Hudson, Nugent, or Ifor Williams

Muckit

bob charles wrote: »

as someone that drags a hudson up to a 1k miles some weeks

Wow wow wow. Now that's some truckin'. Is it from going around to marts? You must burn alot of 'dazzel'....

redzerologhlen

Anyone have a porter box. Fella I know has a 14ft one and he never has it off the jeep. They look very well built and his is holding up well and an awful lot of cattle have gone through it

Link

reilig

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Anyone have a porter box. Fella I know has a 14ft one and he never has it off the jeep. They look very well built and his is holding up well and an awful lot of cattle have gone through it

Link

Porter are the king of trailers. Very well made. Easy to pull. very stylish. Very expensive. Hold their value like no other!!

vanderbadger

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Anyone have a porter box. Fella I know has a 14ft one and he never has it off the jeep. They look very well built and his is holding up well and an awful lot of cattle have gone through it

Link

yes bought a very clean 2nd hand one, 12 by 5"9. very happy so far anyway. they are very strong although they now make a lighter variation of the same trailer as well. you would want to clean them fairly quickly after use though as the corrugation in the metal seems to make ****e stick.

Muckit

reilig wrote: »

Porter are the king of trailers. Very well made. Easy to pull. very stylish. Very expensive. Hold their value like no other!!

I'd agree 100%. The Rolls Royce. They really stand out. You could bring elephants in them and they'd hardly dent them I'd say You'd rare enough. I'd be scared to ask the price

redzerologhlen

Muckit wrote: »

I'd agree 100%. The Rolls Royce. They really stand out. You could bring elephants in them and they'd hardly dent them I'd say You'd rare enough. I'd be scared to ask the price

They do look seriously well made. I would imagine they are very heavy though but could be mistaken. Not a massive fan of nugent trailers. I hate the way the ramps get dented from cattle walking up them. They could be ok apart from that though. I must ask your man how much the porter set him back. He trades them every couple of years, He has a few pajeros worn out pulling it too.

vanderbadger

redzerologhlen wrote: »

They do look seriously well made. I would imagine they are very heavy though but could be mistaken. Not a massive fan of nugent trailers. I hate the way the ramps get dented from cattle walking up them. They could be ok apart from that though. I must ask your man how much the porter set him back. He trades them every couple of years, He has a few pajeros worn out pulling it too.

they are easy pulled, at least in comparision to our old bateson box.
http://www.portertrailers-tractors.co.uk/
neveille porter, nnice chap to talk to, think the are similar price wise to the other makes

Muckit

redzerologhlen wrote: »

I hate the way the ramps get dented from cattle walking up them.

I think they solved that didn't they? I remember when I was looking at trailers this time last year, the nugent dealer near me said that they had redesigned the back end with new interlocking sheeting on the ramp and new tail lights. He could have been waddin' me up to my eyeballs though!

vanderbadger

Muckit wrote: »

I'd agree 100%. The Rolls Royce. They really stand out. You could bring elephants in them and they'd hardly dent them I'd say You'd rare enough. I'd be scared to ask the price

I seem to remember recommending one to you...overengineered I think you said

bob charles

Muckit wrote: »

Wow wow wow. Now that's some truckin'. Is it from going around to marts? You must burn alot of 'dazzel'....

Bought the current jeep on the 20th of April, got 39k km up as of this week, quick sum and that comes out at around 7k of fuel in 7 months:eek:.Doing sums are bad:D

Muckit

vanderbadger wrote: »

I seem to remember recommending one to you...overengineered I think you said

Ha ha Vander!!:D You did indeed and yes that was my comment at the time! I also said they were a well made trailer back then aswel though as I recall

I'I still stick by what I said, and add that a trailer that's light enough to do the job and still can take abuse... and is cheaper still wins out in my books! Aerlite trailers (the next best IMO) fits the criteria there... then again I would say that and I having one!!

I would also give preference to buying and supporting the nearest man to you. You support him and hopefully he'I support you if and when he's needed.

vanderbadger

Muckit wrote: »

Ha ha Vander!!:D You did indeed and yes that was my comment at the time! I also said they were a well made trailer back then aswel though as I recall

I'I still stick by what I said, and add that a trailer that's light enough to do the job and still can take abuse... and is cheaper still wins out in my books! Aerlite trailers (the next best IMO) fits the criteria there... then again I would say that and I having one!!

I would also give preference to buying and supporting the nearest man to you. You support him and hopefully he'I support you if and when he's needed.

im only messing, those aerlite trailers look very strong as well

Muckit

bob charles wrote: »

Bought the current jeep on the 20th of April, got 39k km up as of this week, quick sum and that comes out at around 7k of fuel in 7 months:eek:.Doing sums are bad:D

Holy cow! That'd soon negate any 'bargain bunch' you picked up at the mart! You'd want shares in Esso or your own oil well and refinery!

bob charles

Muckit wrote: »

Holy cow! That'd soon negate any 'bargain bunch' you picked up at the mart! You'd want shares in Esso or your own oil well and refinery!

Our diesel is currently costing around €20 - €25 per animal slaughtered!! if one was to add in contractor fuel and feedstuff fuel that would quickly rise to €50 per head I would think. just a cost of doing business I suppose. Its the one cost I can change, yes we try to be as efficient as possible but we still have the work to cover. Anyone chipped a landcruiser, looking for better MPG

blue5000

bob charles wrote: »

Our diesel is currently costing around €20 - €25 per animal slaughtered!! if one was to add in contractor fuel and feedstuff fuel that would quickly rise to €50 per head I would think. just a cost of doing business I suppose. Its the one cost I can change, yes we try to be as efficient as possible but we still have the work to cover. Anyone chipped a landcruiser, looking for better MPG

Jez bob thats a lot of driving, I'm averagein 24.5 mpg in a 97 LC, thats with half trailer work, the rest is tippin around with a few bags of meal. Often wondered does an intercooler make much difference.

moy83

Would a cattle truck be anymore economical than a jeep if you were buying and selling fairly often ? Two fellas beside me have bought cattle trucks in the last year and they wouldnt be on the road every day with them either . I must ask them was it comfort or economy they bought them for

razor8

reilig wrote: »

McCorry Agri in Derrylin.

EUR 4100 for a Nugent 12 x 6. That was 2 years ago but the haven't gone up much. Phelim is the owner. Easy to negotiate with and he will deliver. He has a full selection in stock. After 2 years, I'm still very happy with my nugent. Its easy pulled and very steady on the road!!

yes I know him, he's renowned for been one of the cheapest, must take a spin down

bob charles

moy83 wrote: »

Would a cattle truck be anymore economical than a jeep if you were buying and selling fairly often ? Two fellas beside me have bought cattle trucks in the last year and they wouldnt be on the road every day with them either . I must ask them was it comfort or economy they bought them for

yeah and neigh, if you need a jeep then running a second vehicle costs allot of extra money. To be legal then you have to run a 10t or 12t truck at the min,as a 7.5t would only have a payload of something like 3.5t. Have you priced insurance/tax for a 12t, then they would be doing less than 10mpg. so you would want to be running full one way all the time. Some marts I might only have 5 animals, If I have more I get a haulier or do a second run. We used to run a 26ft truck but it cost allot of money. but as always we are thinking of going back to this route

Attie

Hi all
First post have been reading thread with interest.
Just posting to let all know I attend an auction in Omagh on the first Saturday of every month, have no affiliation to this auction.
Just letting all know about it as there are a good selection of trailers at most sales from scrap to new as all will know if going make sure to do home work first.

http://home2.btconnect.com/pollocks/auctions.html

TUBBY

Heh lads and ladies

Not to steal the thread but my question is on the same vein.
Thinking of trading jeep against a 2L TDi Passat or Octavia but wonder does anyone here use 2L cars to pull trailers and how they find them.

The jeep is ideal job but with the young crew, the commercial is not an option anymore and passenger jeep is a rob.

Was doing the sums and reckon that for all the time i pull the 12' trailer with more than 4 weanlings home from mart, it would amount to the same money between paying someone to bring cattle home if you bought a good few and what you would save in the year with a Passat compared to jeep on diesel doing round 15K miles.

Passat and trailer fine for 4 or less I was hoping. What ye reckon.

As part of this, a good light 10' trailer would be the ideal thing. any ideas.

Juniorhurler

TUBBY wrote: »

Heh lads and ladies

Not to steal the thread but my question is on the same vein.
Thinking of trading jeep against a 2L TDi Passat or Octavia but wonder does anyone here use 2L cars to pull trailers and how they find them.

The jeep is ideal job but with the young crew, the commercial is not an option anymore and passenger jeep is a rob.

Was doing the sums and reckon that for all the time i pull the 12' trailer with more than 4 weanlings home from mart, it would amount to the same money between paying someone to bring cattle home if you bought a good few and what you would save in the year with a Passat compared to jeep on diesel doing round 15K miles.

Passat and trailer fine for 4 or less I was hoping. What ye reckon.

As part of this, a good light 10' trailer would be the ideal thing. any ideas.

15000 miles at 30 mpg = 500 litres of diesel
15000 miles at 50mpg = 300 litres of diesel

Saving is roughly 200 litres at say €1.50 to round things up= €300

I worked this out as I am in the same boat. I bought a crewcab, Isuzu D-max 06. Now I know I should not be carrying the kids in back but what the hell, I do. Commercial tax is still €288. On a 2L car from 2006 motor tax is over €600 afaik. This difference wipes out your fuel savings.

TUBBY

Hi JH, From calculation above, the diff in diesel would be gallons rather than litres. Also I had it down at 30 v 55.
That worked out around E1600 difference.

Also, See a few Passats from 08 with low mileage that was much same price as I would expect to get for Jeep so Tax low too.

I had thought of crew cab also but was nervous of budget as politicians always wanted to exclude the CC from the commercial tax bracket. Most CC's are rated at round 2ton also which isnt far off what the octavia is rated at.

That was all the pluses I had for the car but had a lot of negatives too especially how steady the car would be with trailer and would it pull the puddings out of it. Also would have to sell me Tuffmac 12' which is a heavy trailer and buy a light one. Most important one was the freedom of being able to buy 7-8 weanlings and bring them all in one slap. Only thing is with the prices the way they were this year, that wasnt happening too often.

Juniorhurler

TUBBY wrote: »

Hi JH, From calculation above, the diff in diesel would be gallons rather than litres. Also I had it down at 30 v 55.
That worked out around E1600 difference.

Also, See a few Passats from 08 with low mileage that was much same price as I would expect to get for Jeep so Tax low too.

I had thought of crew cab also but was nervous of budget as politicians always wanted to exclude the CC from the commercial tax bracket. Most CC's are rated at round 2ton also which isnt far off what the octavia is rated at.

That was all the pluses I had for the car but had a lot of negatives too especially how steady the car would be with trailer and would it pull the puddings out of it. Also would have to sell me Tuffmac 12' which is a heavy trailer and buy a light one. Most important one was the freedom of being able to buy 7-8 weanlings and bring them all in one slap. Only thing is with the prices the way they were this year, that wasnt happening too often.

This is true. My bad:mad:. The D-max is rated to tow 3 tonnes. If they don't suit they don't suit. I do only about 12000km a year so the diesel is not a huge issue. I did have a passat and they are fine with any trailer up to 10' with 4 or 5 max weanlings but no bigger. I never got near 55 on short spins, more like 45-46. Sorry for the mistake in the calculations. Best of luck in the decision

TUBBY

Good man JH, I didnt know that the DMax was 3 ton. thats a diff story. The navar and hilux are only 2 ton. That combines both really. The diesel thing was only a justification to myself for having to change but the towing power of 3 ton with the passenger job is the dogs bks.

Thanks for that. Will have to change the search on Carzone.

Juniorhurler

TUBBY wrote: »

Good man JH, I didnt know that the DMax was 3 ton. thats a diff story. The navar and hilux are only 2 ton. That combines both really. The diesel thing was only a justification to myself for having to change but the towing power of 3 ton with the passenger job is the dogs bks.

Thanks for that. Will have to change the search on Carzone.

Ya I find it a great job to pull. I only looked at them cos the navara are made of cardboard and chewing gum and hilux's require a second mortgage to buy. They are not as comfy as an 06 on hilux or navara, but like I said I only do 12000km a year and the bosswoman has a comfy car (Accord) for long family spins.

Muckit

TUBBY wrote: »

especially how steady the car would be with trailer and would it pull the puddings out of it

Would you not just stick it behind the tractor? And just use the car as a car and not be trying to make a jeep out of it

Tom C

phelim on 0857051166 he will give you best deal
mc corry agri

FixItAginTomora

Becareful who you deal with sometimes. Obviously this may not have any bearing on the quality of trailers but all the same...!
http://www.impartialreporter.com/news/roundup/articles/2011/11/10/394916-agri-supplier-jailed-for-arranging-another-person

farawaygrass

what do ye think of the tuffmac 12 by 6 trailers with fold down sheep decks? anyone have one? or any experience the jim murphy's aerlight trailers from tuam? looked at both new, murphy's tiny bit cheaper but sheep decks not fold down. and they have the led lights but tuffmac dont. any feedback greatly appreciated

epfff

farawaygrass wrote: »

what do ye think of the tuffmac 12 by 6 trailers with fold down sheep decks? anyone have one? or any experience the jim murphy's aerlight trailers from tuam? looked at both new, murphy's tiny bit cheaper but sheep decks not fold down. and they have the led lights but tuffmac dont. any feedback greatly appreciated

Have Murphy tuam 14 trailer here very happy
2 neighbours have the 12s very happy good solid trailer
The 14 is nicer pull but longer draw bar if you work in tight spots
it is a disadvantage that the decks come out but how often do you switch to decks that you are not at base
I know it never happens with me but I often herd 1 neighbour giving out about it when he moves cows to out farm and wants to bring home sheep but he still kept with Murphy for overall package