Cheltenham 2009 Fantasy League: official thread

El Stuntman

**Please ensure all posts for the League are entered here.**

(PM me with any issues\queries etc that you don't want to discuss publically)

Here be the rules:

1. €50 (or $65) entry fee. Winner takes 100% of the prize pool. You must pay in advance. My pokerstars username is Stuntgirl. Anyone who slags me about this will be killed. I will pay out the prizepool immediately following the Festival to the user's account on pokerstars.
(we can make alternative arrangements if you don't have a stars account)

2. You get 1,000 fantasy euro to wager on the upcoming Cheltenham festival. Winner is obviously the person with the largest fantasy 'bank' at the end of the week.

3. Max bet per race is 100 fantasy euro. Win or each-way bets only (no place only bets). Minimum bet per race is 20 fantasy euro. You do not have to bet in every race. You can back more than one horse in a single race (up to a total stake of 100 in that race) but multiple selections can only add up to 100 fantasy euro max in that race. No doubles\trebles etc.
The Place portion of any EW bet will be paid at 1/4 the odds of the S.P., number of places determined by number of runners.
You must wager a minimum of 250 fantasy euro per day of racing (unless you start the day with less in your bank)

4. All bets for each day's racing must be nominated in this thread by 1pm on each day of racing. If you have not posted by then, you will be presumed to have placed no bets for that day. One post per entrant per day. You can edit your post up to 1pm as much as you like, any editing after 1pm will result in forfeit of 750 fantasy euro and your bets for that day being null and void.

5. All bets are at official starting prices.

6. Richie can nominate mdwexford's selections as he is banned.

7. All my decisions are final and any disagreement is pointless.

8. I will post an updated League table each evening after the day's racing.

9. If you select a horse that is subsequently declared a non-runner (and do not amend your post before 1pm), your stake is automatically transferred to the favourite in that race. In the case of joint or co-favourites, it will transfer to the horse with the lowest racecard number.

Here be the runners and riders:

paid in full: 65 * 19 = $1,235
El Stuntman
nicnicnic
hatedajacks
The Improver
[nicK]
reilly110
RasTa
DAMO72
strewelpeter
babymaker6
carrigeen
rounders123
Connie147
Derrence
jprender
Hawk Eye
Degag
eoghan104
requiem4adream

monies en route:
pppspecial

total prize pool should be $1,300 once all monies received

happy punting

KevIRL

Stickified

[nicK]

2.40 star de mohaison.. 100 win
3.20 sublimity.. 25ew
4.00 l'ami.. 100win

nicnicnic

Cousin Vinny 1.30 €100 win
Cailin Alainn 2.40 €25 EW
Tartak 2.05 €25 EW
Binocular 3.20 €100 win
Dix Villez 4.00 €25 EW
United 4.40 €50 EW





probably add a few in early races tomorrow if I'm out of bed early enough


El Stunt shouldn't we have a minimum amount that has to be bet each day at least €250 or so


edited again, cant decide if win or each way is best strategy guess I'll go prudent for day one

carrigeen

money transferred

heading there in the morning for 2 days racing so i will post my tues and weds picks now if thats ok

tues
1.30 cousin vinny 100€ win
2.05 kalahari king 25€ ew
3.20 celestial halo 100€ win
4.00 lami 100€ win
4.40 megans joy 25€ ew

Weds
1.30 coe 75€ win
2.05 mad max 100€ win
2.40 cooldine 100€ win
3.20 master minded 100€ win
4.00 dansimar 25€ ew
5.15 dunquib 100€ win

El Stuntman

nicnicnic wrote: »

El Stunt shouldn't we have a minimum amount that has to be bet each day at least €250 or so

good idea, 250 seems reasonable - can't see any of these particular degens protecting their bank on Day 4 though!

El Stuntman

carrigeen wrote: »

money transferred

heading there in the morning for 2 days racing so i will post my tues and weds picks now if thats ok

tues
1.30 cousin vinny 100€ win
2.05 kalahari king 25€ ew
3.20 celestial halo 100€ win
4.00 lami 100€ win
4.40 megans joy 25€ ew

Weds
1.30 coe 75€ win
2.05 mad max 100€ win
2.40 cooldine 100€ win
3.20 master minded 100€ win
4.00 dansimar 25€ ew
5.15 dunquib 100€ win

no problem, enjoy (ye fecker)

El Stuntman

[nicK] wrote: »

tue 2:40: star de mohaison - 100pts win

Hi nicK,

note the new condition above (just added); you must bet at least 250 fantasy euro per day

The Improver

1. 1:30 red moloney 50 e/w
2. 2:05 forpaddytheplasterer 50 e/w
3. 3:20 binocular 100 win


total: 300

nicnicnic

The Improver wrote: »

1. 1:30 red moloney 50 e/w
2. 2:05 forpaddytheplasterer 50 e/w
3. 3:20 binocular 100 win
4. 3:20 brave inca 25 e/w

total: 350

3. Max bet per race is 100 fantasy euro. Win or each-way bets only (no place only bets). Minimum bet per race is 20 fantasy euro. You do not have to bet in every race. You can back more than one horse in a single race

The Improver

nicnicnic wrote: »

3. Max bet per race is 100 fantasy euro. Win or each-way bets only (no place only bets). Minimum bet per race is 20 fantasy euro. You do not have to bet in every race. You can back more than one horse in a single race

oops, will be back for more

califano

Couple of suggestions. If someone selects a horse that turns out to be a non-runner and they dont edit their new selection in by 1pm the stake should go onto the fav in the race. In the case of joint or co-favs it goes on the lowest racecard numbered fav. This will stop requests and save you a lot of time in the afternoon running around editing in new selections for people during the day.

Friday. Players can opt to pm you their selections on friday morning(friday only) instead of posting them into the thread. After 1pm you copy and paste the pm'd selections into the thread. This is to stop cunning players like Nicky Power who lets say are so far ahead going into friday from copying longshot selections of his nearest pursuer/s so significant ground cant be gained:P!.

RichieLawlor

El Stuntman wrote: »

Hi nicK,

note the new condition above (just added); you must bet at least 250 fantasy euro per day

How can you add a condition this late on one participants recommendation also it's a stupid condition, I'm withdrawing.

Edit to say md out aswell

connie147

$130 transferred to stuntgirl for connie147 and Derrence.

Selections to follow.

Connie

RasTa

RichieLawlor wrote: »

How can you add a condition this late on one participants recommendation also it's a stupid condition, I'm withdrawing.

Edit to say md out aswell

Busto?

jprender

Transferred on Stars, winners to follow later.

connie147

Tues Chelt bets for Derrence

cousin vinny

---

€100 win--1.30pm
planet of sound--€50 e.w.--2.05pm
celestial halo----€50 e.w.---3.20pm.
Garde Champepre-€100 win.--4.00pm

400 fantasy euros staked.


Tues selections for Connie147

Forpaddytheplasterer--€50 e.w.---2.05pm.
Drombeag

---

€50 e.w.---4.00pm.
Quevega

---

€100 win.--4.40pm.
Osana

---

€50 e.w.---3.20pm

€400 staked.


Connie

nicnicnic

connie147 wrote: »

Tues Chelt bets for Derrence

cousin vinny

---

€100 win--1.30pm
planet of sound--€50 e.w.--2.05pm
celestial halo----€50 e.w.---3.20pm.
Garde Champepre-€100 win.--4.00pm

400 fantasy euros staked.


Tues selections for Connie147

Forpaddytheplasterer--€50 e.w.---2.05pm.
Drombeag

---

€50 e.w.---4.00pm.
Quevega

---

€100 win.--4.40pm.
Osana

---

€50 e.w.---3.20pm

€400 staked.


Connie

Connie are you in Cheltenham, whats the weather like

El Stuntman

what's the story with these Cousin Vinny rumours flying about?

also, mdwexford and Richie, LOL :pac:

they obviously didn't read Rule 7: "7. All my decisions are final and any disagreement is pointless."

nicnicnic

El Stuntman wrote: »

what's the story with these Cousin Vinny rumours flying about?

"

just this i think

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=59345757&postcount=53123

El Stuntman

[nicK] wrote: »

tue 2:40: star de mohaison - $250 win

sorry nicK, you probably feel like I am picking on you!

it's max 100 per race but you must stake at least 250 in total per day of racing

sorry about this, the 250 per day rule got posted after you put your bet up

El Stuntman

rounders123 wrote: »

Couple of suggestions. If someone selects a horse that turns out to be a non-runner and they dont edit their new selection in by 1pm the stake should go onto the fav in the race. In the case of joint or co-favs it goes on the lowest racecard numbered fav. This will stop requests and save you a lot of time in the afternoon running around editing in new selections for people during the day.

seems reasonable, I will amend the rules accordingly

rounders123 wrote: »

Friday. Players can opt to pm you their selections on friday morning(friday only) instead of posting them into the thread. After 1pm you copy and paste the pm'd selections into the thread. This is to stop cunning players like Nicky Power who lets say are so far ahead going into friday from copying longshot selections of his nearest pursuer/s so significant ground cant be gained:P!.

very devious of you rounders, good suggestion

people are free to do this any day if they fear that their world-beating form analysis is likely to be copied!

RasTa

Selections Pm'ed

El Stuntman

RasTa wrote: »

Selections Pm'ed

a cautious man

I will post them up after the 1pm deadline tomorrow

Hawk Eye

Just transferred you the monies El S from KKcardcooler on stars.

Selections

1:30 Go Native €50 win
2:05 Calgary Bay €100 win
3:20 Binocular €50 win
4:40 Quevega €50 win

Just to make the calculations easier im FTW on everything and no loling at my choices, I know very little about horse racing.

connie147

nicnicnic wrote: »

Connie are you in Cheltenham, whats the weather like

I'm here since yesterday Nicky and havent seen a drop of rain yet!!

Connie

hatedajacks

Tuesday selections
2.40 Star De Mohaison 50 e/w
3.20 Punjabi 50 e/w
4.00 Dix Villez 50 e/w

Degag

Just transferred $65 on Stars - SN is C-DAWG919

Tues bets are:

1.30: Kempes 25 e/w
2.05: Calgary Bay 50 e/w
2.40: Star de Muhaison 25 e/w
3.20: Katchit 25 e/w
4.00: Dix Velez 25 e/w
4.40: Chomba Womba 25/e/w

babymaker6

my runners for tuesday
4.00- l,ami 100- win
2.05-planet of sound-30 e/w
2.40-millenium royal-30 e/w
4.40-give it time-30 e/w

El Stuntman

interesting that no-one has gone for a big spin strategy on Day 1 yet...

also, what's the word on the going, is it officially turned soft?

aya14

Sick I can't take part due to not being around thurs and fri:mad:

Going as of 7.00am officially is, on all 3 courses is Good to Soft(soft in places)

Theres 75% chance it'll remain g to s for the first 2 days at least

EDIT: the ground for last 3 hurdles and the hill is good to soft nice ground for Binocular to sprint away

jprender

1.30 50win Kempes
2.05 50win Imsingingtheblues
3.20 50EW SnapTie
3.20 100win Osana
4.00 100win Lami
4.40 100win Chomba Womba

TOTAL BET = 500 Points

El Stuntman

jprender wrote: »

1.30 50win Kempes
2.05 50win Imsingingtheblues
3.20 50EW SnapTie
3.20 100win Osana
4.00 100win Lami
4.40 100win Chomba Womba

TOTAL BET = 500 Points

3. Max bet per race is 100 fantasy euro. :pac:

can you either get rid of one selection for the 3.20 or else change the amounts?

califano

Tuesdays Selections(€250)

1.30 - €25 Go Native

2.05 - €25 Golden Silver, €25 Planet Of Sound

2-40 - €25 Lothian Falcon, €25 Tot O'Whiskey

3-20 - €25 Celestial Halo, €25 Osana

4-00 - €25 Puntal

4-40 - €25 Give It Time, €25 Gaspara

El Stuntman

rounders123 wrote: »

Tuesdays Selections(€250)

1.30 - €25 Go Native

2.05 - €25 Golden Silver, €25 Planet Of Sound

2-40 - €25 Lothian Falcon, €25 Tot O'Whiskey

3-20 - €25 Celestial Halo, €25 Osana

4-00 - €25 Puntal

4-40 - €25 Give It Time, €25 Gaspara

interesting strategy

califano

El Stuntman wrote: »

interesting strategy

Aye, trying to get the go ahead run to be in the van. Im not quite the grinder Hawkeye is:pac:

eoghan104

1.30 Micheal Flips €50 e/w
2.05 Follow the Plan €25 e/w
2.40 Millenium Royal €25 e/w
3.20 Punjabi €50 e/w
4.40 United €100 win

El Stuntman

my selections:

1.30 Copper Bleu 50 e\w
2.05 Tatenan 100 win
2.40 Maljimar 50 e\w
3.20 Whiteoak 50 e\w
4.00 Dix Villez 100 win
4.40 Oscar Rebel 50 e\w

califano

El Stuntman wrote: »

my selections:

1.30 Copper Bleu 50 e\w
2.05 Tatenan 100 win
2.40 Maljimar 50 e\w
3.20 Whiteoak 50 e\w
4.00 Dix Villez 100 win
4.40 Oscar Rebel 50 e\w

Veri agriessive

strewelpeter

60 Cousin Vinny
20 ew Leos Lucky Star
100 Calgary Bay
60 Wichita Linesman
20 win Harchibald
20 win Whiteoak

jprender

El Stuntman wrote: »

3. Max bet per race is 100 fantasy euro. :pac:

can you either get rid of one selection for the 3.20 or else change the amounts?

Sorry bout that.

Cancel the bet on Osana please.

smurph

Can you guys take a look at John Duggan (today fm) forecasts
http://www.todayfm.com/Sport/Tip-of-the-Week.aspx
TIP OF THE WEEK - Tuesday 10th March

Cheltenham Day 1

€500 Charity Bet with Paddy Power

2.40pm - €100 each way on Cailin Alainn at 10 to 1

3.20pm - €50 each way on Sentry Duty at 28 to 1

1.30pm - €50 each way on Micheal Flips at 14 to 1

4.40pm - €50 each way on Aura About You at 50 to 1

what do you thinks of his choices??

thanks in advance

eoghan104

smurph wrote: »

1.30pm - €50 each way on Micheal Flips at 14 to 1


what do you thinks of his choices??

thanks in advance

Dunno about the rest Collette but this guy is my main bet of the day I think he has a great chnace.

You not getting involved in the league?

eoghan104

Were missing alot of selections correct?!!

What price the winning amount being <€1,001???

DAMO72

1:30 Medermid €25 e/w
2:05 Gauvian €25 e/w
2:40 Billyvoddan €25 e/w
3:20 Ashkazar €50 e/w
4:40 Quevaga €50 win

smurph

Nop, I honestly don't know much about betting on horses tbh..... and im about to head home with flu like symptoms... poor me... sigh

El Stuntman

smurph wrote: »

Nop, I honestly don't know much about betting on horses tbh.....

that hasn't stopped the rest of us

LOL, I see I'm the only contestant to have laid out the max on every race today. I predict I'll be busto quite fast.

it's the lads like Rounders to watch out for imo, staying on from the back when the early front-runners tire

reilly110, you have 40 mins to get your selections in!

El Stuntman

eoghan104 wrote: »

Were missing alot of selections correct?!!

from people who paid in, it's only reilly110 who's missing

no sign of the other lads selections or money yet, they have up to 1pm to post either or both

eoghan104 wrote: »

What price the winning amount being <€1,001???

I'll give you 6/1 on that bet

eoghan104

El Stuntman wrote: »

from people who paid in, it's only reilly110 who's missing

no sign of the other lads selections or money yet, they have up to 1pm to post either or both



I'll give you 6/1 on that bet

Im almost tempted but no im gona be doing enough stupid bets this week!!!!

El Stuntman

OK, the following have been removed from the League as they have not posted selections or paid monies by the 1pm deadline:

smcb
Whyno
Lplate
pppspecial
White Knight

reilly110 has paid in but not posted any selections , rule is that you must bet at least 250 per day.

not sure what to do about that, my gut feel is that he is disadvantaging himself in a winner takes all scenario. I'll see if he posts anything up to post time of the first.

aya14

Link for those who can't access t.v
http://www.justin.tv/jungledragon1

Yeah El S your probably best off to accept Reilly's selection pre race1 nothing thereafter.

Gl to all