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EU legislation will allow authorities search your PC remotly without a warrent.

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  • 05-01-2009 3:25pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭


    Police and state intelligence agencies from several countries may soon be working together to secretly hack into private citizens' personal computers without their knowledge and without a warrant.

    According to a London Times report, the police hacking process, called "remote searching," enables law enforcement to gather information from e-mails, instant messages and Web browsers, even while hundreds of miles away.

    A new edict by the European Union's council of ministers in Brussels has paved the way for international law enforcement agencies to begin remote searching and sharing the information with each other.

    According to the Times, the United Kingdom's Home Office, the nation's lead government department for immigration, drugs and counter-terrorism enforcement, has already quietly adopted a plan that would enable French, German and other European Union police forces to request remote searching be done on UK citizens' computers.

    This is as intrusive as someone busting down your hall door and coming into your home.

    This just gives us siome insight to the type of envasive totalitarian control we can expect from the EU and all this is before the European Constitution gets ratified.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5439604.ece


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  • Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Oh no :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,866 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Snyper is NOT gonna like this!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I've missed you Run_to_da_Hills.

    It's great to be back at work again!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Damn fatcats, stealing our megahurtz and our... Well, stealing our megahurtz.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Quick guys. EVERYONE. Turn your PC's off.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982


    Lets all look up porn so when they search through our PC's they will think all we do is look at porn.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    chin_grin wrote: »
    Quick guys. EVERYONE. Turn your PC's off.

    Done!
    fnaw fnaw fnaw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    What about this part?
    A remote search can be granted if a senior officer says he “believes” that it is “proportionate” and necessary to prevent or detect serious crime — defined as any offence attracting a jail sentence of more than three years

    followed by
    Police say that such methods are necessary to investigate suspects who use cyberspace to carry out crimes. These include paedophiles, internet fraudsters, identity thieves and terrorists.

    Im not a paedophile, an internet fraudster, an identity thief or a terrorist. So unless you are, who cares?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    ....and this is why I use a Mac.

    *self-satisfied smug grin*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Lets all look up porn so when they search through our PC's they will think all we do is look at porn.

    And if everyone looks at porn, that'll create the perfect cover for looking at porn.

    Mind you, I've already wrapped my PC in tinfoil, put a false beard on it and called it "Gerry". It'll tell them nothin...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Donald-Duck


    noblestee wrote: »
    What about this part?



    followed by



    Im not a paedophile, an internet fraudster, an identity thief or a terrorist. So unless you are, who cares?

    BECAUSE THE EU ARE TRYING TO CONTROL OUR LIVES. It's an RTDH thread, he strives for the attention by selectivly cutting and pasting into his OP.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    They've just ruined spy movies for our grandchildren.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    chin_grin wrote: »
    Quick guys. EVERYONE. Turn your PC's off.

    Is he gone yet?


  • Moderators Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭LEIN


    noblestee wrote: »
    Im not a paedophile, an internet fraudster, an identity thief or a terrorist. So unless you are, who cares?


    Fair point but my business is mine. I have noting to hide but id rather Keep my personal information personal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    noblestee wrote: »
    What about this part?



    followed by



    Im not a paedophile, an internet fraudster, an identity thief or a terrorist. So unless you are, who cares?
    Would you let the authorities into your house and rummage through your filing cabinet and personal belongings including letters etc without a warrent?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982


    noblestee wrote: »



    Im not a paedophile, an internet fraudster, an identity thief or a terrorist. So unless you are, who cares?

    Neither was Jean Charles De Mendez....be careful or British police will shoot you from inside your monitor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Donald-Duck


    Damo9090 wrote: »
    Fair point but my business is mine. I have noting to hide but id rather Keep my personal information personal.

    Well what business do you do that would lead them to suspect you enough to search your pc?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Donald-Duck


    Would you let the authorities into your house and rummage through your filing cabinet and personal belongings without a warrent?

    If they had reasonable belief I wouldn't care less.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Damo9090 wrote: »
    Fair point but my business is mine. I have noting to hide but id rather Keep my personal information personal.

    You should really get off tinternet so. If goverments can decide to do it, there are a lot more clever people about that could decide to have a snoop if they choose.

    I'm looking at you gay animal porn right now as it happens.
    If they had reasonable belief I wouldn't care less.

    They can look anywhere except my thong drawer.


  • Moderators Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭LEIN


    Well what business do you do that would lead them to suspect you enough to search your pc?


    Sh1t there on to me! Time to burn my hard drive! :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Aw shucks. My fantasy of frollicking freely on AH has been ruined again. I'll get you next time gadget. <meow>


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,811 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    If that did why not just get a search warrant in the first place?
    If they had reasonable belief I wouldn't care less.


  • Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭MackDeToaster


    noblestee wrote: »
    Im not a paedophile, an internet fraudster, an identity thief or a terrorist. So unless you are, who cares?

    Civil liberties ? Innocent unless proven guilty ? It's all mission creep and you can be sure this is only more of the same.

    i don't wear a tinfoil hat but you only have to look at the UK and witness Gordon Brown shutting down Icelandic banks using anti-terrorist legislation of all things, or anti-terrorist legislation being used by county councils to see who's trying to get their kids into schools in different boroughs and the like to see how these powers are abused and used far beyond their supposed original remit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,160 ✭✭✭✭banshee_bones


    Damo9090 wrote: »
    Fair point but my business is mine. I have noting to hide but id rather Keep my personal information personal.


    Exactly. It is still an invasion of privacy


  • Moderators Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭LEIN


    Stekelly wrote: »
    You should really get off tinternet so. If goverments can decide to do it, there are a lot more clever people about that could decide to have a snoop if they choose.

    I'm looking at your gay animal porn right now as it happens.

    Its for a project i am doing up. I swear.:D

    I really do put too much trust in my anti-virus!


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    BOFH_139 wrote: »
    If that did why not just get a search warrant in the first place?

    Whats the difference? All this is doing is cutting out the going to a judge or whoever and getting a warrant bit.

    Mountain range out of a molehill tbh.


    Damo9090 wrote: »
    Its for a project i am doing up. I swear.:D


    pffffft "research for a book" ftw.:)



    Personnally I'm creating an annual of all the filthiest muck on the internet.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    Would you let the authorities into your house and rummage through your filing cabinet and personal belongings including letters etc without a warrent?

    If they had a good reason to then yes, just to disprove them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Cow Moolester


    Lets all look up porn so when they search through our PC's they will think all we do is look at porn.

    Pshh...like I need to be told to do that:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    noblestee wrote: »
    If they had a good reason to then yes, just to disprove them.

    If anything they'd probably just find some stuff for you that you thought you'd lost.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Lets all look up porn so when they search through our PC's they will think all we do is look at porn.

    I've known this was coming for years and have already put in the leg work.


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