Old Farmers

My name is URL · 23-03-2009 11:08AM #1

I was walking the dog this morning and decided to take him along an old country lane for a change. He was on a leash as he's a bit hyper and would leg it if he had the chance. On my way along the lane I met a farmer who'd been out shaving sheep or whatever it is they do and he went mental at me for being on the lane. Went on for 10 mins about closing gates and how the people of today think it's ok to trespass on private property. He said if he ever sees me on the lane again that he'll call the Guards and shoot my dog!

Crazy old codger

Should I walk on the lane again to see if he was bluffing?

Kess73 · 23-03-2009 11:09AM

If it was a public walkway and your dog was safely on a leash, then he can go fcuk himself.

Or a sheep.

Actually if it is a public laneway, and he made the threat of shooting the dog, then it is you that can get the Gardai involved as he made a threat to shoot. Be one less spud picker that way.

Dragan · 23-03-2009 11:10AM

Upward Spiral wrote: »

I was walking the dog this morning and decided to take him along an old country lane for a change. He was on a leash as he's a bit hyper and would leg it if he had the chance. On my way along the lane I met a farmer who'd been out shaving sheep or whatever it is they do and he went mental at me for being on the lane. Went on for 10 mins about closing gates and how the people of today think it's ok to trespass on private property. He said if he ever sees me on the lane again that he'll call the Guards and shoot my dog!

Crazy old codger

Should I walk on the lane again to see if he was bluffing?

To be honest, it would be pretty ****ing funny if he did shoot you.

I mean, you have been warned, it is his land.

RATM · 23-03-2009 11:11AM

Ger off my Laaaannnnnd !

SV · 23-03-2009 11:16AM

He'll call the gardas and then shoot your dog?
to save you the bother of calling them I suppose, nice guy.

23-03-2009 11:17AM

If its a private lane way then he is within his rights to run you and rightly so. It would be like someone came to your house and started walking their dog around your house, I dont think you would like it.

Vain · 23-03-2009 11:18AM

Upward Spiral wrote: »

I was walking the dog this morning and decided to take him along an old country lane for a change.

You sure the lane wasn't leading up to his house or his land? Suppose if you were a farmer and had a few of your sheep killed by dogs and left you a few grand out of pocket would surely make ya want to kill every dog in sight.

My name is URL · 23-03-2009 11:21AM

Manuel Deafening Ballerina wrote: »

If its a private lane way then he is within his rights to run you and rightly so. It would be like someone came to your house and started walking their dog around your house, I dont think you would like it.

I don't think it is a private lane though. There's a few houses on it and a number of fields that are owned by different people. I thought right-of-way or roaming laws state you can walk on them anyway. I think the old man was starved of conversation too, hardly surprising though when he's so aggressive.

CreepingDeath · 23-03-2009 11:23AM

Upward Spiral wrote: »

He said if he ever sees me on the lane again that he'll call the Guards and shoot my dog!

Crazy old codger

Should I walk on the lane again to see if he was bluffing?

Check eBay for bullet proof dog coats.

stovelid · 23-03-2009 11:25AM

If he starts playing a banjo, get out of there.

Gone Drinking · 23-03-2009 11:25AM

You should have just got on your knees and started sucking your dogs dick, he'd probably have left you alone then

TestTransmission · 23-03-2009 11:25AM

Be honest OP,you were banging his sheep while your beloved Rex watched on

brianthebard · 23-03-2009 11:27AM

Upward Spiral wrote: »

I don't think it is a private lane though. There's a few houses on it and a number of fields that are owned by different people. I thought right-of-way or roaming laws state you can walk on them anyway. I think the old man was starved of conversation too, hardly surprising though when he's so aggressive.

You actually don't have a clue who owns it though do you? First thing you should do is find out.

luckat · 23-03-2009 11:29AM

Where's this lane? Post it on Google Maps for us and tell the lads in Animals and Pet Issues

Poor oul' fella was probably crazed with stress. Time is hard for farmers these days, and it's no wonder he went off on you. I hope you let him rant, then said "Of course I close gates, and as you see, my dog is on a leash."

Vain · 23-03-2009 11:31AM

You should of set your dog on him.

lucylu · 23-03-2009 11:34AM

It's his property he can do likes.

BTW Sheep are sheared not shaven

SEPT 23 1989 · 23-03-2009 11:35AM

had your dog a sheeps head dripping with blood in its mouth by any chance?

My name is URL · 23-03-2009 11:36AM

luckat wrote: »

Where's this lane? Post it on Google Maps for us and tell the lads in Animals and Pet Issues

Poor oul' fella was probably crazed with stress. Time is hard for farmers these days, and it's no wonder he went off on you. I hope you let him rant, then said "Of course I close gates, and as you see, my dog is on a leash."

It's not even on Google Maps! I found this though

""LH/2002/066

Castlebellingham/Kilsaran Environment Committee

Develop a walking trail to follow a traditional right of way known as Miss Anne's Lane.""

http://www.heritagecouncil.ie/grants/general/local-heritage-grant/grant-recipients/2002/

That suggests it is a right-of-way. And yes I did let him rant and was civil to him. lol

themadchef · 23-03-2009 11:52AM

Rough time of year on sheep farmers but some of them do take it to extremes.

Lack of sleep, loss of money, hatred to see the lambs ripped to shreds...some of them do lose the head a small bit.

luckat · 23-03-2009 11:55AM

Some people can be silly with their dogs - "Oh, she's grand with sheep" - then the dog takes off for the first time in her life as her wolf genes call, and chases a herd of pregnant ewes and you have abortion and prolapsed uteris all over the place.

SV · 23-03-2009 11:58AM

luckat wrote: »

Some people can be silly with their dogs - "Oh, she's grand with sheep" - then the dog takes off for the first time in her life as her wolf genes call, and chases a herd of pregnant ewes and you have abortion and prolapsed uteris all over the place.

bad memories eh?

convert · 23-03-2009 12:15PM

If it's private property then he was well within his rights to have a go at you. You shouldn't have been there.

And just because it's a right of way doesn't necessarily give you a right to be there. A lot of the old right of ways were drawn up when there were loads of small houses built in fields that had no road access, hence a right of way was needed to get to them. They were really for access only, not for randomers to go for walks with their dogs because they felt like it.

ayapatrick · 23-03-2009 12:16PM

luckat wrote: »

Some people can be silly with their dogs - "Oh, she's grand with sheep" - then the dog takes off for the first time in her life as her wolf genes call, and chases a herd of pregnant ewes and you have abortion and prolapsed uteris all over the place.

so from the horses mouth so to speak. im from a sheep farming farm, and if the op was on private land then i can tell you that the farmer could shoot the dog. (albeit i think that could be kind of unreasonable seeing as he had the dog on a leash)

Posssibly his anger might come from the fact that if anything happened to the walkers on his land he would be liable. Just imagine if a walker decides to bring your dog on a walk across my fields where there is a right of way(hypothetically) and my bull is out in the field. I can tell you that the bull is goin to charge you and the dog, knock the ****e out of the dog and possibly put the walker in the ground. what happens then when the walker decides hel put in a claim. - itd piss ya off! (one possibilty)?:)

luckat wrote: »

and prolapsed uteris all over the place.

if ya told that to most farmers they wouldnt know what yad be on about!:D "put out the lamb bed" is what theyd say

luckat · 23-03-2009 12:26PM

ayapatrick wrote: »

if ya told that to most farmers they wouldnt know what yad be on about!:D "put out the lamb bed" is what theyd say

Feels the same to the ewe, no matter what it's called, I suspect.

ayapatrick · 23-03-2009 12:31PM

luckat wrote: »

Feels the same to the ewe, no matter what it's called, I suspect.

ive seen it happen and surprisingly the ewe doesnt seem to be in any large amount of discomfort during it.

biko · 23-03-2009 12:36PM

Feckin townies coming over here and not closing gates after themselves and putting out lambs beds all over the place.

luckat · 23-03-2009 12:38PM

ayapatrick wrote: »

ive seen it happen and surprisingly the ewe doesnt seem to be in any large amount of discomfort during it.

This is because prey animals are genetically coded not to show pain even when they're in agony; predators are big babies about it - according to tests that use brain scans to monitor pain levels while scientists torture animals.

Bogger77 · 23-03-2009 12:38PM

Upward Spiral wrote: »

It's not even on Google Maps! I found this though

http://www.heritagecouncil.ie/grants/general/local-heritage-grant/grant-recipients/2002/

That suggests it is a right-of-way. And yes I did let him rant and was civil to him. lol

"Traditional" right of way, does not mean right of way for members of public.
Example, I and my family have a right of way through the back yard of a nearby house, but anyone else, using the path, would be tresspassing.
If you are tresspassing, then he can legally shoot the dog, if he can prove he was concerned about his livestock. At this time of year, best keep dogs, leashed or not, off farmers land, as they don't have to let you and your dogs on them.

Right to roam, does not mean Right to walk dogs.
Don't like it, tough.

Wagon · 23-03-2009 01:38PM

Shoot his sheep. No more lambs fror him to lock up in the basement for 24 years...

He's a farmer. Of course he does.

ScumLord · 23-03-2009 01:50PM

Like it's been said not all lanes and roads are public. Farmers love shooting dogs too.

Kess73 · 23-03-2009 01:53PM

Bogger77 wrote: »

"Traditional" right of way, does not mean right of way for members of public.
Example, I and my family have a right of way through the back yard of a nearby house, but anyone else, using the path, would be tresspassing.
If you are tresspassing, then he can legally shoot the dog, if he can prove he was concerned about his livestock. At this time of year, best keep dogs, leashed or not, off farmers land, as they don't have to let you and your dogs on them.

Right to roam, does not mean Right to walk dogs.
Don't like it, tough.

You should go and check the law instead of spouting rubbish. Legally he cannot shoot a dog that is being held on a leash, a dog that had caused no harm. What he can do legally if the person had trespassed, is either tell the person to leave the land and/or call the Gardai and have the person prosecuted for trespassing.

On the other side of the coin, if the farmer has made a threat to use a firearm in a public walkway, then the farmer can be taken to court over it.

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