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Beggers On the street

  • 07-04-2009 10:29pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭


    Do you give them change? or keep walking?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    I give them pizza.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Depends on my mood but I usually give them >50c


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭Mr. Frost


    Usually a couple of Euro in change give or take.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,689 ✭✭✭Vain


    Nope havnt yet. Mainly because im from a town and don't see them much unless im in a city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭magick


    nope never


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Not a shilling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭poisonated


    I give it to people performing.I wont give it to people sitting down not bothering their arse.Ireland is a great country and we offer wonderful help to poor people so people sitting down with cups in their hand looking for money really get on my nerves.I know some of them have problems but although I dont know much about the situation im sure they offer counselling of some sort to these people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭Ann22


    There are Romanian beggars on the streets of Dundalk all the time. What's the story with them I wonder, do they get social welfare at all or are they depending on charity?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭JayeL


    God no, I never give them anything but a dirty look. Homeless (and not so homeless) people begging do so because it's very lucrative. If they wanted a leg up, a way of getting off the street, there's plenty of charitable organisations who'd be only too happy to help.

    But instead, they'd rather prey on people's good nature and/or guilt. If you feel any sympathy for someone begging, the best thing you could do for them is walk on by. If you drop a few pennies, you and other charitable people make living on the street worthwhile. If no-one gave anything, the beggars would have to sort themselves out.

    I'll put it another way; who do you think is more capable of administering charitable donations to those that need it - a charity or that woman that walks up and down the same street every day, trying to look frantic?

    If you want to help those that need it, donate to those who know who needs it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 495 ✭✭dimejinky99


    Giving to them encourages it, particularly with the romano gypsy crowd, who are pretty much vermin. Three times in the last 12 months ive caught them trying to lift my wallet in Q's for ATM, always just as you get to the machine, one tries to distract you and the others behind you. I don't have any time for these people and they don't contribte anything. gather them up and free flights home for all of them. the whole country is riddled with them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    give them money no i have thrown in a sly kick every now and then :p










    i lie i lie. Please no high horses galloping in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭Duff


    Ann22 wrote: »
    There are Romanian beggars on the streets of Dundalk all the time. What's the story with them I wonder, do they get social welfare at all or are they depending on charity?

    Yeah, the aul one at the post office is awful annoying, if ya dont give her change she gives ya an awful dirty look. Boot in the jaw is what she needs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I cut out the middle man and give them heroin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    If you really want to help beggers get off the streets / those in poverty then helping the St Vincent De Paul or other orgs. Dropping an euro into a cup doesn't solve any problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭Wazdakka


    Dont really give to beggars,
    I'd give to a busker or street performer if they were good.
    But I do support single moms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Karlusss


    I give them money if they ask and I have it. There's a surprising amount of well-spoken, clean-looking homeless people in Dublin.

    To everyone who think they do it on purpose... seriously? You think they sleep out in the streets in the puke/piss-filled, rainy nights intentionally?

    You can tell a long-term junkie a mile off, I don't give them money. But it's horrible to tar everyone who needs some change off strangers as junkies or frauds. Some of those charitable organisations have religious angles or criteria that would keep certain people from going, so they like to pay for a hostel, which they do through asking for change.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    they can get the dole, if you register as homeless u can get a temp address so u can receive a social welfare payment. if ur alcohol and drug free u can get alot of help to get u back on ur feet. i never give them anything, and the romanians are here to make money, its a racket. then when their time is up they get a free flight back to their country.

    alot on the street have substance abuse or mental problems which will cause problems for them if they wanna get into a hostel. they dont know how to look after themselves or budget their money.

    ever notice when someone needs a euro for the bus and they get it they are down the street looking for another euro for a bus. if u want some money earn it or get of your ass and sort your self out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    they can get the dole, if you register as homeless u can get a temp address so u can receive a social welfare payment. if ur alcohol and drug free u can get alot of help to get u back on ur feet. i never give them anything, and the romanians are here to make money, its a racket. then when their time is up they get a free flight back to their country.

    alot on the street have substance abuse or mental problems which will cause problems for them if they wanna get into a hostel. they dont know how to look after themselves or budget their money.

    +1

    sometimes i give them change if i can afford to, but as kumate_champ07 says many of them have mental problems and can't look after themselves. It's not widely know, but I have it on good authority, that there is a surplus of beds for the homeless in Dublin.

    The problem, from a beggars point of view, the choice is, go into a hostel before 22:00, and maybe you'll lose out on 100Euro on a friday nights begging. It's a downward spiral in many cases.

    The one question i alwasy ask myself when i see some young bloke/girl homeless, and kipping in doorways, is, "Don't they have any family?" If I had a brother or sister homeless, i'd do what ever i had to to keep them off the streets, and get them into care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭Suzannem


    One time I gave this old irish man €10 he was selling Issue magazines in town.
    It was an absolutley freezing cold day and he was wiping his nose with a raggy piece of tissue, you could tell the way he that he stood that he was freezing out there on the street.
    Without thinking twice i gave him a tenner. This was on grafton st and when i walked back down the way i was coming from, i seen him coming out of a shop with a bottle of 7up, i cant tell you how happy i was to do somthing so small, that meant so much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭speaktofrank


    Suzannem wrote: »
    i seen him coming out of a shop with a bottle of 7up, i cant tell you how happy i was to do somthing so small, that meant so much.

    Yeah I wanted a mixer for my nagon of vodka, cheers. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    Id normally give buskers a couple of coins. Not the beggers though. They're annoying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    I have them fill out an extensive questionnaire before I give.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    I have them fill out an extensive questionnaire before I give.
    do they get to keep the pen? I'd leave em keep it. Nothing worse than a smelly pen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭bigeasyeah


    I give them abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭Donkathon


    only if they look irish :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    seanybiker wrote: »
    Nothing worse than a smelly pen.

    What about a smelly homeless person?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    bigeasyeah wrote: »
    I give them abuse.
    I feed them bits of bread. They are like pigeons. I had 5 of them in front of me one day. Not fun when they crap on your shoulder though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    What about a smelly homeless person?
    But ya dont put them in your pocket or chew on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,374 ✭✭✭Gone West


    The homeless/beggars in Ireland are terrible beggars.
    You can break them down into 2 groups, those homeless with mental illness and those without.
    The ones without are confusing, as there are always free beds for the homeless in the dry-hostels.
    I've had some turn down fresh, clean, packaged food offered discretely in Dublin.
    The beggars where I live now really, really try hard to get your coins.
    The biggest value coin here is worth about 16 euro cents, and they will do almost anything for it.

    I never give money to non-physically disabled beggers, but I will always buy any some food if I see them outside a shop that I'm going into.
    Giving them money, you never know if they will just buy H with it, or where its going.
    Giving them food, you can be pretty sure you know whats going to happen to it.

    A heartbreaking example is the kids who beg on the streets. You can never be sure if they're being watched and are part of a gang. You can never be sure that they will give the money to their parents to buy food. You could just be making the whole thing worse.
    When I see kids begging, I try to buy them something like a few Donuts, or something that they will like and definetly eat right on the spot.

    If you really care, give up a saturday a month discretely handing out nice food from a closed bag. If you don't have time or if money alone can settle your conscience, please donate money directly to a homeless charity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    seanybiker wrote: »
    But ya dont put them in your pocket or chew on them.


    I dont put them in my pocket, but I do chew on them...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    I dont put them in my pocket, but I do chew on them...
    ha ha ha. Class film.

    It doesnt bother me if the person is physically disabled or not. There is some mad yoke here in waterford who wears his fake legs in some mad way. Sometimes they are going straight out in front of him. Kinda walking on his knees with legs bent at knee if ya know what I mean. I think he has overdone it a tad. I think he sometimes has his legs dragging along behind him. Bloody hilarious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Irishcrx


    Well, once I saw one of them sitting in the rain and felt bad so I bought him a sandwich and tea and what'd he say.

    He asked if I could take the sandwich back and just give him the 5 euro for it....never again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Back when subway was doing their stamp cards (if you eat 10 times you get 10 stamps on a card and the 11th is free) I would fill up a card and have it in my wallet. Then when I saw a beggar I'd give that instead of money.
    Must say now with the Romas I kinda stopped altogether as I heard they are shipped in to beg for their bosses, not sure if it's true or not but there you go.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,583 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    ever notice when someone needs a euro for the bus and they get it they are down the street looking for another euro for a bus. if u want some money earn it or get of your ass and sort your self out
    people with clean runners asking for a euro for the bus while smoking :mad:

    money to charities not beggers

    pity we aren't doing anything to help the mentally ill who used to stay in government institutions , the ones who litterly can't manage by themselves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭Homer


    pity we aren't doing anything to help the mentally ill who used to stay in government institutions , the ones who litterly can't manage by themselves

    Eh Brian Cowen and his cronies? I presume that's who you are on about?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭boardinwork


    This has been asked a few times before:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭Mary D


    I hate beggars, I never give them anything. One day I was walking down Abbey Street, I was talking to mys sister on the phone when this romanian girl with a baby came right up to me and kept saying pleease pleease, I said no and continued walking, she followed me down the street for 5 mins and kept saying pleease pleease, I lost it with her., I couldn't hear what my sister was trying to say.. I ended up sreaming f*ck off, this did the trick. Talk about hasselling ya. Most of them don't speak english so why did they come here, surely they knew they wouldn't be able to work. I HATE THEM ALL.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    There are more beggers on the street than usual these days. I used to think it was a case of getting permission from the begging-comission to use a particular street during peak hours, but now appears now that you can just set-up shop where=ever you like and go into business. It's total madness!

    On the plus-side it does give me the consumer greater choice and improved beggar competition for my spare change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭dollybird09


    I usually give them a dirty look for thinking they can talk to me and then stroll on by...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,084 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Karlusss wrote: »
    I give them money if they ask and I have it. There's a surprising amount of well-spoken, clean-looking homeless people in Dublin.

    To everyone who think they do it on purpose... seriously? You think they sleep out in the streets in the puke/piss-filled, rainy nights intentionally?

    How do you know that well dressed person asking you for change at 12pm in the day is going to be sleeping rough that night? Some of them will be but most are just fraudsters. Beggars tend to fall into two categories: the professional fraudsters who will make several hundred euro a day by tugging on the gullibles' heartstrings and the homeless who will probably make a few single euro if they're lucky. Do everyone a favour and give your money to a homeless charity instead of whatever randomer comes up to you in the street.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭Ciaran B


    There’s a guy on Henry St. I normally give a quid to. He has something wrong with his legs so he’s on crutches. His beggar shtick is that he has a football which he does keepy-uppys with using the crutches. He knocks the ball way up into the air, kills the momentum with a nice cushioned header then tips it up a few times on the crutches. He’s pretty good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    Beggars should be expected to do a nice trick or play an instrument. That way the talented ones get to live.


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    Ciaran B wrote: »
    There’s a guy on Henry St. I normally give a quid to. He has something wrong with his legs so he’s on crutches. His beggar shtick is that he has a football which he does keepy-uppys with using the crutches. He knocks the ball way up into the air, kills the momentum with a nice cushioned header then tips it up a few times on the crutches. He’s pretty good.

    I've seen him, but whats wrong with his legs? He stands fine while he's moving the two crutches at the same time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭Suzannem


    Yeah I wanted a mixer for my nagon of vodka, cheers. :D

    haha! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭irish_ninja


    tie em up and ship em out!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭SaintHubbins


    I hate Romanian beggars as well. I'm always on my guard when I see them around. Begging should result in instant deportation - might make them think twice about coming over here then. We have enough of our own problems in the country now without have to look after them bastards. I personally recommend giving them a burger or a sandwich laced with a fatal dose of poison!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭Ann22


    Duff wrote: »
    Yeah, the aul one at the post office is awful annoying, if ya dont give her change she gives ya an awful dirty look. Boot in the jaw is what she needs.

    I know! I hate walking past her, she always stares at you, mumbling under her breath. I started giving her about 50c or so the odd time 'cos I was so embarrassed walking past...I shouldn't have though, 'cos I think she remembers me and expects something every time, she always has a handful of €2s, no way would I give her that much:o. I always give to flag sellers or whoever else is there though so I don't feel so awkward walking past her. Today I put money in the box of a flag seller only to realise I was after buying an Easter lily...something to do with Irish patriots was written on the box. What does that go to? Is it something to do with Ira prisoners or something? Sh*t....I gave to murderers to avoid giving to an old gypsy woman...she probably put the evil eye on me:(.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Gazza22


    Roma beggers? Not a chance

    From time to time i will give homeless people money who i know are indeed really homeless i.e people sleeping rough at night time on the streets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    corkhero wrote: »
    Do you give them change? or keep walking?
    Well, you can tell by the way I use my walk,
    I'm a woman's man, no time to talk.(Or give out change)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Cian92


    I would never ever give to a Romanian Gypsy beggar! As one time, my friend went to his pockets to give this one in Cork a bit of change, realised he only had a fifty, said sorry no change. She started shouting at us, going on about her baby going hungry and followed us for a good 10mins. She was also on a bridge where you had to pass her!!

    I would give a homeless Irish person who doesnt smell of drink, or have empty drink cans near them, a bit of change or some food. Using this policy they have always been grateful and it makes you feel good.


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