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C&H sex discussion thread
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Deleted User wrote: »Some of them have. Boots have certainly got a lot cheaper. Don't know about independent pharmacies, but I tend to avoid those. They're always filled with middle-aged women behind the counter who are silently tutting and tsking you while you make your purchase.
Colleges do give them for free. I wouldn't feel right purchasing them online because I wouldn't be sure of their condition. Course, the same could be said for purchasing them in a shop.
I love the middle-aged women who tut!
Makes it fun.
I can understand not trusting the ones online, although there are some very safe sites out there.0 -
I love the middle-aged women who tut! Makes it fun.
I can understand not trusting the ones online, although there are some very safe sites out there.
Those middle-aged women are the sole reason it took me so long to work up the courage to buy condoms that very first time. Now .. I guess I don't really care. But I still feel more comfortable buying them from Boots; they always tend to have a better selection (I find it's really good to try different types out), are less judgemental, and have the better prices. Now if only they moved them that bit closer the counter.0 -
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I hate that sex and condoms make people nervous about buying condoms. A guy I was with for 4 years never once bought them because he was embarrassed. The way I see it is it's just sex. Most people have sex and most of them (I hope) use some sort of contraception. If so many people are doing it then why are so many people embarrassed by it?
Are you also a sex ed teacher? If not, why not! :pac: 0 -
Deleted User wrote: »Because there's a taboo associated with it in this country. I don't know why. It's probably Catholic guilt or something.
Totally agree. I wonder if Ireland will be like that in 40 or 50 years? (I also wonder if old people clothes will be no longer needed in 40 or 50 years because we will be cool old people.)challengemaster wrote: »Are you also a sex ed teacher? If not, why not! :pac:
Unfortunately no. The SPHE handouts are great fun.0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »Because for younger kids sex is embarrassing. Then for teens sex is everything. It's only when you reach adulthood that you actually start to enjoy it.
Teens, even younger ones (14 onwards), seem to have no problem talking about sex in public amongst their friends. I'd imagine those at 14 have a lack of real understanding, but the older ones may see it as some way of gaining a higher social status, of being cool. For some adults, sex is still everything! But for the most part I think we're getting more mature about it! We have a way to go though. Eventually the Catholic guilt that started with our great great (etc) grandparents will dissolve, but hopefully not to the detriment of society. 0 -
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Teens, even younger ones (14 onwards), seem to have no problem talking about sex in public amongst their friends. I'd imagine those at 14 have a lack of real understanding, but the older ones may see it as some way of gaining a higher social status, of being cool. For some adults, sex is still everything! But for the most part I think we're getting more mature about it! We have a way to go though. Eventually the Catholic guilt that started with our great great (etc) grandparents will dissolve, but hopefully not to the detriment of society.
But if you sat down these 14 year olds and had a proper discussion about it, how many of them will be willing to? I went through that stage where sex was everything. It got me in a lot of trouble too. But I've grown up and now starting to see the other parts of it - that feeling of connection, of being synchronised with another person. The warmth during and after. Hearing and feeling the person's heart beating fast.0 -
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going to a catholic all girls school attached to a convent, we've had little to no sex education, we asked out religion teacher to do STI's and STD's and whatnot with us this year, with the gory details seeing as we are 6th years, we spent about a class or two doing it and then for some reason ended up just learning about human reproduction.
My class did the same thing when I was in 5th or 6th year and we ended up just learning reproduction again. and we were attached to a convent too!
That's just messed up...Last time i got some "proper" sex education was in 6th class, when somebody asked what masturbation was the answer we got was "it's a very selfish and dirty thing, you should never do it."Deleted User wrote: »Thats the problem with Sex Ed in this country. They're only ever willing to talk about the after-effects and the worst-case scenarios. They are never willing to talk about what to do to ensure there are no after-effects or worst-case scenarios.
Or you just don't get any at all. Everything I know about sex and contraception and what to do if the worst happens is all self-taught. If I'd relied on school or parents (both swimming in catholic guilt) to teach me any of this I'd probably be pregnant by now.
I wish I'd had a teacher who'd come in and actually just been straightforward with us. That sex is perfectly natural and this is what you need to do to keep safe and these are the options available to you if you get pregnant and these are the stis you can get.
Silly silly catholic ireland....0 -
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Last time i got some "proper" sex education was in 6th class, when somebody asked what masturbation was the answer we got was "it's a very selfish and dirty thing, you should never do it."
... and we all know you didn't!challengemaster wrote: »Now that's just advice that should not be listened to!
:pac:
(Meh, neither did I, for that matter!)
Actually, Kate, you should have asked why it was selfish, did she mean you should only masturbate other people?
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randylonghorn wrote: »... and we all know you didn't!
Which one of us are you talking to?
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You, oh notorious one!challengemaster wrote: »Which one of us are you talking to?
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Though hopefully kateos had more sense than to listen to that kind of shoite either!!0 -
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Cause those russian orgies, gettin poisoned,stabbed etc and still surviving have made us all a little suspicious of you :cool:randylonghorn wrote: »/sigh
I am NOT Rasputin!
Why do I have to keep saying that to people?!
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As a teacher I'd be very willing to be straight with the students. I don't teach anything that would allow me to do so though, and even if I did, the school is under the patronage of the church and it most likely just would not be allowed. Many of my colleagues would be willing to do the same.
The senior classes, though, don't tend to do SPHE or anything like it. The one class where they could have an open discussion would be, ironically, Religion, and that is just not going to happen. Not officially anyway.
The problem is that Ireland is a religious society with a non-religious population. Schools are at the centre of this. I would class myself as fairly religious, but that would not govern my sexual beliefs. The chances to spread a balanced view in schools are limited.
Yep, you've elegantly expressed what I mean
You're the ideal candidate. Young enough to still understand "the kids of today". Old enough to be have a bit of experience under the belt.
Because what you crave at that age is straight talking, preferably from someone not the same age as your parents.
But you're confined by the rules of your institution, and this is the case all over the country. It's a pity it isn't seen as that big an issue because young people don't have a vote, and parents (in general) just don't seem to care enough about it.0 -
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Yep, you've elegantly expressed what I mean
You're the ideal candidate. Young enough to still understand "the kids of today". Old enough to be have a bit of experience under the belt.
Because what you crave at that age is straight talking, preferably from someone not the same age as your parents.
But you're confined by the rules of your institution, and this is the case all over the country. It's a pity it isn't seen as that big an issue because young people don't have a vote, and parents (in general) just don't seem to care enough about it.
\o/ I'm young enough to understand 'the kids of today'? Does that mean I'm cool? Ha, in yore face kiddies!
Thing is, even if young people had a vote, and even if parents cared enough, it would still be practically impossible to implement a course dealing with the real issues surrounding sexuality in the majority of schools because of the widespread religious involvement in schools. It is such a pity because while there are people like myself who did not need to be told about everything, there are so much more who know so little about sex and the issues surrounding it. It is these people who are being let down.0 -
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See I would never have seen it that way. I think we need to have a mature conversation about sex. I don't think you're quite there yet. Ultimate Chin wrote: »Wheres the fun in that?:pac:
LOL.
She's right though, this thread is probably one of the best pieces of the whole website. It's a fantastic resource that deals with the basics, clears up the misconceptions and allows young people to break out from behind an old taboo.
The fact that it hasn't been locked/moved to the S&S forum is a testament to how well-run this part of the forum really is.0 -
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Thats a balls.Aisling(",) wrote: »mine still preach abstinance till marriage and id say unless i was like 26 and in a like 4 year relationship my mam would think its wrong and even then she wouldnt be too happy.
I decided feck it im not hiding it. Left condoms in open view in my room when I was 17(hadnt had sex yet, just got them to get the nerves of buying them out of the way and left them out).
Of course they were seen and they asked why I had them. Explained I was in a relationship a long time(which they knew) and that we'd thought about it and we were eventually gonna have sex.
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Ultimate Chin wrote: »Thats a balls.
I decided feck it im not hiding it. Left condoms in open view in my room when I was 17(hadnt had sex yet, just got them to get the nerves of buying them out of the way and left them out).
Of course they were seen and they asked why I had them. Explained I was in a relationship a long time(which they knew) and that we'd thought about it and we were eventually gonna have sex.
Accepted, given little lecture on everything and that was that
my mam knows im on the pill but for different reasons.
dear god if i had condoms in my room id more then likely be placed under house arrest.like the lad im seeing now was up in my house like two weeks ago and hes the first lad theyve let me have in the house and if im in anyone elses house they say im not allowed in without parents unless its just girls(of course i dont stick to it).
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Lol, in fairness, Janey, I would argue that a mature conversation about sex doesn't always have to be a completely solemn one, and especially when dealing with teenagers.See I would never have seen it that way. I think we need to have a mature conversation about sex. I don't think you're quite there yet.
As an old teacher of my own used to say "life is too serious to be taken solemnly" ... and if there's one aspect of life which I think that applies to more than others, this is it ...0 -
randylonghorn wrote: »Lol, in fairness, Janey, I would argue that a mature conversation about sex doesn't always have to be a completely solemn one, and especially when dealing with teenagers.
As an old teacher of my own used to say "life is too serious to be taken solemnly" ... and if there's one aspect of life which I think that applies to more than others, this is it ...
Indeed, and the smilies in my post indicated a joke. 0 -
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