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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭kermitpwee


    GreeBo wrote: »
    I would disagree that there is no rhythm to my swing, its slow back sure but slow doesnr mean no rhythm!?

    Just had a look at your swing mate, I have played with a few players with slow backswings and it's no harm. I would have thought that you would be better than a nine handicap, one thing i have noticed is that you are losing height in the baclswing. If you look at your head at setup and on the way back you are not maintaing your height so you must find that you have very little space at impact as a result. I am not a pro but have been to a few! If I was to analyse your swing I would say the following.
    All your problems stem from the fact that you have to much weight on your left side at setup, as a result on your downswing you must try to hit up on the ball and squeeze it from the inside. If I was you I would try a 50 50 setup and see how you get on, I feel you will have lots more space at impact. When I refer to the weight i mean with your lower body, because your right hand is lower on the club your upperbody will have a slight tilt. Golf monthly can suggest 60 40 etc but for you I would go 50 50.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭judosean2005


    bump for help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    bump for help

    Hi Sean. Only a few weeks ..? Your not doing too bad so you look like you have decent coordination anyway .. And you take the club back on a good line so you have a good swing plane and deliver the club at a good angle of attack. Thats a really good place to be starting from.

    Rather than have people comment on random inconsistencies in your swing it is best to call it a blank slate and start from the beginning. So that means starting with the grip and posture. From what I can see they both look ok but maybe not perfect so I think the best thing is to do a bit of googling and start with them(Also google spine angle in golf swing). It will stand to you in a few months when you do them naturally and don't have to think about them as much when you move on to more advanced development in your swing.

    Also one thing I find worth informing beginners about is Lag. So do a bit of googling about lag in the golf swing. this is the technique that allows pros to swing in balance and make it look effortless and still it hit it miles. Most armatures including myself search for distance by over swinging with a death grip. If you understand how lag works it will allow you to stay balanced and still hit it far two very important things. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭chalkie 501


    I'm only 5 "2" but think that having low height helps in golf as you get more of an appreciation of the contours of the course and in particular the slopes of the green.

    :confused::confused::confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,677 ✭✭✭staker


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭jj72


    Impressed with some of the swings on here. Let me know what ye think of
    My own and any tips always appreciated. Cheers


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjtA-BUJ1Kk&feature=youtube_gdata_player


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,810 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    jj72 wrote: »
    Impresses with some of the swings on here. Let me know what ye think of
    My own and any tips always appreciated. Cheers


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjtA-BUJ1Kk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
    I cannot really comment too much as I'm a beginner but you might want to "show your studs" as the say for a bit longer. It all seems a bit rushed. You are nearly running after you tee the minute you stroked the ball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭jj72


    I cannot really comment too much as I'm a beginner but you might want to "show your studs" as the say for a bit longer. It all seems a bit rushed. You are nearly running after you tee the minute you stroked the ball.

    I wasnt in the posing mood :):) Any other comments or tips guys??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    Well lads anyone here ever deal with the problem of head dipping on your backswing and how to sort it..? can't seem to shake it , I'v been doing it for quite a while now .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭stockdam


    @k.p.h.

    You seem to be tilting your hips....your right hip and right knee move back along the line.

    Try swinging with a feeling that you are just turning your shoulders and your hips are resisting a bit (your hips will turn but hopefully not slide back along the line). So less movement and feel like it's a turn of the shoulders above a stable base.

    It's easy for lots of people to give you lots of advice.......most like mine will be quick and probably incorrect. I'd go to a pro and get him/her to work with you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭stockdam


    Maybe this will help to show what I mean........you need to get help on your setup and swing thoughts (like me and everyone else).


    kph.png




    rory.png



    Can you see how your hips are swaying onto the outside of your back foot whereas Rory doesn't? At the top of the swing, your right hip has slid past the line I drew whereas Rory's hasn't......maybe practice with a stick stuck into the ground just to the right of your right hip - you shouldn't touch it with your right hip on your backswing. Also notice how Rory's head has stayed behind his left hip - your head is above your left hip and it looks like you are almost falling forwards (a reverse pivot?). Hence it looks like your hips are sliding back down the line. Maybe cock your right knee in towards the ball at address and feel that you keep your hips passive/quiet (not easy to explain and like everything in golf you can overdo it).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    Thanks stockdam. That's a good help the stills really help put it into perspective. Can't see it properly on the videos but their is a huge amount of sway their :o

    No it's not a reverse pivot, but only since I throw the weight back(by swaying obviously :rolleyes: )

    Would you believe I have actually been working on my setup. The way my head tilts to my left is only minuet compared to what it has been in the past. Also battling open shoulders at address when I keep them square I feel as if I am going so far right it is not funny :eek:

    It's a wonder I even occasionally hit it straight ;) I appreciate the effort so thanks. Not sure where to start fixing this though :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    Seeing the ol swing in a still really bring out the use for the :o:eek: and :rolleyes: smilies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭stockdam


    k.p.h wrote: »
    It's a wonder I even occasionally hit it straight ;) I appreciate the effort so thanks. Not sure where to start fixing this though :rolleyes:

    You get through the ball well so my guess is that you hit the ball fairly well but can be erratic at times. I think you may be erratic because you need to get everything right to get back to impact perfectly. I think your hip slide is due to you wanting to hit the ball hard - a quiet backswing then a smooth forward swing can work well.

    A few tweaks and I think you'll be more consistent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    I think I'l actually start by getting my address correct and slow the tempo down as much as I can till I get things moving the right direction. I'l hit a couple of hundred balls this week and see how it go's. I'l keep you posted anyway. Appreciate the help it's hard to constructively criticise a swing when it's yourself you are looking at. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    k.p.h wrote: »
    Well lads anyone here ever deal with the problem of head dipping on your backswing and how to sort it..? can't seem to shake it , I'v been doing it for quite a while now .


    You seem to be collapsing on your left leg and moving the rest of the body with it like in that picture posted above there. If you can try to limit that it'd be a big help.

    Also, it's only a small point but you should invest in golf shoes and wear them always. I thought you seemed to be sliding a little just after you hit the ball. It might help you.

    Actually just noticed the driving range you're at. It's only 2 minutes up the road from me. Just heading up there now to hit a few balls :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,940 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    To go with what's already been said, to me it looks like your weight is not staying on the inside of your right foot on your backswing, which in turn facilitates a swaying motion. You need to keep as much of the weight of your backswing as possible on the inside of your right foot as this will keep your knee bent and also help to stop you swaying.

    You can practice this by sticking something under the outside of your right foot, like the shaft of a club, to give you an idea of what it feels like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    Ye are spot on guys. Really weight really dose go to the outside of my right foot. After stockdams analysis of my address position I realised I was not getting my address position right. I'm too stacked with no side tilt. It's pretty easy see in the comparison with McIlroys setup.

    I'm only after hitting a few shots into my practice net this morning but setting up with the correct side tilt is really helping alleviate the dip. It's feels like it's nearly impossible to sway when you set up in a correct manner. My left knee still want's to dip though, might be a bit tricky to shake. Might be a bit tricky hit the ball for a while too :rolleyes:

    Yeah Jimmy its a great range! Travel to get to it even though their is one closer to home, been going their for the last few years so fairly friendly with the proprietor, sound man and have gotten some great advice of him over that time. Oh and shoes were at home was planning for the mats and amazingly a bit of sunshine appeared so I ventured out :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Kingser


    k.p.h : Just something to help you (I do the same myself!)
    - Put your driver alongside your right foot. (The middle of the club really)
    - Take another club and put it across your shoulders. Cross your hands to hold the club in place.
    - Now, rotate your shoulders, body the same way you would on your swing.

    What you need to happen is the club on your shoulders should be pallarell to the driver on the floor just before you flex your wrists.

    Do you find that helpful? I can post a video if you don't undersatnd me!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,810 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    Kingser wrote: »
    k.p.h : Just something to help you (I do the same myself!)
    - Put your driver alongside your right foot. (The middle of the club really)
    - Take another club and put it across your shoulders. Cross your hands to hold the club in place.
    - Now, rotate your shoulders, body the same way you would on your swing.

    What you need to happen is the club on your shoulders should be pallarell to the driver on the floor just before you flex your wrists.

    Do you find that helpful? I can post a video if you don't undersatnd me!
    Will you post a video - I cannot get my shoulders parallel so would help to see how you do it :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    Not sure if I get exactly what you mean Kingser. If you could explain or get a video going that would be great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    It's amazing how much posture and address position can effect how you hit the ball I must say. I thought I was not doing to bad but the more I look at myself the more I can see how far off I was. I was making compensations all over the place to even just swing through the ball.

    Another thing I wanted to mention is how I was led on a wild goose chase with the old ball flight laws. Pretty much the way I understood it from a couple of years ago (also the way the PGA thought it) when I started was the club path was where the ball started and the club face determined the spin on the ball.

    I'm sure you have all heard it said. "Swing the direction you want the ball to start and aim the clubface where you want it to finish". Their are videos of Nick Faldo and even tiger Woods on youtube saying this.

    Absolute balls. :rolleyes:

    As it turns out according to the science (OEM science). The clubface determines 80-90% of the starting path of the ball and it's your swingpath that determines the spin on the ball

    Here I was all last year trying to correct flight issues thinking I was not getting the clubface square when it really was my swingpath all along. Some waste of time TBH.

    Also worth noting that this is how pro golfers have described how to get draw and fade for year's. Aim your body where you want the ball to start and clubface where you want it to land. Turns out that none of them knew what they were doing and it was all feel for them. They must have had some wicked compensations in their swings executing this too.

    One more thing. Closed drivers to help against a slice. They don't really help much at all. They don't take side spin off the ball to prevent slice. All they do is start the ball further left so you slice back to where you were aiming. Mental stuff this wish I knew about it sooner :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Kingser


    I'm going up the range tonight guys and I'll post a video soon as! Sorry for the wait. Its a good routine and it helped me in a massive way, a good 50 yards was added to my clubs thanks to it. Just find this on my laptop guys!! Should explain what I was trying to say.
    - k.p.h, your swing is good, relaxed. If it works for you, play with it. But to get more yards, you need more weight on your right and then flow all that weight through with the swing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭judosean2005


    guys,im having ssoo much trouble hitting a fairway wood.so much im using a 5iron instead and wasting a shot.
    Anyone any tips or videos to help me out?

    Sean

    PS.And when i mean trouble,Im setting up swinging and the balls spins on ground and flys straight up past my head,lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Irishvillian


    Sounds like your trying to murder it,try swinging it slower,pick a spot on the back of the ball and don't take your eyes of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    Kingser wrote: »
    I'm going up the range tonight guys and I'll post a video soon as! Sorry for the wait. Its a good routine and it helped me in a massive way, a good 50 yards was added to my clubs thanks to it. Just find this on my laptop guys!! Should explain what I was trying to say.
    - k.p.h, your swing is good, relaxed. If it works for you, play with it. But to get more yards, you need more weight on your right and then flow all that weight through with the swing.

    Ah Kingser now I get ya. Thats spot on I reckon in regards to helping me. Despite my denial of a reverse pivot to stockdam throwing my weight back on to my right foot dose not make it not a reverse pivot. I realise now your body should load up behind the ball with your head always behind the ball. After a bit of youtube analysis every good golfer ever loads up like that, with their spine tilting away from the target and head behined the ball.

    I believe I started doing it in a double whammy attempt the keep my head down and shift my weight back. Head down so much as it falls in front of the ball = bad move. Weight back by swaying = bad move. I was almost hitting it in a stack and tilt style method. Another tip that I think is helping now is keep left cheek behind the ball and look at the ball out of my left eye, really helps stay back.

    Appreciate the tip nice one :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭alxmorgan


    guys,im having ssoo much trouble hitting a fairway wood.so much im using a 5iron instead and wasting a shot.
    Anyone any tips or videos to help me out?

    Sean

    PS.And when i mean trouble,Im setting up swinging and the balls spins on ground and flys straight up past my head,lol

    Give this a try - helped me greatly

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq5gzmIeRQ8

    I aim to skip just behind the ball and when I do it right it flies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭J6P




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Dr.Silly


    Hi Guys,

    Been playing for 2 years, have the handicap down to 8 now. My main issue is an odd hook with the driver. Not sure why. Maybe some of the low handicapers can spot something. Thanks,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTrMtpvyESU&feature


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