Mock Draft Challenge Game

Chanandler Bong

Simple.. Everyone in with their finalised mock draft before the weeks out
Most correct picks wins, and is declared the NFL genius of Boards

and NO rubbishing other peoples drafts..at least not until the actual thing comes out!..because you could end up looking stupid if the one you jeer turns out to be right! Keep it clean

1. Detroit Lions - Matthew Stafford QB (Georgia)
2. St. Louis Rams - Jason Smith OT (Baylor)
3. Kansas City Chiefs - Aaron Curry LB (Wake Forest)
4. Seattle Seahawks - Eugene Monroe OT (Virgina)
5. Cleveland Browns - Brian Orakpo DE (Texas)
6. Cincinnati Bengals - Andre Smith OT (Alabama)
7. Oakland Raiders - Michael Crabtree WR (Texas Tech)
8. Jacksonville Jaguars - Jeremy Maclin WR (Missouri)
9. Green Bay Packers - Malcolm Jenkins CB/S (Ohio)
10. San Francisco 49ers - Mark Sanchez QB (USC)
11. Buffalo Bills - Everette Brown DE (Florida State)
12. Denver Broncos - BJ Raji DT (Boston)
13. Washington Redskins - Tyson Jackson DE (LSU)
14. New Orleans Saints - Brian Cushing OLB (USC)
15. Houston Texans - Aaron Maybin DE (Penn State)
16. San Diego Chargers - Ray Maualuga MLB (USC)
17. New York Jets - Josh Freeman QB (Kansas)
18. Denver Broncos (from Bears) - James Laurinaitis MLB(Ohio State)
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Peria Jerry DT (Ole Miss)
20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) - Micahel Oher OT (Miss)
21. Philadelphia Eagles - Knowshon Moreno RB (Georgia)
22. Minnesota Vikings - Percy Harvin WR (Florida)
23. New England Patriots - Clay Matthews OLB (USC)
24. Atlanta Falcons - Vontae Davis CB (Illinois)
25. Miami Dolphins - Kenny Britt WR (Rutgers)
26. Baltimore Ravens - Darrius Hayward-Bey WR (Maryland)
27. Indianapolis Colts - Ziggy Hood DT (Missouri)
28. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) - Eben Britton OT (Arizona)
29. New York Giants - Hakeem Nicks WR (North Carolina)
30. Tennessee Titans - Robert Ayers DE (Tennessee)
31. Arizona Cardinals - Beanie Wells RB (Ohio State)
32. Pittsburgh Steelers - Will Beatty OT (Connecticut)

Karlusss

1. Detroit Lions - Matthew Stafford QB (Georgia)
2. St. Louis Rams - Jason Smith OT (Baylor)
3. Kansas City Chiefs - Eugene Monroe OT (Virginia)
4. Seattle Seahawks - Michael Crabtree WR (Texas Tech)
5. Cleveland Browns - Aaron Curry LB (Wake Forest)
6. Cincinnati Bengals - Andre Smith OT
7. Oakland Raiders - Jeremy Maclin WR
8. Jacksonville Jaguars - Brian Orakpo DE
9. Green Bay Packers - BJ Raji DT
10. San Francisco 49ers - Malcolm Jenkins CB
11. Buffalo Bills - Michael Oher OT/OG
12. Denver Broncos - Mark Sanchez QB
13. Washington Redskins - Rey Maualuga LB
14. New Orleans Saints - James Laurianitis LB
15. Houston Texans - Brian Cushing LB
16. San Diego Chargers - Tyson Jackson DE
17. New York Jets - Vontae Davis CB
18. Denver Broncos - Beanie Wells RB
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Peria Jerry DT
20. Detroit Lions - Aaron Maybin DE
21. Philadelphia Eagles - Knowshon Moreno RB
22. Minnesota Vikings - Eben Britton OT
23. New England Patriots - Clay Matthews LB
24. Atlanta Falcons - Evander Hood DT
25. Miami Dolphins - Larry English LB
26. Baltimore Ravens - Percy Harvin WR
27. Indianapolis Colts - Evander Hood DT
28. Philadelphia Eagles - Eben Britton OT
29. New York Giants - Kenny Britt WR
30. Tennessee Titans - Alex Mack C
31. Arizona Cardinals - Everette Brown DE
32. Pittsburgh Steelers - Robert Ayers DE

TheHeadhunter

1. Detroit Lions - Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
2. St. Louis Rams - Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
3. Kansas City Chiefs - Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
4. Seattle Seahawks - Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest
5. Cleveland Browns - Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
6. Cincinnati Bengals - Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
7. Oakland Raiders - Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
8. Jacksonville Jaguars - Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
9. Green Bay Packers - Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB, Penn State
10. San Francisco 49ers - Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
11. Buffalo Bills - Everette Brown, DE, Florida State
12. Denver Broncos - Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
13. Washington Redskins - Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss
14. New Orleans Saints - Malcolm Jenkins, CB/S, Ohio State
15. Houston Texans - Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
16. San Diego Chargers - B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
17. New York Jets - Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
18. Denver Broncos (from Bears) - Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State
20. Detroit Lions (from Cowboys) - Peria Jerry, DT, Ole Miss
21. Philadelphia Eagles - Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State
22. Minnesota Vikings - Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
23. New England Patriots - Brian Cushing, OLB, USC
24. Atlanta Falcons - D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
25. Miami Dolphins - Percy Harvin, WR, Florida
26. Baltimore Ravens - Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
27. Indianapolis Colts - Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn
28. Philadelphia Eagles (from Panthers) - Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
29. New York Giants - Clay Matthews, OLB, USC
30. Tennessee Titans - James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State
31. Arizona Cardinals - Chris "Beanie" Wells, RB, Ohio State
32. Pittsburgh Steelers - Max Unger, C/OG, Oregon

kev_s88

okay so here goes my attempt......... very much like Charles Davis' Mock Draft 3.0 from nfl.com......but with a few slight changes that i think might make a bit more sense for some teams

1. Detroit Lions - Matt Stafford QB (Georgia)
2. St. Louis Rams - Jason Smith OT (Baylor)
3. Kansas City Chiefs - Aaron Curry LB (Wake Forest)
4. Seattle Seahawks - Eugene Monroe OT (Virginia)
5. Cleveland Browns - Brian Orakpo DE/LB (Texas)
6. Cincinnati Bengals - Andre Smith OT (Alabama)
7. Oakland Raiders - Jeremy Maclin WR (Missouri)
8. Jacksonville Jaguars - Michael Crabtree WR (Texas Tech)
9. Green Bay Packers - Malcolm Jenkins CB (Ohio State)
10. San Francisco 49ers - Mark Sanchez QB (USC)
11. Buffalo Bills - Everette Brown DE/LB (Florida State)
12. Denver Broncos - BJ Raji DT (Boston College)
13. Washington Redskins - Tyson Jackson DE (LSU)
14. New Orleans Saints - Brian Cushing LB (USC)
15. Houston Texans - Vontae Davis CB (Illinois)
16. San Diego Chargers - Beanie Wells RB (Ohio State)
17. New York Jets - Josh Freeman QB (Kansas State)
18. Denver Broncos (from Bears) - Rey Maualuga LB (USC)
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Peria Jerry DT (Mississippi)
20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) - Michael Oher OT (Mississippi)
21. Philadelphia Eagles - Knowshon Moreno RB (Georgia)
22. Minnesota Vikings - Percy Harvin WR (Florida)
23. New England Patriots - Clay Matthews LB (USC)
24. Atlanta Falcons - Brandon Pettigrew TE (Oklahoma State)
25. Miami Dolphins - Kenny Britt WR (Rutgers)
26. Baltimore Ravens - James Laurinaitis LB (Ohio State)
27. Indianapolis Colts - Evander Hood DT (Missouri)
28. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) - Eben Britton OT (Arizona)
29. New York Giants - Hakeem Nicks WR (North Carolina)
30. Tennessee Titans - Robert Ayers DE (Tennessee)
31. Arizona Cardinals - LeSean McCoy RB (Pittsburgh)
32. Pittsburgh Steelers - William Beatty OT (Connecticut)

Leslie91

OK I'm done......... have incorporated Buffalo's extra pick from the Eagles.

1. Detroit Lions - Matt Stafford QB (Georgia)
2. St. Louis Rams - Jason Smith OT (Baylor)
3. Kansas City Chiefs - Aaron Curry LB (Wake Forest)
4. Seattle Seahawks - Eugene Monroe OT (Virginia)
5. Cleveland Browns - Brian Orakpo DE/LB (Texas)
6. Cincinnati Bengals - Andre Smith OT (Alabama)
7. Oakland Raiders - Jeremy Maclin WR (Missouri)
8. Jacksonville Jaguars - Michael Crabtree WR (Texas Tech)
9. Green Bay Packers - BJ Raji DT (Boston College)
10. San Francisco 49ers - Mark Sanchez QB (USC)
11. Buffalo Bills - Everette Brown DE/LB (Florida State)
12. Denver Broncos - Brian Cushing LB (USC)
13. Washington Redskins - Tyson Jackson DE (LSU)
14. New Orleans Saints - Malcolm Jenkins CB (Ohio State)
15. Houston Texans - Aaron Maybin (Penn St)
16. San Diego Chargers - Michael Oher OT (Mississippi)
17. New York Jets - Josh Freeman QB (Kansas State)
18. Denver Broncos (from Bears) - Beanie Wells RB (Ohio State)
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Peria Jerry DT (Mississippi)
20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) - Rey Maualuga LB (USC)
21. Philadelphia Eagles - Knowshon Moreno RB (Georgia)
22. Minnesota Vikings - Kenny Britt WR (Rutgers)
23. New England Patriots - Clay Matthews LB (USC)
24. Atlanta Falcons - Brandon Pettigrew TE (Oklahoma State)
25. Miami Dolphins - Darrius Heyward Bey WR (Maryland)
26. Baltimore Ravens - Larry English DE/OLB (N Illinois)
27. Indianapolis Colts - Evander Hood DT (Missouri)
28. Buffalo Bills (from Philadelphia Eagles) - William Beatty OT (Connecticut)
29. New York Giants - Percy Harvin WR (Florida)
30. Tennessee Titans - Vontae Davis CB (Illinois)
31. Arizona Cardinals - Donald Brown RB (Connecticut)
32. Pittsburgh Steelers - Eben Britton OT (Arizona)

Leslie91

TheHeadhunter wrote: »

16. San Diego Chargers - B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College

I'd love for him to fall to my beloved Bolts. Nice pick.

Chucky the tree

I see everyone's following the big mockers when it comes to the raiders.

Leslie91

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I see everyone's following the big mockers when it comes to the raiders.

Yeah and a bit of cut n paste from before...... It's as easy to leave it as is. We all know old Al has a 'thang' for speedy wideouts.

TheHeadhunter

Leslie91 wrote: »

We all know old Al has a 'thang' for speedy wideouts.

Does that not mean he'd be more inclined to take Darrius Heyward-Bey? He was the fastest at the combine.

Leslie91

TheHeadhunter wrote: »

Does that not mean he'd be more inclined to take Darrius Heyward-Bey? He was the fastest at the combine.

Even for Al, Heyward-Bey might be a bit of a reach that high. But it is not out of the question. Maclin is this years DeSean Jackson without the ridiculously big ego.

Chanandler Bong

Crabtree's a far superior pure receiver to either though,

Doesnt mean Oakland will take him, probably the opposite in fact, as people close to Davis say the fact that he didnt do a 40 at the combine could actually affect his rating on their board!,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBm8xvLfr2w&feature=related

the guys class though

Chucky the tree

While Al does like Speed he rarely drafts WR high. Also, everything this off-season has been very un-Al like. No big FA signings, passed on TO, havent made a move for CJ. We'll draft crabtree, Raji or A. Smith.

TheHeadhunter

Chucky the tree wrote: »

While Al does like Speed he rarely drafts WR high.

Al isn't afraid to break with tradition. Case and point Ray Guy 1973.

Leslie91

Chucky the tree wrote: »

While Al does like Speed he rarely drafts WR high. Also, everything this off-season has been very un-Al like. No big FA signings, passed on TO, havent made a move for CJ. We'll draft crabtree, Raji or A. Smith.

Ur a Raider fan?. Who would u pick if u were the GM?.

jdivision

I think he picks Raji

Chucky the tree

Leslie91 wrote: »

Ur a Raider fan?. Who would u pick if u were the GM?.

JD on the button.

1. Raji
2. Crabtree
3. A. Smith(any of the other linemen if they fell)
4. Trade down
5. ugh...

Leslie91

Chucky the tree wrote: »

JD on the button.

1. Raji
2. Crabtree
3. A. Smith(any of the other linemen if they fell)
4. Trade down
5. ugh...

Raji might be there. I'd be surprised if the Raiders pick him though. Tell u what though, if Raji is the pick u can be sure some of the guys below Al are having a stronger say in things.

Picking McFadden last year was so 'Al'. Not that there so many Superstar names there last year but wouldn't it have been nice to have picked say Clady, McKelvin, Mayo, Otah.....................

I still say Maclin, or another flashy speedster. Good luck with whoever they pick!.

TheHeadhunter

haha well personally id take sanchez if he was on the board! i joke i joke

If I were in the position to select I would go with Maclin or Heyward-Bey to be perfectly honest. Both can stretch the field big time and JaMarcus Russell has a cannon.

Karlusss

I would pick Crabtree definitely if he fell. Mike Lombardi has NFLN convinced that Davis won't pick Crabtree because he doesn't have 40 time, but he's clearly the best wide receiver prospect and there's no point in reaching just for the sake of an OFFICIAL time (it's not like the guy's clunky on tape). Maclin's good too, and I'd take him at 7 where you have to assume he will be, if Crabtree is gone.

Leslie91

Leslie91 wrote: »

24. Atlanta Falcons - Brandon Pettigrew TE (Oklahoma State)

Damn.

Falcons just traded for Gonzo. No need for Pettigrew now.

Justin10

anyone tell me what these bets mean???

http://www.paddypower.com/bet?action=go_type&category=SPORTS&disp_cat_id=&ev_class_id=17&ev_type_id=11414&ev_oc_grp_ids=108435&bir_index=

says under 25 rounds etec ?? WTF??

eagle eye

Rochey18 wrote: »

anyone tell me what these bets mean???

http://www.paddypower.com/bet?action=go_type&category=SPORTS&disp_cat_id=&ev_class_id=17&ev_type_id=11414&ev_oc_grp_ids=108435&bir_index=

says under 25 rounds etec ?? WTF??

I'd say if you take it to the gambling forum they might be able to help you out.

Leslie91

Rochey18 wrote: »

anyone tell me what these bets mean???

http://www.paddypower.com/bet?action=go_type&category=SPORTS&disp_cat_id=&ev_class_id=17&ev_type_id=11414&ev_oc_grp_ids=108435&bir_index=

says under 25 rounds etec ?? WTF??

Dunno wot 'rounds' means but I guess in the case of Sanchez for example, if u think he is gone in the first 10 picks that is 4/11. If u think he goes later than pick 10 then that price is 15/8.

Unreal. I cannot believe PP are betting on the draft. It's fantastic.

Leslie91

Oh and if u think Andre Smith for example slides past the Bengals then that is even money. I think that's a decent bet.

eagle eye

Heres a wild scenario for you all. I was just thinking about Kansas and what they need now, they could do with a Linebacker but Tight End has to be high on their list of priorities after trading Tony Gonzalez. Now the first tight end to go in the draft this year is expected to be Brandon Pettigrew somewhere in the late teens or twenties. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Chiefs give up the no.3 pick for more picks later in the draft including a lower first round pick. Now with how quiet it has been in Foxboro I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Patriots look to move up if Aaron Curry was still on the board at no. 3. We haven't looked like bringing anybody in yet and we are in serious need of a big time Linebacker. We have bundles of picks and are in a serious position to work a picks trade. Of course the Broncos are also in a postion to do this and with the cap room they have now I wouldn't be surprised to see them looking for Curry too.

Just some mad thoughts about that pick and I know I'm probably way off the mark.:pac:

D3PO

1. Detroit Lions - Matthew Stafford QB (Georgia)

The Lions havent been a good drafting team hence their terrible records in the past few years. There a team that has struggles in all aspects of the game and you tend to find when a team has equal struggles on O & D they make a reach for a franchise face and hope this works out the best for them. Their Linebacking corps is probably the strongest component of
an altogether weak franchise so for this reason I see them passing on the best player in the draft Arron Curry and instead they hope Matthew Stafford can be the pancea for their offensive failings. Personally I dont rate Stafford as a top 10 pick not to mind number 1 but for situational reasons the Lions pick Carson Palmer er Im mean Matthew Stafford

2. St. Louis Rams - Eugene Monroe OT (Virgina)

For me this is a close one between Smith and Munroe. I give it to Monroe because he's slightly more agile and the Rams need that to protect Bulger's blindside for next season (although dont put it past them drafting a QB on day 1 who could emerge as the Rams starting QB sometime next season)

3. Kansas City Chiefs - Jason Smith OT (Baylor)

Its widely predicted that the Chiefs will take Smith and I agree with that. The trade of Gonzalez to the Flacons tells me the Chiefs are going to try and do a lot on offense with Larry Johnson. They paid a big price to get their franchise face in with Matt Cassell and they are going to want to protect that investment. I believe they will have considered Curry as they were poor in terms of creating defensive pressure last season but with his
lack of proven pass rushing ability they pass on him, I think they go and consider Micheal Crabtree aswell as a weapon for Cassell, but revert to protecting their QB and developing a more potent run game as the most pressing concern.

4. Seattle Seahawks - Mark Sanchez QB (USC)

Probably the most straightforward pick of the top 5. Hasslebeck is no spring chicken and injuries and age have seen his production drop off significantly. Granted he had probably the worst recieving options last season in the NFL due to injuries but at the end of the day the QB takes the plaudits and the criticism in equal measures when things are good or bad on offense. I really believe this is a weak draft class for QB's and Im not a Sanchez fan at all. I believe USC's strong defense has left him on the field an awful lot of the time with no pressure and its easy to look good when your not under pressure. That said the pundits believe hes the best fit for a west coast offense, I dont see it but hey, and as a result they take Sanchez as the heir apparant to Hasslebecks throne. If I was on the clock for the Seahawks I take Pat White, but Seattle take Sanchez.

5. Cleveland Browns - Aaron Curry LB (Wake Forrest)

Terrible on Offense & Defense last year. Strong shouts for Orakpo to help their defensive line or for Crabtree to help their recieving corps, but Its just too hard for the Browns to turn down the best player in the draft.
Browns pick Aaron Curry. A bargain draft for them

6. Cincinnati Bengals - Andre Smith OT (Alabama)

The Bengals were awful on offense last year. A combination of sulking recievers and a terrible O Line, meant Fitzpatrick and Palmer had no chance. With TJ whosyomama gone its tempting to go with Crabtree, but really they need to shore up the O Line. I was underwhelmeded with what I have seen of Andre Smith in terms of his workout tape, and I also have a niggling doubt about his professional character and temperment. Its a gamble but one the Benglas take.

7. Oakland Raiders - Michael Crabtree WR (Texas Tech)

A lot of people touting Maclin as the Raiders pick. I just cant agree. Crabtree is the best reciver in the draft bar none. I couldnt care less if Maclin or Heyword-Bey could get to the spot a microsecond faster, fact is Crabtree has better and, runs better routes and is the prototypical mould of a superstar reciever in the NFL. If the Raiders overlook him for another Wideout I'd have to seriously doubt their ability to become a force in this league anytime soon.

8. Jacksonville Jaguars - B.J Raji DT (Boston College)

Offense dominates my early draft picks but the Jags buck that trend for me. Its a straight fight betwen Raji & Orakpo for selection, But for me Raji gets the nod for a few reasons.

a) The need to replace Marcus Stroud
b) Raji is a 3 down defensive player from game 1 next year
where as Orakpo isn't
c) Raji is a better player in my eyes.

And yes Im aware that they play different defensive positions before anybody points it out.

9. Green Bay Packers - Brian Orakpo DE/LB (Texas)

Definatly a defensive player for the Cheeseheads. I considered Vontae Davis here as somebody they would have a look at, but I think they pick Orakpo as somebody to help them in the 3-4 Far from clearcut and the packers decision here could really mess up the whole of the first round with a curveball.

10. San Francisco 49ers - Josh Freeman QB (Kansas State)

Almost a banker that San Fran draft a QB. Again I'm personally a big Pat White fan and think he's the QB most likely to win a superbowl ring out of this QB draft class, but the buzz around the NFL seems to indicate Freeman is rated as a better prospect. So against my expert judgement lol. The 49ers draft Josh Freeman

11. Buffalo Bills - Michael Oher OT (Ole Miss)

Oher is an ok OT really a back end Round 1 / early round 2 pick in my eyes, but I think the Bills select him as they need somebody to plug in the gap left by the Peters trade.

12. Denver Broncos - Pat White QB (West Virginia)

4 QB's in the first 12 picks am I insane ? Probably. Is this a Bronco's need ? The answer is clearly NO as their need is on the defensive side of the ball, but they seem to have a QB fettish, so I buck the trend that says they select a Brian Cushing or a Tyson Jackson type player and send them Pat White.

13. Washington Redskins - Tyson Jackson DE (LSU)

Good prospect and the best DE left on the board. In such a strong offensive division the redskins really have to address the defensive line so Tyson Jackson is the logical choice.

14. New Orleans Saints - Brian Cushing OLB (USC)

A terrible defensive football team. Cushing is the logical choice, thats not to say the Saints wont go with a running back as they similar to Denver appear to have Tunnel vision and its not beyond the realms of possibility that they take Chris Beanie Wells.

15. Houston Texans - Aaron Maybin DE (Penn State)

Would really help that D Line Maybin and Super Mario could make this team a real playoff force. They looked really good last season on offense and I think this is a cast iron selection.

16. San Diego Chargers - Ray Maualuga MLB (USC)

No really pressing needs for the chargers. Possibly a consideration for Chris Beanie Wells or Knowshon Moreno as a sucessor for LT, but I think they go for Maualuga.

17. New York Jets - Knowshon Moreno RB (Georgia)

The jets need a signal caller but there isnt any first round material left so they go for a running back as their next most pressing offensive need.

18. Denver Broncos (from Bears) - Everette Brown DE/LB (Florida
State)

Having for their QB fettish out of the way the Broncos concentra on the defensive side of the ball. Brown although not the best Linebacker left on the board can also fill in a need as a D End and its the appeal of this that helps him over up the draft.

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Vontae Davis DB (Illinois)

The best DB still on the board at #19 !! I beleive they have a D Line need but I think its hard for them to draft Peria Jerry over Davis

20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) - Clay Matthews LB (USC)

Slightly contradiction my comments on pick 1 where I mention the linebacking corps of the Lions is their best department by making this pick, but the way I see it they have missed out on any first round OT material which is where they would have been looking to address. So with that in mind I think they go with Clay Matthews. I wouldnt be surprised if they went with Brandon Pettigrew here though hes a good blocker and could help that O Line. I think this would be a smart move for them but given the Falcons no longer have a TE need they gamble of Pettigrew being available first up in the second round.

21. Philadelphia Eagles - Chris Beanie Wells RB (Ohio State)

Eagles want the replacement for Westbrook lined up so pick wells. As an Eagles fan I be much happier with Brandon Pettigrew being selected but I cant see them going for it. The obvious other option is for them to select Percy Harvin as that star reciever they havent had since T.O. left. Hes a top 10 draft talent, but the drugs failure at the combine and the apparant attitude problems associated with him mean they steer clear.

22. Minnesota Vikings - Percy Harvin WR (Florida)

The Vikes take the Harvin gamble. They really need some recieving weapons to stop the box getting stacked on Peterson and that means its impossible not to take the risk on Harvin. The only missing pice of the Vikes offense now is a quarterback !!

23. New England Patriots - Malcolm Jenkins DB (Ohio State)

The Pats could use some depth at CB and Jenkins impressed me in the tape ive seen of him. You never know with the Pats they could go a number of routes but hes the best defensive player left on the board for me so they go with him.

24. Atlanta Falcons - Peria Jerry DT (Ole Miss)

Matt Ryan, Roddy White, Micheal the burner turner, tony Gonzalez. Hmm I wonder if they go for an offensive player .... Jerry isnt an instanT 3 down lineman but will help a team that is shaping up fantastically well

25. Miami Dolphins - James Laurinaitis LB (Ohio State)

I think the Fins could do with drafting a wide out but I think the Parcells factor sees them go for Laurinaitis.

26. Baltimore Ravens - Jeremy Maclin WR (Missouri)

Seriously how in the world has Maclin only gone at 26. Hes a way better player than #26 but I just think thats the way the draft falls. If this actually turns out this way the ravens are laughing. If Maclin is off the board then the obvious choice is Darrius Heyword-Bey

27. Indianapolis Colts - Ziggy Hood DT (Missouri)

Pretty straight forward choice. Almost universially agreed on. Hes the best player to fit the Colts need at this stage of the draft.

28. Bills (From Eagles) (from Carolina) - Brandon Pettigrew TE
(Oaklahoma State)

To the annoyance of the Lions franchince who hoped he might slip to round 2 the Bills take Pettigrew off the board. Hes the best player left on the board so they have to go this route.

29. New York Giants - Darrius Heyward-Bey WR (Maryland)

With the failure to get a trade sorted with the Browns and with the need to replace Plax. Heyard-Bey is the obvious draft choice for the Giants.

30. Tennessee Titans - Robert Ayers DE (Tennessee)

DE is the position they want to fill most. Ayers is a gamble but when your this deep in the first round I think you can afford to take one.

31. Arizona Cardinals - Donald Brown RB (UConn)

Cards need a running game. I havent seen anything outta Hightower that says hes the future. Brown is probably an underratted prospect so the Crads get some great larte round 1 value.

32. Pittsburgh Steelers - Max Unger C (Oregon)

I really like this pick for the superbowl champs. I think he could turn out to be a Jeeff Saturday type Centre with massive Upside. The steelers also get great late round value.

jdgryffudd

this is what i hope rather then see, plus im including a couple of trades, such as the eagles giving a pick to Arizona for Boldin and the Giants giving one to Cleveland for Braylon Edwards, plus a flier at 26:

1. Detroit Lions - Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forest
2. St. Louis Rams - Eugene Munroe OT Virginia
3. Kansas City Chiefs - Jason Smith OT Baylor
4. Seattle Seahawks - Mark Sanchez QB USC
5. Cleveland Browns - Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
6. Cincinnati Bengals - Andre Smith OT Alabama
7. Oakland Raiders - Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
8. Jacksonville Jaguars - BJ Raji DT Boston College
9. Green Bay Packers - Aaron Maybin DE Penn State
10. San Francisco 49ers - Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
11. Buffalo Bills - Michael Oher OT Mississippi
12. Denver Broncos - Brian Orakpo DE/OLB Texas
13. Washington Redskins - Tyson Jackson DE LSU
14. New Orleans Saints - Brian Cushing OLB USC
15. Houston Texans - Robert Ayers DE Tennessee
16. San Diego Chargers - Rey Maualuga ILB USC
17. New York Jets - Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
18. Denver Broncos (from Bears) - Josh Freeman QB Kansas State
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Malcom Jenkins CB Ohio State
20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) - Eben Britton OT Arizona
21. Arizona Cardinals (from Philadelphia Eagles) - Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
22. Minnesota Vikings - Percey Harvin WR Florida
23. New England Patriots - Clay Matthews OLB USC
24. Atlanta Falcons - Everette Brown DE FSU
25. Miami Dolphins - James Laurinitis ILB Ohio State
26. Baltimore Ravens - Pat White QB/WR/RB West Virginia
27. Indianapolis Colts - Peria Jerry DT Mississippi
28. Buffalo Bills (from Philadelphia Eagles) - Brandon Pettigrew TE Oaklahoma State
29. Cleveland Browns (from New York Giants) - Vontae Davis CB Illinois
30. Tennessee Titans - Evander Hood DT Missouri
31. Arizona Cardinals - Darius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland
32. Pittsburgh Steelers - Max Unger C Oregon


Some of these are stretches, i know, especially White at 26, but i think he could be the x-factor that the Ravens offence needs, he can line up anywhere and could really scare defences

eagle eye

1. Detroit Lions - Matthew Stafford QB (Georgia) They have Culpepper for one more year max and this is the best option for them.
2. St. Louis Rams - Jason Smith OT (Baylor) Smith has been up top of the draft for weeks, I personally prefer Monroe but I think the Rams will take Smith.
3. Kansas City Chiefs - Eugene Monore OT (Virginia) The Chiefs are gonna take a tackle to aid their new QB
4. Seattle Seahawks - Mark Sanchez QB (USC) I think the Seahawks are nuts to take Sanchez but the word on the draft wire is that its exactly what they will do.
5. Cleveland Browns - Aaron Curry OLB (Wake Forest) A bit lower than most think and a perfect fit fo the Browns, could be the biggest star of the whole bunch in the NFL.
6. Cincinnati Bengals - Brian Orakpo DE (Texas) Just what they need
7. Oakland Raiders - Michael Crabtree WR (Texas Tech) Lots of needs but get this guy and if JeMarcus gets time then things will change and fast
8. Jacksonville Jaguars - BJ Raji DT (Boston) Have more pressing needs but they do need a DT and they can't let this guy pass them by
9. Green Bay Packers - Everette Brown DE/OLB(Florida State) Either him or Maybin will be going to the pack.
10. San Francisco 49ers - Andre Smith OT (Alabama) I didn't think he would fall this far, he was fancied as no.1 at on stage but it looks like it will happen and the 49ers can't pass up on him.
11. Buffalo Bills - Michael Oher OT (Mississippi) Urgent requirment for the Bills and a player I like but his stock has dived over the last few weeks, its hard to believe that he will be going this late as well.
12. Denver Broncos - Tyson Jackson DE (LSU) They have a lot of needs on defense but this guy has risen sharply in the draft rankings over the last few weeks and I think the Broncos take him and use their second pick for a Linebacker.
13. Washington Redskins - Robert Ayers DE (Tennessee) This is a tough pick, they need somebody in this position but this is the first pick for me where you pick the best available rather than your biggest need. I think all the big name OTs are gone at this stage but you can't pass up on Ayers.
14. New Orleans Saints - Malcolm Jenkins CB/S (Ohio State) Huge gaping holes in their defense but they have to stop the deep threat and if Jenkins is still available he will not pass here.
15. Houston Texans - Brian Cushing OLB (USC) Texans have a number of issues to solve but they have been courting Cushing so I'll put him in here.
16. San Diego Chargers - Rey Maualaga ILB (USC) Its no secret who they want and they will get him at no. 16.
17. New York Jets - Jeremy Maclin WR (Missouri) Now there are big rumours about the Jets looking to move up the draft to secure Sanchez, I think if that doesn't happen they have to take a WR here. This is where I know I can't be right because everyone sees Maclin in the top 12 at least but I have him falling all the way to 17.
18. Denver Broncos - James Laurinaitus LB (Ohio State) He fits the bill perfectly for the Broncos, he is flexible and can play inside or outside.
19. Tampa Bay Buccanneers - Josh Freeman - QB (Kansas State) I think the Bucs will take the chance here, the Jets might do it also but I just feel the Bucs will take Freeman, they really need a QB.


I stop again, don't know if I'll get this finished before the draft but I've had enough of it for now.

TheHeadhunter

TheHeadhunter wrote: »

7. Oakland Raiders - Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland

damn i'm good, delighted.

kev_s88

ugh!!! Why did the Jags have to take Eugene Monroe....i know hes a great player and all but OT really wasnt their most glaring need....would have much preferred them to have taken BJ Raji and put him in beside Big John Henderson

Leslie91

Leslie91 wrote: »

OK I'm done......... have incorporated Buffalo's extra pick from the Eagles.

1. Detroit Lions - Matt Stafford QB (Georgia)
2. St. Louis Rams - Jason Smith OT (Baylor)
3. Kansas City Chiefs - Aaron Curry LB (Wake Forest)
4. Seattle Seahawks - Eugene Monroe OT (Virginia)
5. Cleveland Browns - Brian Orakpo DE/LB (Texas)
6. Cincinnati Bengals - Andre Smith OT (Alabama)
7. Oakland Raiders - Jeremy Maclin WR (Missouri)
8. Jacksonville Jaguars - Michael Crabtree WR (Texas Tech)
9. Green Bay Packers - BJ Raji DT (Boston College)
10. San Francisco 49ers - Mark Sanchez QB (USC)
11. Buffalo Bills - Everette Brown DE/LB (Florida State)
12. Denver Broncos - Brian Cushing LB (USC)
13. Washington Redskins - Tyson Jackson DE (LSU)
14. New Orleans Saints - Malcolm Jenkins CB (Ohio State)
15. Houston Texans - Aaron Maybin (Penn St)
16. San Diego Chargers - Michael Oher OT (Mississippi)
17. New York Jets - Josh Freeman QB (Kansas State)
18. Denver Broncos (from Bears) - Beanie Wells RB (Ohio State)
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Peria Jerry DT (Mississippi)
20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) - Rey Maualuga LB (USC)
21. Philadelphia Eagles - Knowshon Moreno RB (Georgia)
22. Minnesota Vikings - Kenny Britt WR (Rutgers)
23. New England Patriots - Clay Matthews LB (USC)
24. Atlanta Falcons - Brandon Pettigrew TE (Oklahoma State)
25. Miami Dolphins - Darrius Heyward Bey WR (Maryland)
26. Baltimore Ravens - Larry English DE/OLB (N Illinois)
27. Indianapolis Colts - Evander Hood DT (Missouri)
28. Buffalo Bills (from Philadelphia Eagles) - William Beatty OT (Connecticut)
29. New York Giants - Percy Harvin WR (Florida)
30. Tennessee Titans - Vontae Davis CB (Illinois)
31. Arizona Cardinals - Donald Brown RB (Connecticut)
32. Pittsburgh Steelers - Eben Britton OT (Arizona)

28 out my 32 were selected in round 1. I had 5 in the right spot.

kev_s88

kev_s88 wrote: »

okay so here goes my attempt......... very much like Charles Davis' Mock Draft 3.0 from nfl.com......but with a few slight changes that i think might make a bit more sense for some teams

1. Detroit Lions - Matt Stafford QB (Georgia)
2. St. Louis Rams - Jason Smith OT (Baylor)
3. Kansas City Chiefs - Aaron Curry LB (Wake Forest)
4. Seattle Seahawks - Eugene Monroe OT (Virginia)
5. Cleveland Browns - Brian Orakpo DE/LB (Texas)
6. Cincinnati Bengals - Andre Smith OT (Alabama)
7. Oakland Raiders - Jeremy Maclin WR (Missouri)
8. Jacksonville Jaguars - Michael Crabtree WR (Texas Tech)
9. Green Bay Packers - Malcolm Jenkins CB (Ohio State)
10. San Francisco 49ers - Mark Sanchez QB (USC)
11. Buffalo Bills - Everette Brown DE/LB (Florida State)
12. Denver Broncos - BJ Raji DT (Boston College)
13. Washington Redskins - Tyson Jackson DE (LSU)
14. New Orleans Saints - Brian Cushing LB (USC)
15. Houston Texans - Vontae Davis CB (Illinois)
16. San Diego Chargers - Beanie Wells RB (Ohio State)
17. New York Jets - Josh Freeman QB (Kansas State)
18. Denver Broncos (from Bears) - Rey Maualuga LB (USC)
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Peria Jerry DT (Mississippi)
20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) - Michael Oher OT (Mississippi)
21. Philadelphia Eagles - Knowshon Moreno RB (Georgia)
22. Minnesota Vikings - Percy Harvin WR (Florida)
23. New England Patriots - Clay Matthews LB (USC)
24. Atlanta Falcons - Brandon Pettigrew TE (Oklahoma State)
25. Miami Dolphins - Kenny Britt WR (Rutgers)
26. Baltimore Ravens - James Laurinaitis LB (Ohio State)
27. Indianapolis Colts - Evander Hood DT (Missouri)
28. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) - Eben Britton OT (Arizona)
29. New York Giants - Hakeem Nicks WR (North Carolina)
30. Tennessee Titans - Robert Ayers DE (Tennessee)
31. Arizona Cardinals - LeSean McCoy RB (Pittsburgh)
32. Pittsburgh Steelers - William Beatty OT (Connecticut)

27 out of 32 go in the first round...... 5 in the right place but only 4 to the right team....

Karlusss

Karlusss wrote: »

1. Detroit Lions - Matthew Stafford QB (Georgia)
2. St. Louis Rams - Jason Smith OT (Baylor)
3. Kansas City Chiefs - Eugene Monroe OT (Virginia)
4. Seattle Seahawks - Michael Crabtree WR (Texas Tech)
5. Cleveland Browns - Aaron Curry LB (Wake Forest)
6. Cincinnati Bengals - Andre Smith OT
7. Oakland Raiders - Jeremy Maclin WR
8. Jacksonville Jaguars - Brian Orakpo DE
9. Green Bay Packers - BJ Raji DT
10. San Francisco 49ers - Malcolm Jenkins CB
11. Buffalo Bills - Michael Oher OT/OG
12. Denver Broncos - Mark Sanchez QB
13. Washington Redskins - Rey Maualuga LB
14. New Orleans Saints - James Laurianitis LB
15. Houston Texans - Brian Cushing LB
16. San Diego Chargers - Tyson Jackson DE
17. New York Jets - Vontae Davis CB
18. Denver Broncos - Beanie Wells RB
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Peria Jerry DT
20. Detroit Lions - Aaron Maybin DE
21. Philadelphia Eagles - Knowshon Moreno RB
22. Minnesota Vikings - Eben Britton OT
23. New England Patriots - Clay Matthews LB
24. Atlanta Falcons - Evander Hood DT
25. Miami Dolphins - Larry English LB
26. Baltimore Ravens - Percy Harvin WR
27. Indianapolis Colts - Evander Hood DT
28. Philadelphia Eagles - Eben Britton OT
29. New York Giants - Kenny Britt WR
30. Tennessee Titans - Alex Mack C
31. Arizona Cardinals - Everette Brown DE
32. Pittsburgh Steelers - Robert Ayers DE

26/32.

Five to the right teams.

It's also possibly worth noting at this stage that I sent Ziggy Hood to the Falcons AND the Colts. Which was clever.

Edit: I also picked Eben Britton twice. Wow.

kev_s88

Karlusss wrote: »

26/32.

Five to the right teams.

It's also possibly worth noting at this stage that I sent Ziggy Hood to the Falcons AND the Colts. Which was clever.

Edit: I also picked Eben Britton twice. Wow.

Shoddy work.....:D

heyjude

TheHeadhunter wrote: »

7. Oakland Raiders - Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland

TheHeadhunter wrote: »

damn i'm good, delighted.

I hope I am wrong, but as a Raiders fan I'm horrified by this years draft picks by the Raiders. I know that it is the same as the past two years, but every year you hope that just for once they'll drop the stopwatch and pick the best player.

Crabtree had 41 TDs in two college seasons, while Heyward-Bey had 13 TDs in 3 seasons, while the comparisons in yardage and receptions are equally one sided. The reviews of Heyward-Bey all tend to mention 'questionable hands', which is football speak for having 'hands of stone', in order words, he could be the second coming of James Jett and we know how many seasons he led the NFL or Raiders in receiving yards/TDs/receptions.

The Raiders needed a 'number one' wide receiver in the draft, that is a receiver that is so good that he will attract double coverage on every play, for examples think of Larry Fitzgerald, Hines Ward or Andre Johnson. Would any of them win the NFL's fastest man ? No, but are they great receivers...Yes. The sweet irony is that the 49ers took Crabtree and so he'll be able to rub Al's face in it, if he turns out to be a star for the niners and Bey turns out to be another James Jett.

The situation yesterday reminds me of the 1985 draft, the Raiders and 49ers were both looking for a wide receiver in the first round, a guy called Jerry Rice was on the board at 16, the Raiders could have traded up from 23 and taken him, but Rice only ran a 4.6 in the 40 while Jessie Hester was a speedster, so while the 49ers(the defending Superbowl champs) traded its first two picks and moved up to 16 and took Rice, the Raiders opted not to trade and took Hester instead. And we know how that worked out :rolleyes:

If they had to take Heyward-Bey, why not leave it till the second round, Eugene Monroe and BJ Raji were still available and either would have made more impact this coming season than Bey will. The same applies to Mike Mitchell, the safety they got in the second round, most draft experts had him listed as a second day pick, of course, he was the fastest player left on the board. :rolleyes:

The players they've picked were all expected to go lower and their whole draft has the word 'REACH' written all over it.

The draft did prove one thing though, Tom Cable has about as much influence in the Raiders draft room as I do. He was talking before the draft about how delighted he would be to pick any of the top four offensive tackles that were available, as it turned out Monroe and Oher were on the board when the Raiders picked and instead he gets the third or fourth best rated wide receiver. I wonder will Cable remind Al of this stupidity when Jamarcus Russell is being pounded by Shawn Merriman in the opening game or will he remind Al of his decision not to draft Raji when the Chargers brush Tommy Kelly aide as they run for 200yds against the Raiders in that game ?

As I see it, Davis wouldn't pick Monroe or Oher as he's convinced he's solved the left tackle problem with Khalif Barnes(he was so good the Jags let him leave !) and Davis wouldn't pick Raji as that would be seen as an admission that signing Tommy Kelly to that huge contract last year was a mistake and Al doesn't do mistakes or at least he doesn't admit them. Still, unless by some miracle one or more of his long shot draftees turns out to be a superstar, the Raiders will be looking at another top ten draft pick next year, by which time hopefully Al will have turned over the reins to someone else

Chucky the tree

heyjude wrote: »

As I see it, Davis wouldn't pick Monroe or Oher as he's convinced he's solved the left tackle problem with Khalif Barnes(he was so good the Jags let him leave !) and Davis wouldn't pick Raji as that would be seen as an admission that signing Tommy Kelly to that huge contract last year was a mistake and Al doesn't do mistakes or at least he doesn't admit them. Still, unless by some miracle one or more of his long shot draftees turns out to be a superstar, the Raiders will be looking at another top ten draft pick next year, by which time hopefully Al will have turned over the reins to someone else

Disagree with this part. We didnt need a OT, and Oher dropped down to about the spot DHB was taken. Henderson was excellent for us at LT in the last 3 games and from all accounts Khalif barnes has been usually very good for the jags except for last year. I think he'll end up playing RT and we'll actually have a pretty good offensive line next year. Also, Tommy kelly is an UT while Raji would of been a NT so selecting him wouldnt be an admission of his mistake as both would play together. Although he's pretty much already admitted it was a mistake by re-doing Kellys contract.

The only reason I can think of why we didnt go with Raji is Al thinks that our poor run defence was down to Rob Ryan plays. Obviously he's hoping big hitting Michael Mitchell will help out alot aswell. I still hate the DHB pick at #7 though.

heyjude

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Disagree with this part. We didnt need a OT, and Oher dropped down to about the spot DHB was taken. Henderson was excellent for us at LT in the last 3 games and from all accounts Khalif barnes has been usually very good for the jags except for last year. I think he'll end up playing RT and we'll actually have a pretty good offensive line next year. Also, Tommy kelly is an UT while Raji would of been a NT so selecting him wouldnt be an admission of his mistake as both would play together. Although he's pretty much already admitted it was a mistake by re-doing Kellys contract.

The only reason I can think of why we didnt go with Raji is Al thinks that our poor run defence was down to Rob Ryan plays. Obviously he's hoping big hitting Michael Mitchell will help out alot aswell. I still hate the DHB pick at #7 though.

I won't be convinced by Henderson till he's played for a full season, while I think the Jags would have given Barnes the benefit of the doubt if he was that good. As for Barnes playing RT, I don't think he'd be happy doing that, as he only has a one year deal and LT is where the really big bucks are, when he is a free agent next year.

As for Kelly playing alongside Raji, if Raji had been picked, don't forget that at present on a rushing down, the two DTs are Kelly and Sands, and Sands was also given(what was considered a very generous contract for a career backup). I think the Raiders need a big DT that attracts a double team on running plays, so when they missed on BJ Raji, I had hoped they would nab Ron Brace, but they traded down with the Patriots in round 2 and the Patriots used that pick to take Ron Brace

I think blaming Ryan for the defensive failings is a bit unfair. Ryan specialises in utilising aggressive 3-4 defences and he was forced to use a 4-3 with the Raiders, while Al doesn't favour a defence with heavy blitzing as he prefers to rely on the DL to pressure the QB while the cornerbacks stay in man to man coverage. I suspect you will see what Ryan is capable of, this year in Cleveland, where he will have a 3-4 defence and I'm sure you'll see plenty of blitzing as you see with the Ravens and Steelers.

Didn't Kiffin allege that Ryan was consulting Davis over the defence ? If so, a change in co-ordinator will not see much change in the style of defensive play or playcalling.

TheHeadhunter

I disagree, i think DHB was a good selection by Al. He's raw pace is just to much to risk not getting your hands on. With his speed and Russell's cannon arm if they can link up down field it will be a great combination.

As for his questionable hands some of the so called very good and even great receivers have had dodgey hands look at Braylon Edwards, he couldn't catch a cold last year and TO is notorious for the amount of dropped balls he has a year. By the way I am not yet comparing DHB to either TO or Braylon Edwards don't get me wrong there.

Also did Crabtree not diss the Raiders pre draft or something to that effect?

Leslie91

No offence but I truly feel sorry for you Raider fans.

Al Davis's way, height weight speed, is so old. While he was once the life and soul of the franchise he is killing it year in year out now. Abominable decision after abominable decision wow.

It is amazing how predictable he is. I understand HB was taken over Maclin cos he ran a faster 40. God forbid u pick Crab since he never even ran a 40.

Monroe, Raji, Crab, Orakpo and English would all have been better picks imho. And Crab will be laughing from across the bay.

I wish u the best (kinda) but I fear for u once again.

Go Chargers!.

Chucky the tree

TheHeadhunter wrote: »

I disagree, i think DHB was a good selection by Al. He's raw pace is just to much to risk not getting your hands on. With his speed and Russell's cannon arm if they can link up down field it will be a great combination.

As for his questionable hands some of the so called very good and even great receivers have had dodgey hands look at Braylon Edwards, he couldn't catch a cold last year and TO is notorious for the amount of dropped balls he has a year. By the way I am not yet comparing DHB to either TO or Braylon Edwards don't get me wrong there.

Also did Crabtree not diss the Raiders pre draft or something to that effect?

Why do you Browns were trying to get rid of Edwards? He was drafted 3rd overall and so far he's been a bust imo. He's had one 1000yrd+ season which is very poor return. DHB would of been a good pick if we werent desperate for a No.1 WR straight away, DHB will take probaly about 2 years to develop and I think Crabtree has the potential to atleast be our #2 WR from day one.

Leslie91 wrote: »

No offence but I truly feel sorry for you Raider fans.

Al Davis's way, height weight speed, is so old. While he was once the life and soul of the franchise he is killing it year in year out now. Abominable decision after abominable decision wow.

It is amazing how predictable he is. I understand HB was taken over Maclin cos he ran a faster 40. God forbid u pick Crab since he never even ran a 40.

Monroe, Raji, Crab, Orakpo and English would all have been better picks imho. And Crab will be laughing from across the bay.

I wish u the best (kinda) but I fear for u once again.

Go Chargers!.

Due to our division I still think we have a good chance at play-offs. Broncos and the Chiefs are in a much bigger mess then we are, the chargers should easily win the division though, but they should of easily won it last year aswell.

Karlusss

That's arguable. The Broncos could go either way, but they started better than the Raiders IMO, and the Chiefs are in an equal amount of mess I would say. My unstudied hunch at this point would be that you split games with the Broncos and Chiefs, and lose both to the Chargers.

Heyward-Bey isn't necessarily a bad pick because he's not going to eventually become a decent player - he's a bad pick because he's such a reach. He was, at best, the fourth best receiver in the draft.

eagle eye

Karlusss wrote: »

Heyward-Bey isn't necessarily a bad pick because he's not going to eventually become a decent player - he's a bad pick because he's such a reach. He was, at best, the fourth best receiver in the draft.

Yeah, I'm sure there were plenty of teams who would've been interested in trading up to that spot with Monroe, Raji and Crabtree still available. They could have moved down as far as 20 imo without any worry of losing out on their selection and picked up another decent pick for it.

Leslie91

Leslie91 wrote: »

28 out my 32 were selected in round 1. I had 5 in the right spot.

Actually just realised I had 6 in the right spot. Freeman went 17th to the Bucs after they traded with the Jets.

Leslie91

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/102356-heyward-bey-unimpressive-in-raiders-debut?eref=fromSI

Ooooooooooops.

God Bless Al. One can always rely on him to reach and miss every year in April.

Chucky the tree

Leslie91 wrote: »

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/102356-heyward-bey-unimpressive-in-raiders-debut?eref=fromSI

Ooooooooooops.

God Bless Al. One can always rely on him to reach and miss every year in April.

:rolleyes:

Wow, he dropped a few passes in mini camp, do you think we should cut him now or try and trade him for a 7th round?

Sea Devils

Judging a player after a minicamp is incredibly naive. You might as well cite Stafford as a bust then since apparently he had a few erratic passes during the Lions minicamp.

Karlusss

When you draft a guy who's not the best ball-handling/big play receiver because he's fast, you expect him to take a while to get the hang of things, especially if he's going to be a number one in a (presumably, I wouldn't want to assume anything with Al though) fairly complex scheme.

Although Sea Devils you have to admit that guys like Brett Favre and Kurt Warner didn't show much at mini-camp, and their careers never recovered from the blow.

Leslie91

Chucky the tree wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Wow, he dropped a few passes in mini camp, do you think we should cut him now or try and trade him for a 7th round?

Absolutely not.

All I'm trying to say is that Al Davis is killing the Raiders year after year. I have nothing against DHB, it is not his fault he was picked too high by a geriatric fool. That's all. He was picked far too high, when much better players were there including other wideouts if that is what they wanted.

I'm amazed that the 'Raider Nation' has not ditched the blind loyalty and demanded he sell the team and F off.

It's all good though (if you support any of the other AFC West teams).

Lirange

Leslie91 wrote: »

I'm amazed that the 'Raider Nation' has not ditched the blind loyalty and demanded he sell the team and F off.

What do you mean? All those grim reapers in the crowd at home games are there for a reason.

Chucky the tree

Leslie91 wrote: »

I have nothing against DHB, it is not his fault he was picked too high by a geriatric fool. That's all. He was picked far too high, when much better players were there including other wideouts if that is what they wanted.

I'm amazed that the 'Raider Nation' has not ditched the blind loyalty and demanded he sell the team and F off.

It's all good though (if you support any of the other AFC West teams).

You posted an article about DHB dropping passes as if it was an "I told you he would be a bust" way. Judging someone a mini-camp is ridic stupid. Demand he sell the team? It his team which he set up, anyone "demanding" he sell the team should **** off an support the Patriots or Steelers. Dont get me wrong, I'd be all for him handing over control to someone else but I'm certainly not going to demand he sell up.


I'm pretty sure it's not all good if your a Chiefs or Broncos fan. Broncos have had a awful off-season and they already want Mcdaniels sacked. Talking about picking to high? Tyler Jackson says hello.

I dont really agree with how the draft went but in general our off-season has been excellent, we've improved in nearly every area of need(except the DL).

Leslie91

Chucky the tree wrote: »

You posted an article about DHB dropping passes as if it was an "I told you he would be a bust" way. Judging someone a mini-camp is ridic stupid. Demand he sell the team? It his team which he set up, anyone "demanding" he sell the team should **** off an support the Patriots or Steelers. Dont get me wrong, I'd be all for him handing over control to someone else but I'm certainly not going to demand he sell up.

I'm pretty sure it's not all good if your a Chiefs or Broncos fan. Broncos have had a awful off-season and they already want Mcdaniels sacked. Talking about picking to high? Tyler Jackson says hello.

I dont really agree with how the draft went but in general our off-season has been excellent, we've improved in nearly every area of need(except the DL).

Like I said above I posted the article to illustrate what a fool Al Davis is period. I know Raider fans can only hope for the best when he, again, picks a player based purely on measurables instead of picking a player of need who has 'played' consistently well at the college level. But to deny he is killing the franchise (I am not saying u are denying it btw) is blind loyalty. 'Raider Nation' needs to cop on and demand that the lad be removed yesterday else give someone else the reins like you suggested.

As for your other moves, one thing I will say about Mitchell, your other v questionable pick, is that he seems a great guy. I just watched his presser at minicamp and was v impressed with how he came across. I hope he makes it, I really do. After what he had to hear from the likes of Kiper etc and follow in the esteemed footsteps of Huff, I wish him the very best.

I agree Tyson Jackson was a big reach too, but I am not a Chiefs fan. I bleed blue n gold.