by this crowd http://www.evolveyourcar.co.uk/. They supply you with a piece of kit that you plug into the obdII port to download and save the original map. You plug the kit into a usb port on your pc, fire up the supplid software and mail them the map. They tune it and send it back for you to load back to the car. The kit enables you to switch between tuned and original maps for dealer visits etc. I gained 45Hp to 235BHP and also gained 100Nm Torque. Very noticeable in the mid range. Very Happy with it. total cost was 500 sterlings. The kit can be used on other vehicles once the original map is loaded back to the first vehicle. They charge a nominal fee for further remaps.

They have a handy tool on the site allowing you to see the gains for specific models.

Gumbo

E39MSport wrote: »

I got my RRS done by this crowd http://www.evolveyourcar.co.uk/. They supply you with a piece of kit that you plug into the obdII port to download and save the original map. You plug the kit into a usb port on your pc, fire up the supplid software and mail them the map. They tune it and send it back for you to load back to the car. The kit enables you to switch between tuned and original maps for dealer visits etc. I gained 45Hp to 235BHP and also gained 100Nm Torque. Very noticeable in the mid range. Very Happy with it. total cost was 500 sterlings. The kit can be used on other vehicles once the original map is loaded back to the first vehicle. They charge a nominal fee for further remaps.

They have a handy tool on the site allowing you to see the gains for specific models.

good gains there, autoremap do this too, they save your existing map incase of future problems. have you noticed increased or decrease fuel economy?

Neilw

kceire wrote: »

your asking for trouble imo, those cars are near to their limits already!

I doub't that very much, I am nearly sure the tsi 170 uses the same turbo (k03) as the 2.0 golf gti and it is well capeable of 250+bhp.
Pushing the 1.4 tsi to 210 shouldn't be a problem at all

Gumbo

Neilw wrote: »

I doub't that very much, I am nearly sure the tsi 170 uses the same turbo (k03) as the 2.0 golf gti and it is well capeable of 250+bhp.
Pushing the 1.4 tsi to 210 shouldn't be a problem at all

im not debateing weather it can or cant be mapped to 250bhp, which i dont thin it can be but thats another arguement. it might have the same turbo but the whole engine is different to the GTi engine.

i just passed on the info that was passed onto me, if a mapper recommends to me that 30bhp is pushing it but 20bhp isint, i would tend to listen to him.

but the OP can get his mapped, and hopefully it will be fine, it could simply just be a case of different safety margins between different mappers.

Neilw

kceire wrote: »

no probs, custom remaps will not work on bog standard cars, theres no need for it. by all means start a thread about angels and get a list from there, but im getting my car done with autoremap either way, weather im paying full price of 350e or a discount price if we can get 10 people between here and bmw-drivers then i'll do that.

anyway, the 33% discount applies if you can get 10 cars iirc, but theres only about 5-6 people from here that will go ahead with it, the rest are from bmw-drivers and they wont use angels, Martin in www.autoremap.ie would come with much more rep than them imo

no probs about the toe stepping, i didnt mean to sound like a nasty old school teacher....... now get up there and do 50 lines


your asking for trouble imo, those cars are near to their limits already!



i heard that too.

kceire wrote: »

im not debateing weather it can or cant be mapped to 250bhp, which i dont thin it can be but thats another arguement. it might have the same turbo but the whole engine is different to the GTi engine.

i just passed on the info that was passed onto me, if a mapper recommends to me that 30bhp is pushing it but 20bhp isint, i would tend to listen to him.

but the OP can get his mapped, and hopefully it will be fine, it could simply just be a case of different safety margins between different mappers.

I never said it could be mapped to 250bhp, the point I was making was that 210bhp would not put much extra stress on the engine or turbo as the turbo itself is safe at around 250bhp. 20bhp over its actual (190bhp) output is just over 10% increase so not much in reality.

Gumbo

NiSmO wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

im only copping on now, that as you say they dyno at 190bhp in the real world, then autoremap's 20bhp gain brings you up to 210bhp so its the same map just diferent figures being quoted.

i know the 140TSi engine usually runs really at about 160bhp but wasnt too sure about the 170TSi, hope this clears it up for you

Neilw wrote: »

I never said it could be mapped to 250bhp, the point I was making was that 210bhp would not put much extra stress on the engine or turbo as the turbo itself is safe at around 250bhp. 20bhp over its actual (190bhp) output is just over 10% increase so not much in reality.

sorry mate, misread your post

yeah i agree, i was quoteing an increase of 20bhp and the OP said he would rather go to the north to get the 210bhp but in reality its the same increase from autoremap, i was just quoteing the 170 figure if that makes sense, sorry for the confusion.

but also dont forget the GTi engine is a 2.0 lump where the TSi is a 1.4 lump, so that plays a big part in the potential increases.

cojomo2

whats gains for a 06 Pajero commercial 3.2 DID AUTO?

has the price been hammered out yet? Try squeeze him for 250, its a recession!

Redsoxfan

1. kceire 2005 BMW E90 320d Manual (163bhp)
2. Celtxx 2001 Vauxhall Omega 2.2DTi (119BHP)
3. jackncoke Skoda 1.8 T Octavia VRS (180hp)
4. TCP/IP 2004 Porsche Boxster S (260Bhp)
5. magown3 1999 Audi A4 1.9 TDi (110 bhp)
6. dunkindonuts 2007 VW Golf GTi (200bhp)
7. dunkindonuts mate 2009 BMW 118d (141bhp approx iirc)
8. HashSlinging SEAT Altea 2.0 Tdi (140bhp iirc)
9. Redsoxfan Alfa Romeo GT 1.9JTD (150bhp)

Gumbo

cojomo2 wrote: »

whats gains for a 06 Pajero commercial 3.2 DID AUTO?

has the price been hammered out yet? Try squeeze him for 250, its a recession!

its another jap car im afraid, so i dont know if it can be done or not.
i cant hammer a price until we get definates from everybody, and i cant get definates until we have a day agreed!

price wise, its normlly 350e, but we should be getting it for max 300e but less if we get more, so i would be budgeting 3003 for the remap, thats what im doing.

cojomo2

kceire wrote: »

its another jap car im afraid, so i dont know if it can be done or not.
i cant hammer a price until we get definates from everybody, and i cant get definates until we have a day agreed!

price wise, its normlly 350e, but we should be getting it for max 300e but less if we get more, so i would be budgeting 3003 for the remap, thats what im doing.

well thy have other smaller mitsubishi DID cars listed with gains of 30+hp so id say I should be able to get it up to 200hp which should be noticeable?Sent them a queery anyway just to check.

yeah i know what you are saying about the price but if we get 10 of us and say that we could take it or leave it I cant see them turning down 2500 quid of a job when you take into account that there are no costly parts involved...

Gumbo

cojomo2 wrote: »

well thy have other smaller mitsubishi DID cars listed with gains of 30+hp so id say I should be able to get it up to 200hp which should be noticeable?Sent them a queery anyway just to check.

yeah i know what you are saying about the price but if we get 10 of us and say that we could take it or leave it I cant see them turning down 2500 quid of a job when you take into account that there are no costly parts involved...

totally understand mate, we have 9 confirmed in the list from here and we have 6 from bmw-drivers forum, so were looking good on numbers.

we might get it down to that price fingers crossed!

bazz26

cojomo2 wrote: »

well thy have other smaller mitsubishi DID cars listed with gains of 30+hp so id say I should be able to get it up to 200hp which should be noticeable?Sent them a queery anyway just to check.

yeah i know what you are saying about the price but if we get 10 of us and say that we could take it or leave it I cant see them turning down 2500 quid of a job when you take into account that there are no costly parts involved...

Mitsubishi use VAG diesel engines in their cars too, the 2.0 DID is the same 2.0 TDi engine found in Audis to VWs. Maybe this is the one which can be tuned or remapped?

Gumbo

bazz26 wrote: »

Mitsubishi use VAG diesel engines in their cars too, the 2.0 DID is the same 2.0 TDi engine found in Audis to VWs. Maybe this is the one which can be tuned or remapped?

if it is, but is the OP's a 3.2 liter version?

i would imagine gains of about + 30/40bhp and 70-90Nm torques.

dunkindonuts

If you get him between 200-250 euro you will get many more people and thats good for him in recession times.I dont think many people are going to him nowadays.

If he doesnt agree then ask other companies that provide the similar service.

I would be willing to pay upto 250.

Gumbo

dunkindonuts wrote: »

If you get him between 200-250 euro you will get many more people and thats good for him in recession times.I dont think many people are going to him nowadays.

If he doesnt agree then ask other companies that provide the similar service.

I would be willing to pay upto 250.

250 would be great! he said the last mapping day at bmw-drivers he got it down to 250e but that was with 20 cars.

cojomo2

kceire wrote: »

if it is, but is the OP's a 3.2 liter version?

i would imagine gains of about + 30/40bhp and 70-90Nm torques.

just rang them..they dont do pajeros..pity. I know it can be done tho as i was gonna get it done when i bought the jeep 3 yrs ago but it was a bit expensive (500 ish)at the time..think it was a crowd in maynooth that told me they could do it ..westward engineering or something like that..come to think of it i dont think it was a remap they were ofering, but a diesel tuning box...(dont know what the difference is really)

thanks anyway

Gumbo

cojomo2 wrote: »

just rang them..they dont do pajeros..pity. I know it can be done tho as i was gonna get it done when i bought the jeep 3 yrs ago but it was a bit expensive (500 ish)at the time..think it was a crowd in maynooth that told me they could do it ..westward engineering or something like that..come to think of it i dont think it was a remap they were ofering, but a diesel tuning box...(dont know what the difference is really)

thanks anyway

martin in westward engineering can deffo do the pajero, but as you say, its not a remap, its a tuning box that needs to be fitted to your car. its basically a piggy back ecu that fits in and out in a few minutes.

gains can be good too, usually costs around 450-500e alright.
i know for my old D4D avensis, a tuning box and uprated air filter was 700e odd

Gumbo

at the moment we have from here :

1. kceire 2005 BMW E90 320d Manual (163bhp)
2. Celtxx 2001 Vauxhall Omega 2.2DTi (119BHP)
3. jackncoke Skoda 1.8 T Octavia VRS (180hp)
4. TCP/IP 2004 Porsche Boxster S (260Bhp)
5. magown3 1999 Audi A4 1.9 TDi (110 bhp)
6. dunkindonuts 2007 VW Golf GTi (200bhp)
7. dunkindonuts mate 2009 BMW 118d (141bhp approx iirc)
8. HashSlinging SEAT Altea 2.0 Tdi (140bhp iirc)
9. Redsoxfan Alfa Romeo GT 1.9JTD (150bhp)

and theres another 6 on www.bmw-drivers.net

next thing to do is to try hammer down a date or week day that everybody can make it.

i would imagine during the week is a no go for everybody is it? (Mon-Fri)

Harcrid

Sorry mate, I will have to withdraw.

Car is off the road since yesterday due to the need of a new ECU (according to the dealers anyway) and I don't it's worth me puttin €1,500 into considering it's probably not worth much more than that. Could be heading ot the great scrap yard in the sky. :-(

Gumbo

Celtxx wrote: »

Sorry mate, I will have to withdraw.

Car is off the road since yesterday due to the need of a new ECU (according to the dealers anyway) and I don't it's worth me puttin €1,500 into considering it's probably not worth much more than that. Could be heading ot the great scrap yard in the sky. :-(

no probs,

1. kceire 2005 BMW E90 320d Manual (163bhp)
2. jackncoke Skoda 1.8 T Octavia VRS (180hp)
3. TCP/IP 2004 Porsche Boxster S (260Bhp)
4. magown3 1999 Audi A4 1.9 TDi (110 bhp)
5. dunkindonuts 2007 VW Golf GTi (200bhp)
6. dunkindonuts mate 2009 BMW 118d (141bhp approx iirc)
7. HashSlinging SEAT Altea 2.0 Tdi (140bhp iirc)
8. Redsoxfan Alfa Romeo GT 1.9JTD (150bhp)

TestTransmission

You reincluded me Kceire,I should be off the list

Gumbo

jackncoke wrote: »

You reincluded me Kceire,I should be off the list

this is why i would like people to edit the list if their backing out, i didnt even know you backed out mate

1. kceire 2005 BMW E90 320d Manual (163bhp)
2. TCP/IP 2004 Porsche Boxster S (260Bhp)
3. magown3 1999 Audi A4 1.9 TDi (110 bhp)
4. dunkindonuts 2007 VW Golf GTi (200bhp)
5. dunkindonuts mate 2009 BMW 118d (141bhp approx iirc)
6. HashSlinging SEAT Altea 2.0 Tdi (140bhp iirc)
7. Redsoxfan Alfa Romeo GT 1.9JTD (150bhp)

dunkindonuts

I think if we keep at it we could get around 20 people as now its alread around 13 people.Put a thread on Vag Drivers and you might get afew from there. Its recession times he should offer abit more off the price

rocknchef

lads are you still going for the BH weekend in June? would love to get mine done but will be away at that time but if its the month after when i have some spare yoyos I would love to be in?

Gumbo

dunkindonuts wrote: »

I think if we keep at it we could get around 20 people as now its alread around 13 people.Put a thread on Vag Drivers and you might get afew from there. Its recession times he should offer abit more off the price

im not a member of vag, so if anybody is please do put up a thread and get in contact with me so we can add them to the list.

rocknchef wrote: »

lads are you still going for the BH weekend in June? would love to get mine done but will be away at that time but if its the month after when i have some spare yoyos I would love to be in?

im not 100% sure on june yet, still trying to confirm a venue. i will be getting mine done asap so im hopeing that june is the latest i will have to wait.

rocknchef

no bother ill keep an eye on this thread and see were it is when i get back.

thanks

Gumbo

rocknchef wrote: »

no bother ill keep an eye on this thread and see were it is when i get back.

thanks

please do, looking to get a date, venue and price confirmed ASAP.
and more importantly, looking to get the remap ASAP

E39MSport

kceire wrote: »

good gains there, autoremap do this too, they save your existing map incase of future problems. have you noticed increased or decrease fuel economy?

Economy is the same. I get about 28mpg before and after the remap. Last time I checked their site, they were working on an mpg lift map also.

K

TestTransmission

You took me out and then put me back in,its madness I tell ya

jackncoke wrote: »

I'll ave to pull out,I wont be in the country at the time by the looks of it

kceire wrote: »

no probs, sure keep an eye on this thread as it looks like the monday in june isint working with the people in germany :mad:

current list :

1. kceire 2005 BMW E90 320d Manual (163bhp)
2. Celtxx 2001 Vauxhall Omega 2.2DTi (119BHP)
3. HashSlinging SEAT Altea 2.0 Tdi (140bhp iirc)
4. bazz26 2006 Volvo S40 1.6
5. TCP/IP 2004 Porsche Boxster S (260Bhp)
6. magown3 1999 Audi A4 1.9 TDi (110 bhp)
7. dunkindonuts 2007 VW Golf GTi (200bhp)
8. dunkindonuts mate 2009 BMW 118d (141bhp approx iirc)

kceire wrote: »

this is why i would like people to edit the list if their backing out, i didnt even know you backed out mate

1. kceire 2005 BMW E90 320d Manual (163bhp)
2. TCP/IP 2004 Porsche Boxster S (260Bhp)
3. magown3 1999 Audi A4 1.9 TDi (110 bhp)
4. dunkindonuts 2007 VW Golf GTi (200bhp)
5. dunkindonuts mate 2009 BMW 118d (141bhp approx iirc)
6. HashSlinging SEAT Altea 2.0 Tdi (140bhp iirc)
7. Redsoxfan Alfa Romeo GT 1.9JTD (150bhp)

Gumbo

so is this the current list????

1. kceire 2005 BMW E90 320d Manual (163bhp)
2. TCP/IP 2004 Porsche Boxster S (260Bhp)
3. magown3 1999 Audi A4 1.9 TDi (110 bhp)
4. dunkindonuts 2007 VW Golf GTi (200bhp)
5. dunkindonuts mate 2009 BMW 118d (141bhp approx iirc)
6. HashSlinging SEAT Altea 2.0 Tdi (140bhp iirc)
7. Redsoxfan Alfa Romeo GT 1.9JTD (150bhp)