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The Aul Switcharoo wrote: »Here is mine. This is from a few months ago. Stance has narrowed stopping my right foot "slipping"
Currently off a 10 handicap but hoping to get better
Slow-mo is deadly!
I would say in the 1st video with the driver you are over swinging. The clubface has come right around in front of your eyes! It should be pointed at the target at the top of the backswing and parallel to the ground. The 2nd video is only a slight overswing and the 3rd with the iron looks perfect IMO0 -
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I must add the iron shot by Eoin in the last clip above is absolutely delicious.Alrite Chief wrote: »Looks like he caught it thin to me
Thanks! They are the best part of my game. My driving is piss poor. I've always had a problem with rolling my hands too much in the swing. If I don't it goes 50 yards right or snap-hook.
I've had the same swing since I was starting out. I tried to swing right for 4 months a couple of years ago and I went from nearly a 9 handicapper to a guy off 12 who couldn't get it near the course. Lately I've just been hitting 3 wood from the tee and I definitely had my most consistent year if not a great year for scoring. I quit my home club this year but in society I was close to GOY after 3 consecutive 38 pointers(Including 2 scratches and a pointer in my last 3 holes in one:rolleyes:)
From my POV
Driver: So inconsistent - some days I could hit 10 or 12 fairways averaging 250 or 260. Other days I can send it into the next parish
Woods: Hit 3wood mostly from tee these days. 8/10
Short Irons: 8/10
Long irons: 5/10
Putter: 6/10 - Decent if unspectacular
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The Aul Switcharoo wrote: »
From my POV
Driver: So inconsistent - some days I could hit 10 or 12 fairways averaging 250 or 260. Other days I can send it into the next parish
Long irons: 5/10
Would love to see a swing of you now, since you narrowed your stance......
Not that I am an expert, but i am speaking from experience because I had a similar problem myself a few years ago. But it could have something to do with your swaying movement through the ball. Because there is much less forgiveness with the driver and long irons than there is with a fairway wood or short iron. Your timing with a swing like yours has to be absolutely spot on.
Your lower body is constantly in motion. You sway yourself back a little on your backswing and then sway yourself through in a big way on the follow through. Your hands won't always have time to catch up and that's where the resulting slice or hook comes in.
Two things I worked on when I had this. I tried to picture my backswing mentally and imagine it stopping at about 3/4 of what my swing used to be.
The second thing was to rotate my hips and shoulders, rather than swaying. I would do this by thinking that my right foot was "planted" on the ground, and therefore my weight was being kept back a bit.
this worked for me. I started hitting the ball super straight and a decent length, though not as long as i was hitting it a couple of years ago. being straight was far better than being Out of Bounds 0 -
ajcurry123 wrote: »Most bad shots are slices Greebo and they generally come with my Driver (3 wood to lesser extent).
next time you're down at the range, see have that any "offset" drivers and 3-woods in stock and try hit them. Offset means the head of the club is at a slightly different angle to a normal clubhead. It guards against the slice and should result in your hitting much straighter golf shots. It works for me
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Hmm a closed stance can certainly cause the shanks, but I havent heard of weight on the front foot causing a closed stance. Unless you mean having it on the front, i.e. toes of your front foot?ajcurry123 wrote: »Most bad shots are slices Greebo and they generally come with my Driver (3 wood to lesser extent).
I'm also prone to the odd S***k with my irons, Pro said it was due to too much weight on left, left foot causing closed stance which forces my body trying to to try to get out of the way...if that makes sense.
The fact that you are even partially lifting your front foot to me says that you are not keeping the weight on it. Try to consciously do this...naturally your weight will shift to the other foot.ajcurry123 wrote: »I think I see what you do with my left leg, it does appear to come up a bit, but even though it does that just means that I am applying more pressure on the smaller area of my left foot.
I've been conscience of it since the lesson, and I'd say the weight balance on my left floats between 60-70% throughout the swing.
My left knee and leg are very loaded/(coiled?) throughout swing.
Personally I would worry about never getting your weight more than 70% forward, you should have almost nothing on the back foot at the finish, just using your toes for balance.ajcurry123 wrote: »Happy enough with it to be honest (sure I wouldn't post if not
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Rickylovesuall wrote: »Can probably forget everything i said. Just went for a lesson and my posture was awful. Cant believe the way i was standing. Rebuilding my swing all over again now
Still a work in progress but we've changed my posture dramatically and i now take away the club much straighter and higher instead of the flat swing i had before. My chin used to get in the way of my shoulder turn but not anymore by tilting my head up slightly.
Heres a video of how it looks so far, but there is still work to be done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLYcWoQ90a4&feature=youtube_gdata_player0 -
Rickylovesuall wrote: »Still a work in progress but we've changed my posture dramatically and i now take away the club much straighter and higher instead of the flat swing i had before. My chin used to get in the way of my shoulder turn but not anymore by tilting my head up slightly.
Heres a video of how it looks so far, but there is still work to be done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLYcWoQ90a4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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youre dropping your head by about a foot and swinging way too hard, so much so that you cant keep your balance.Rickylovesuall wrote: »Still a work in progress but we've changed my posture dramatically and i now take away the club much straighter and higher instead of the flat swing i had before. My chin used to get in the way of my shoulder turn but not anymore by tilting my head up slightly.
Heres a video of how it looks so far, but there is still work to be done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLYcWoQ90a4&feature=youtube_gdata_player0 -
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Rickylovesuall wrote: »Thanks for the tips greebo and Matt. It's still very much a work in progress that is going to take most of the winter to get right. I started making changes about 6 weeks ago and I have had to make a LOT of changes. I was massively stooped over the ball before with my hands somewhere down around my knees. God only knows how I managed to get to a handicap of 4 in the first place.
The posture is never gonna be fully straight or at least not for a very long time, my spine is curved naturally from almost 30 years of bad posture. Through golf and through being taller than most of my friends, I would stoop to talk to them. Even when I stand up completely straight [ or what seems completely straight to me ], the top of my back still has a hump on it.
The strange thing about the swinging too hard, I actually feel like I'm swinging quite slow, but will see if I can get it down much slower. It could also be something more that I have to make with my changes. Getting a more solid stance
Keep the advice coming. I think I might post more videos every once in a while and have a nice catalogue of the progress.
i wish I had a video of my old swing for comparison.
It doesn't look like its too far off to me. On the swinging too hard bit I find a great drill for tempo is taking swings with your feet together. If you swing to quick or hard you fall over. I often use it on the course if my tempo is off and find it really helps. Might be worth a go! Best of luck 0 -
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This is going to be a little disjointed and all over the place as I am just thinking as I type, but I hope it makes sense as to an idea of what i am trying to doTry hitting a few where you swing as hard as you can, then keep dialing it back until you can hold the finish until the ball lands.
Typically you want to be swinging at around 80% (or so "they" say!)
Whats your "bad" shot?
before the changes I didnt have one (seriously!) i just wasn't hitting the ball far enough to get down to scratch, which is my longterm goal, but since making the changes I could have a bad shot that literally does anything. I'm trying to think of a lot of things when making a swing, so it's possible then that I just forget to hit the ball the way I should, but when I do make that perfect swing, then Holey jesus it is "totes amazeballs!!!!"
It's a process and I'm only getting started on minespacecoyote wrote: »Maybe its just me, but your legs seems very straight at address, and then your left knee breaks a lot on the back swing.
I know that in my experience with lessons, I was always encouraged to have, as mentioned above, as straight back as possible, and to have some flex in my knees at address, but to try avoid having my knee collapse down on my backswing.
I agree on the knee thing. It's definitely something that probably shouldnt have happened quite as severly as it did, but I am trying to do so many other things at the same time, that something slips out of place more than it should
My problem before is that I had too much knee flex. I mean a ridiculous amount so we're dialling that back a lot. The process for my address to the ball is ::
Step 1, stand completely upright with my feet together.
Step 2, take a very gentle flex of my knees. Almost unnoticeable, especially in the tracksuit pants I wear. It's more noticeable in jeans or slacks.
Step 3, bend from the hips keeping my back straight until the club gets to the ground. The top of the shaft for me needs to be pointing at my belt buckle ( or wherever my belt buckle would be ) - really getting that club shaft up-right, compared to how it was with my old swing, pointing below my crotch.
From there, the swing is to go back as straight for as long as possible, getting some big shoulder turn, while getting my weight onto my right side.
Then at the top, transfer weight onto the middle-back of my left foot and kinda springboard myself into the shot. That's where I would generate some kneeflex as its meant to be kind of like a jumping motion.
e.g. if you go to make a normal jump, what you do, is press your feet against the ground to gain power in your leap and make height.
It's the same idea with the swing, in shifting the weight from right to left, it all starts from the left foot which presses into the turf and springs me up through my body.
I'm guessing with my swing, that that's where the exaggerated knee flex is probably coming from in this shot in that instead of shifting my weight properly, I have pushed the weight out a bit towards my toes instead of across my feet. But that's a guess, I'll be showing the video to my coach next week when I go for my next lesson to see what he says
After all that though, it's turn, turn, turn. I'm trying to get my hips to turn quicker through the shot, so that they are getting close to pointing at my target by the time I make contact with the ball. Generating the power there aswell and then at the end of my follow through, my club is almost pointing at the target at the end. That kind of rotation I could never have dreamed of before with my old swing. Even looking at it now, I can't believe that i am getting around that far.
I have gained about 15 yards off the tee with the driver since making these changes and my target was to try and get to 25 or 30 yards. So massive changes had to be made. Overall I am very happy with how they are coming along and cant wait to make some more
btw, do keep all the comments and stuff coming in. I've got a couple of hours free now so I'm heading out to the practice ground now to see if i can keep my balance, so we'll see how it goes 0
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