Old Farmers

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I was walking the dog this morning and decided to take him along an old country lane for a change. He was on a leash as he's a bit hyper and would leg it if he had the chance. On my way along the lane I met a farmer who'd been out shaving sheep or whatever it is they do and he went mental at me for being on the lane. Went on for 10 mins about closing gates and how the people of today think it's ok to trespass on private property. He said if he ever sees me on the lane again that he'll call the Guards and shoot my dog!

Crazy old codger

Should I walk on the lane again to see if he was bluffing?

Kess73

If it was a public walkway and your dog was safely on a leash, then he can go fcuk himself.


Or a sheep.




Actually if it is a public laneway, and he made the threat of shooting the dog, then it is you that can get the Gardai involved as he made a threat to shoot. Be one less spud picker that way.

Dragan

Upward Spiral wrote: »

I was walking the dog this morning and decided to take him along an old country lane for a change. He was on a leash as he's a bit hyper and would leg it if he had the chance. On my way along the lane I met a farmer who'd been out shaving sheep or whatever it is they do and he went mental at me for being on the lane. Went on for 10 mins about closing gates and how the people of today think it's ok to trespass on private property. He said if he ever sees me on the lane again that he'll call the Guards and shoot my dog!

Crazy old codger

Should I walk on the lane again to see if he was bluffing?

To be honest, it would be pretty ****ing funny if he did shoot you.

I mean, you have been warned, it is his land.

RATM

Ger off my Laaaannnnnd !

SV

He'll call the gardas and then shoot your dog?
to save you the bother of calling them I suppose, nice guy.

If its a private lane way then he is within his rights to run you and rightly so. It would be like someone came to your house and started walking their dog around your house, I dont think you would like it.

Vain

Upward Spiral wrote: »

I was walking the dog this morning and decided to take him along an old country lane for a change.

You sure the lane wasn't leading up to his house or his land? Suppose if you were a farmer and had a few of your sheep killed by dogs and left you a few grand out of pocket would surely make ya want to kill every dog in sight.

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Manuel Deafening Ballerina wrote: »

If its a private lane way then he is within his rights to run you and rightly so. It would be like someone came to your house and started walking their dog around your house, I dont think you would like it.

I don't think it is a private lane though. There's a few houses on it and a number of fields that are owned by different people. I thought right-of-way or roaming laws state you can walk on them anyway. I think the old man was starved of conversation too, hardly surprising though when he's so aggressive.

CreepingDeath

Upward Spiral wrote: »

He said if he ever sees me on the lane again that he'll call the Guards and shoot my dog!

Crazy old codger

Should I walk on the lane again to see if he was bluffing?

Check eBay for bullet proof dog coats.

stovelid

If he starts playing a banjo, get out of there.

Gone Drinking

You should have just got on your knees and started sucking your dogs dick, he'd probably have left you alone then

TestTransmission

Be honest OP,you were banging his sheep while your beloved Rex watched on

brianthebard

Upward Spiral wrote: »

I don't think it is a private lane though. There's a few houses on it and a number of fields that are owned by different people. I thought right-of-way or roaming laws state you can walk on them anyway. I think the old man was starved of conversation too, hardly surprising though when he's so aggressive.

You actually don't have a clue who owns it though do you? First thing you should do is find out.

luckat

Where's this lane? Post it on Google Maps for us and tell the lads in Animals and Pet Issues

Poor oul' fella was probably crazed with stress. Time is hard for farmers these days, and it's no wonder he went off on you. I hope you let him rant, then said "Of course I close gates, and as you see, my dog is on a leash."

Vain

You should of set your dog on him.

lucylu

It's his property he can do likes.

BTW Sheep are sheared not shaven

SEPT 23 1989

had your dog a sheeps head dripping with blood in its mouth by any chance?

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luckat wrote: »

Where's this lane? Post it on Google Maps for us and tell the lads in Animals and Pet Issues

Poor oul' fella was probably crazed with stress. Time is hard for farmers these days, and it's no wonder he went off on you. I hope you let him rant, then said "Of course I close gates, and as you see, my dog is on a leash."

It's not even on Google Maps! I found this though

""LH/2002/066


Castlebellingham/Kilsaran Environment Committee


Develop a walking trail to follow a traditional right of way known as Miss Anne's Lane.""

http://www.heritagecouncil.ie/grants/general/local-heritage-grant/grant-recipients/2002/

That suggests it is a right-of-way. And yes I did let him rant and was civil to him. lol

themadchef

Rough time of year on sheep farmers but some of them do take it to extremes.

Lack of sleep, loss of money, hatred to see the lambs ripped to shreds...some of them do lose the head a small bit.

luckat

Some people can be silly with their dogs - "Oh, she's grand with sheep" - then the dog takes off for the first time in her life as her wolf genes call, and chases a herd of pregnant ewes and you have abortion and prolapsed uteris all over the place.

SV

luckat wrote: »

Some people can be silly with their dogs - "Oh, she's grand with sheep" - then the dog takes off for the first time in her life as her wolf genes call, and chases a herd of pregnant ewes and you have abortion and prolapsed uteris all over the place.

bad memories eh?

convert

If it's private property then he was well within his rights to have a go at you. You shouldn't have been there.

And just because it's a right of way doesn't necessarily give you a right to be there. A lot of the old right of ways were drawn up when there were loads of small houses built in fields that had no road access, hence a right of way was needed to get to them. They were really for access only, not for randomers to go for walks with their dogs because they felt like it.

ayapatrick

luckat wrote: »

Some people can be silly with their dogs - "Oh, she's grand with sheep" - then the dog takes off for the first time in her life as her wolf genes call, and chases a herd of pregnant ewes and you have abortion and prolapsed uteris all over the place.

so from the horses mouth so to speak. im from a sheep farming farm, and if the op was on private land then i can tell you that the farmer could shoot the dog. (albeit i think that could be kind of unreasonable seeing as he had the dog on a leash)

Posssibly his anger might come from the fact that if anything happened to the walkers on his land he would be liable. Just imagine if a walker decides to bring your dog on a walk across my fields where there is a right of way(hypothetically) and my bull is out in the field. I can tell you that the bull is goin to charge you and the dog, knock the ****e out of the dog and possibly put the walker in the ground. what happens then when the walker decides hel put in a claim. - itd piss ya off! (one possibilty)?:)

luckat wrote: »

and prolapsed uteris all over the place.

if ya told that to most farmers they wouldnt know what yad be on about!:D "put out the lamb bed" is what theyd say

luckat

ayapatrick wrote: »

if ya told that to most farmers they wouldnt know what yad be on about!:D "put out the lamb bed" is what theyd say

Feels the same to the ewe, no matter what it's called, I suspect.

ayapatrick

luckat wrote: »

Feels the same to the ewe, no matter what it's called, I suspect.

ive seen it happen and surprisingly the ewe doesnt seem to be in any large amount of discomfort during it.

biko

Feckin townies coming over here and not closing gates after themselves and putting out lambs beds all over the place.

luckat

ayapatrick wrote: »

ive seen it happen and surprisingly the ewe doesnt seem to be in any large amount of discomfort during it.

This is because prey animals are genetically coded not to show pain even when they're in agony; predators are big babies about it - according to tests that use brain scans to monitor pain levels while scientists torture animals.

Bogger77

Upward Spiral wrote: »

It's not even on Google Maps! I found this though



http://www.heritagecouncil.ie/grants/general/local-heritage-grant/grant-recipients/2002/

That suggests it is a right-of-way. And yes I did let him rant and was civil to him. lol

"Traditional" right of way, does not mean right of way for members of public.
Example, I and my family have a right of way through the back yard of a nearby house, but anyone else, using the path, would be tresspassing.
If you are tresspassing, then he can legally shoot the dog, if he can prove he was concerned about his livestock. At this time of year, best keep dogs, leashed or not, off farmers land, as they don't have to let you and your dogs on them.

Right to roam, does not mean Right to walk dogs.
Don't like it, tough.

Wagon

Shoot his sheep. No more lambs fror him to lock up in the basement for 24 years...




He's a farmer. Of course he does.

ScumLord

Like it's been said not all lanes and roads are public. Farmers love shooting dogs too.

Kess73

Bogger77 wrote: »

"Traditional" right of way, does not mean right of way for members of public.
Example, I and my family have a right of way through the back yard of a nearby house, but anyone else, using the path, would be tresspassing.
If you are tresspassing, then he can legally shoot the dog, if he can prove he was concerned about his livestock. At this time of year, best keep dogs, leashed or not, off farmers land, as they don't have to let you and your dogs on them.

Right to roam, does not mean Right to walk dogs.
Don't like it, tough.

You should go and check the law instead of spouting rubbish. Legally he cannot shoot a dog that is being held on a leash, a dog that had caused no harm. What he can do legally if the person had trespassed, is either tell the person to leave the land and/or call the Gardai and have the person prosecuted for trespassing.





On the other side of the coin, if the farmer has made a threat to use a firearm in a public walkway, then the farmer can be taken to court over it.

dlambirl

Well if it was a public lane you have the right to walk up there with your dog once he is safetly on a leash.

If it was a private lane (and by the farmers reaction - i would say it was) then you were trespassing and thats illegal.

By the sounds of it the farmer must of had some bad experience with dogs in the area killing his sheep and i'm sure you can understand why he doesnt want dogs around his sheep as they lose alot of money everytime one is killed.

I'd recommend that you dont walk up the lane again - just for peace sake!

Bogger77

Kess73 wrote: »

You should go and check the law instead of spouting rubbish. Legally he cannot shoot a dog that is being held on a leash, a dog that had caused no harm. What he can do legally if the person had trespassed, is either tell the person to leave the land and/or call the Gardai and have the person prosecuted for trespassing.





On the other side of the coin, if the farmer has made a threat to use a firearm in a public walkway, then the farmer can be taken to court over it.

From the OPs version, I rad it that the farmer threatened to shoot the dog if it was on his land again.

Why doesn't the OP take himself off to the local garda station, and hand over his dog license for inspection, and then make his claims against the farmer!

ejmaztec

Farmer was probably pissed off because his sister wouldn't marry him.

Mr.Lizard

Upward Spiral wrote: »

Should I walk on the lane again to see if he was bluffing?

You could ask Frog Ward if he was still around.

Turd Ferguson

He's probably just scared you'll stumble across the bodies he has hidden there. I'd stay well away.

bladebrew

i cant see any reason why he would threaten to should your dog if he was on a leash!!! imagine the look on your face:eek:

he must have had dogs with a taste for lamb in his field before;)
could you get a dog costume from a joke shop and go running up the lane??

Gummy Panda

OP burn the farmer's house down!!

That'll teach the farmer for promoting gun violence.

mumhaabu

ayapatrick wrote: »

if ya told that to most farmers they wouldnt know what yad be on about!:D "put out the lamb bed" is what theyd say

In Cork it is known as "putting out the back boondoon" or the "back vessel" those farmers would be rather anatomically challenged.

bladebrew

bladebrew wrote: »

i cant see any reason why he would threaten to should your dog if he was on a leash!!! imagine the look on your face:eek:

he must have had dogs with a taste for lamb in his field before;)
could you get a dog costume from a joke shop and go running up the lane??

If the dog sees the sheep and starts barking it could spook the sheep. As mentioned before if sheep start running around the place they can easily lose lambs. I can tell you lambing season is a right pain in the arse for farmers trust me I have gone through it at home, up all night maybe, dealing with sick ewes and then up eairly the next morning again so a bit of respect is hardly too much to ask.

admiralofthefleet

i thought this thread was about bum grapes

Lu Tze

mumhaabu wrote: »

In Cork it is known as "putting out the back boondoon" or the "back vessel" those farmers would be rather anatomically challenged.

I can confirm boondoon is also the nomenclature used in kerry west...

For those interested in the treatment of such (and those with a sick twisted curiousity), the correct product can be found here

http://www.lambertvetsupply.com/Prolapse-Retainer-Ewe--pr--070JRJ26E

truecrippler

Gone Drinking wrote: »

You should have just got on your knees and started sucking your dogs dick, he'd probably have left you alone then

o.O

bladebrew

Manuel Deafening Ballerina wrote: »

If the dog sees the sheep and starts barking it could spook the sheep. As mentioned before if sheep start running around the place they can easily lose lambs. I can tell you lambing season is a right pain in the arse for farmers trust me I have gone through it at home, up all night maybe, dealing with sick ewes and then up eairly the next morning again so a bit of respect is hardly too much to ask.

people have suggested burning down the farmers house,why should i be told to have respect?? if i was the op i wouldnt annoy the farmer and i certainly wouldnt go up that laneway again! but threatening to shoot a dog on a lead is insane,id report him for making threats
no more jokes in after hours please

convert

And I'd report the dog for threatening sheep...

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I have no intentions of reporting a 75 year-old man lol. I asked a few of my neighbors about him and the general consensus is that he's a bitter old cnut. I'll just stay off the lane to avoid any further agro.

Honey-ec

Manuel Deafening Ballerina wrote: »

If the dog sees the sheep and starts barking it could spook the sheep. As mentioned before if sheep start running around the place they can easily lose lambs. I can tell you lambing season is a right pain in the arse for farmers trust me I have gone through it at home, up all night maybe, dealing with sick ewes and then up eairly the next morning again so a bit of respect is hardly too much to ask.

Oh FFS, I live in Tullow, directly across from a farmer whose own dogs bark incessantly. He doesn't seem too worried about the effect that's having on his own flock.

And aggressively berating someone and threatening to shoot their (leashed) dog is not behaviour that warrants respect. I don't care how many lambs he's lost, he had no business speaking to the OP in that manner. A polite "this is private property and I'd appreciate it if you didn't walk your dog on it" was all that was required.

Ann22

I'd be shaking after that. He didn't need to go mad at you. My uncle lives in the country and owns lots of land, however the lanes between his fields are open to whoever wants to walk them. Was there a sign at the entrance to the lane saying it was private property? He sounds like he's a bit barmy. I'd stay well away.

kevmy

The auld lad could well be crazy but that doesn't mean the OP was right either.

bladebrew wrote: »

i cant see any reason why he would threaten to should your dog if he was on a leash!!! imagine the look on your face:eek:

he must have had dogs with a taste for lamb in his field before;)
could you get a dog costume from a joke shop and go running up the lane??

bladebrew wrote: »

people have suggested burning down the farmers house,why should i be told to have respect?? if i was the op i wouldnt annoy the farmer and i certainly wouldnt go up that laneway again! but threatening to shoot a dog on a lead is insane,id report him for making threats
no more jokes in after hours please

If you have ever seen the state of a young lamb after they have been attacked by dogs you'd have a bit more sympathy. We had some dogs come onto our land a couple of years back. They killed 4 lambs, left nothing of them but the head and backbone and we had to put down another 2. Not to mention the distress it caused to the remaining sheep and lambs.

Lu Tze

Ann22 wrote: »

Was there a sign at the entrance to the lane saying it was private property?quote]

Is there a sign at your front door saying it is private property?

Honey-ec

Lu Tze wrote: »

Ann22 wrote: »

Was there a sign at the entrance to the lane saying it was private property

Is there a sign at your front door saying it is private property?

Dude, the OP wasn't walking the dog through his house.