Bees dying off, a sign of the Apocalypse?

Run_to_da_hills

Einstein once supposingly remarked that "if bees were to disappear, man would only have a few years to live." Should we be really worried about the death of bees?

Bees are essential for plant pollination, with up to 80% of fruit, nuts, flowers Dependant on bees for fertilizing.

The mysterious death of colonies is being internationally named as "Colony collapse disorder" (CCD) and has being blamed on one or more of the following, the Vampire Mite, (Varroa jacobsoni), greedy crossbreeding beekeepers, air quality, chemical pollutants, viruses, a fungus, poor bee nutrition and even mobile phone radiation has been blamed.

Scientists have yet to pinpoint the problem. :eek:

From the US: "If honeybees ceased to exist, two-thirds of the citrus, all of the watermelons, the blueberries, strawberries, pecans and beans would disappear," said Jerry Hayes, apiary inspection chief with the state's Division of Plant Industry. More than 50 percent of the bees in California, critical to the success of the Golden State's almond crop, have died during the past six months. Frantic growers there have sent out the call around the world, including Florida, for hives.

In Europe bees have been killed off by the millions and environmentalists and honey producers warned today this was a sign of a worrisome turn for the environment with fruit and vegetable production. The Subject has drawn attention at the US Senate and only recently brought to light by Euro MEP's at the EU Parliament. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7739798.stm

Beekeepers predict that honey production could plummet by up to 50% causing the price of the comodity to sky rocket. Fruit and vegetable producers also predict catastrophe if bees continue to disappear.

Hagan Daas have already produced an advertisement and website raising awareness of the Issue. http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/02/hagen-dazs-fund.html Hagan Dazz advertisement.
http://www.helpthehoneybees.com/

A recent episode of Simsons the "Burns and the Bees" took on the subject.
http://www.thedailygreen.com/living-green/blogs/recycling-design-technology/simpsons-colony-collapse-disorder-461208

the_syco

I'd blame winter, or the non-honey bee's. The latter has been killing off the honey bee's for some time, it seems.

amacachi

All the citrus fruits could disappear? Why are they so cheap at the moment so?

OP, where's the conspiracy? Please tell me.

rua327

Bees are dying off because everytime one flies into the house I introduce it to the oven cleaner. Natural Selection imo.

Gunny Hartman

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Should we be really worried about the death of bees?

No.

Run_to_da_hills

amacachi wrote: »

All the citrus fruits could disappear? Why are they so cheap at the moment so?

OP, where's the conspiracy? Please tell me.

The Apocalypse.

It is a problem of Global importance even more so than Global Warming because it is so sudden. Global warming and green issues are already starting world leaders to invoke fascism, inviornmental taxes and fines.

One only has to google the subject and there is something fresh about it by the week. If it continues to persists at this rate it will lead to widespread food shortages on a global scale this could inevitably lead to globalised electronic food rationing through cashless smartcards using product coding to prevent panic buying and hoarding.

biggus

What non meat foods can grow without bees ?

rua327

Wow, thats deep man, Im too busy worrying about my mortgage, job, and trying to get my Nat King Cole to give the bees a dig out. But I like your style.

amacachi

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The Apocalypse.

It is a problem of Global importance even more so than Global Warming because it is so sudden. Global warming and green issues are already starting world leaders to invoke fascism, inviornmental taxes and fines.

One only has to google the subject and there is something fresh about it by the week. If it continues to persists at this rate it will lead to widespread food shortages on a global scale this could inevitably lead to globalised electronic food rationing through cashless smartcards using product coding to prevent panic buying and hoarding.

Seriously how are you not banned for trolling?

Who is conspiring to end the world? Have the NWO come up with a new bee-killing nano-robot?

There's something fresh on google every week involving some number of girls and a lesser number of cups, so should we assume that that's going to cause the end of the world?

Run_to_da_hills

amacachi wrote: »

Seriously how are you not banned for trolling?

Who is conspiring to end the world? Have the NWO come up with a new bee-killing nano-robot?

There's something fresh on google every week involving some number of girls and a lesser number of cups, so should we assume that that's going to cause the end of the world?

Because I like to expose topics of importance instead of sticking my head in the sand.

And NO, the Global elite do not have a "bee killing robots" but thy do have a tendency to take on crisis of significant importance and twist them around to suit their own agenda. This can be seen after 9/11 with the "war on terror" and the roll out of microchipped passport ID.

amacachi

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Because I like to expose topics of importance instead of sticking my head in the sand.

Is that whilst not answering questions that people have?

King Mob

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Because I like to expose topics of importance instead of sticking my head in the sand.

Exposing?
The nwo aren't exactly covering this thing up.
Maybe you have some evidence as to how they are causing it?

TBH the only thing you expose is the fact that you can see a conspiracy in anything.
Do you honestly think anyone takes you seriously?

Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

Exposing?
The nwo aren't exactly covering this thing up.
Maybe you have some evidence as to how they are causing it?

TBH the only thing you expose is the fact that you can see a conspiracy in anything.
Do you honestly think anyone takes you seriously?

This might explain what i am on about. :rolleyes:

littlejp

I remember seein a documentary about this. The bees have recently realised that humans have been exploiting them for honey for years and have gone on strike. Once they realise the other problems this causes we can all learn to live together.

King Mob

WOW! That picture has convinced me.
Awesome tactic by the way "If you don't believe me you're obviously stupid".
Bet you've convinced tons of people (Or should I say Sheeple because it just gets funnier and more original every time.) However I should point out that most people in Ireland don't watch fox news. Also very few rational people around the world even acknowledge Bill O'Reilly as a journalist.


So how exactly are you exposing something that isn't being covered up?
Have you any evidence that the NWO has a hand in its cause?
Hell is there anything in the bible that you can twist like you usually do to link the disappearing of the bees to the apocalypse?

I'd bet a tenner you gonna ignore at least one of those questions

Sofa_King Good

This seems to explain it quite well. http://articles.latimes.com/2007/apr/26/science/sci-bees26

"And this is from Penn State: Why are there fewer bees?
Mites and pesticides. Two parasitic mites – the tracheal mite and the varroa mite- are like little blood-sucking vampires on the honey bees. The mites were introduced to the U.S. in the 1980s. The mites feed on bee ‘blood’ and will eventually kill the bee. Infected colonies of bees lose strength and in time the colony will die.
Beekeepers treat their hives with chemicals to kill the mites and keep the colony alive as long as possible.
Despite the effort that beekeepers make to keep honey bee colonies alive, millions of colonies have died. Since 1990 we have lost one quarter (almost 1 million) of all managed honey bee colonies. And in recent years, some areas have lost almost 100% of their wild honey bee colonies. Wild honey bees cannot survive because there is no beekeeper to medicate them and make sure they live. So it’s no wonder you’re seeing fewer honey bees!"

For me that clears it up. And another anomaly is that CCD doesn't occur in Australia, how would you explain that?

[IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/MADELE%7E1/LOKALA%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-10.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/MADELE%7E1/LOKALA%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-11.jpg[/IMG]

Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

Have you any evidence that the NWO has a hand in its cause?

Did I blame the "NWO" for the decline in bee colonies? :rolleyes: I mentioned that they can twist a circumstances to suit their own agenda.

King Mob wrote: »

I'd bet a tenner you gonna ignore at least one of those questions

You owe me a tenner.:)

King Mob wrote: »

Hell is there anything in the bible that you can twist like you usually do to link the disappearing of the bees to the apocalypse? ?

Famine is known to be the "black horsemen" out of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse.
"Food will be scarce, but luxuries such as wine and oil will still be readily available". Grapes and olives incidently do not require bees for pollination.

Kevster

This bee problem indeed has the potential to be great (in a bad sense), but we will also have food shortages due to other issues such as overpopulation, loss of viable land due to desertification and commercialisation, and poor support to farmers by governments around the world.

Did any of you ever get the feeling that the human race is ever so slowly (and metaphorically) choking itself to death? I don't know about you, but I cannot wait until we are all dead and are no more (as a species). We are the most invasive species there is, and Earth could do much better without us.

King Mob

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Did I blame the "NWO" for the decline in bee colonies? :rolleyes: I mentioned that they can twist a circumstances to suit their own agenda.

And care to back that up with anything at all?

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You owe me a tenner.:)

You still ignored a question. Like you always do.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Famine is known to be the "black horsemen" out of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse.
"Food will be scarce, but luxuries such as wine and oil will still be readily available". Grapes and olives incidently do not require bees for pollination.

Funnily enough neither does meat or most crops and grasses. If fact I don't think the bees disappearing will cause any famine.
So then there is nothing in the bible about bees disappearing? Just making it up then?


Seems to me you're just scaremongering. So let's see: you use propaganda as well religious propaganda, refusing to knowledge mistakes, rewriting posts after people reply to them, and now scaremongering. Who is it you always accuse of using tactics like these?

Gordon

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

This might explain what i am on about. :rolleyes:

Intriguing..

Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

And care to back that up with anything at all?
You still ignored a question. Like you always do.

I already did, :rolleyes: IE the introduction of microchipped passports after 9/11.

King Mob wrote: »

Funnily enough neither does meat or most crops and grasses.

In fact, honey bee pollination is responsible for the growth of all fruits and many vegetables as well as livestock feed.

It is estimated that bees pollinate one third of American food and three quarters of plants, including crops, fruits, vegetables, seeds, nuts, even cotton that is used in fabrics.
http://www.articlesbase.com/environment-articles/colony-collapse-disorder-and-the-human-bee-519377.html

If fact you could be right, disappearing bees may not cause any concern on global food supplies because people could rely on fish and also take syrup in their coffee instead of honey. :rolleyes:

King Mob wrote: »

So then there is nothing in the bible about bees disappearing? Just making it up then?

You are the only person that has dragged the Bible into into this whole topic apart from the title mention. Did I say that there was any mention of bees disappearing in the Bible?. :rolleyes:

King Mob wrote: »

Seems to me you're just scaremongering.

Colony Collapse Disorder is a FACT. Potential food scarcity due to CCD is a FACT. If you don't believe it google it instead of trying redicule the matter.

King Mob

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I already did, :rolleyes: IE the introduction of microchipped passports after 9/11.

So no you have no evidence to suggest that the NWO are doing this with CCD.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

In fact, honey bee pollination is responsible for the growth of all fruits and many vegetables as well as livestock feed.

It is estimated that bees pollinate one third of American food and three quarters of plants, including crops, fruits, vegetables, seeds, nuts, even cotton that is used in fabrics.
http://www.articlesbase.com/environment-articles/colony-collapse-disorder-and-the-human-bee-519377.html

So not counting reserves and imports then? But never let something like facts and reality stand in the way of a good conspiracy.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

If fact you could be right, disappearing bees may not cause any concern on global food supplies because people could rely on fish and also take syrup in their coffee instead of honey. :rolleyes:

Or maybe develop food crops that don't rely on bees. Or maybe invest in the development of a cure? But the NWO will probably make that illeagal for some reason.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You are the only person that has dragged the Bible into into this whole topic apart from the title mention. Did I say that there was any mention of bees disappearing in the Bible?. :rolleyes:

So then what leads you to believe that it is a sign of the apocalypse?
Usually signs of the apocalypse are found in the bible (or more accurately bible passages interpreted to mean whatever a person would like them to say.)

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Colony Collapse Disorder is a FACT. Potential food scarcity due to CCD is a FACT. If you don't believe it google it instead of trying redicule the matter.

Well no, food scarcity due to CCD isn't a fact, it's a possibility. A worst case scenario. And stating as indisputable fact in order to convince people of a NWO is......:eek: scaremongering!

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Yay! More propaganda!

Run_to_da_hills

Some questions don't warrent answers. Either they have been explained already or else they are so damn stupid. Rolleyes are more appropriate.

King Mob wrote: »

So no you have no evidence to suggest that the NWO are doing this with CCD.

. :rolleyes:

King Mob wrote: »

Or maybe develop food crops that don't rely on bees. Or maybe invest in the development of a cure?

Or employ people to go around polinating all the flowers with a feathered brush, :rolleyes:

King Mob wrote: »

So then what leads you to believe that it is a sign of the apocalypse

:rolleyes:

More appropriate propaganda photo for you.

King Mob

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Some posts don't warrent answers.
.

You mean the one that raise valid points that kinda go against your ridiculous theory. We're all kind of used to that

But if my points are so bad why not counter them with some thing other than "Blah blah RFID 666 :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:"

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

:rolleyes:
Or employ people to go around polinating all the flowers with a feathered brush, :rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

Case and point.

Care to explain the huge logical leap you're making between CCD and cashless money?


So it's ok to use propaganda then? As long as it's for the greater good, right?

starn

King Mob with all due respect lay of Run_to_the_hills. If he say that dissapeaing bees are a sign of the apocalypse. Well then I agree with him. After all he should know. He is the Antichrist afterall and its his party.

Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

You mean the one that raise valid points that kinda go against your ridiculous theory. We're all kind of used to that
?

Just like international terrorism, global warming and the recent economic crash.
But of course Bees are have no significance in the world today, they are just small insects that make honey to sweeten your cup of Starbrooks coffee. :rolleyes:.

King Mob wrote: »

But if my points are so bad why not counter them with some thing other than "Blah blah RFID 666 :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:"

Because RFID and Human Implantable microchips are a FACT and are no longer prophecy. :rolleyes:

King Mob wrote: »

Care to explain the huge logical leap you're making between CCD and cashless money?

Cashless smartcard technology enables powers that would almost be impossible to impose using cash and this is the way foreword whether you want it to be this way or not.

Computerized food rationing is just one of many reason for imposing it other valids reasons are for track & trace, the sale of prohibited and restricted goods. It will eventually become the "mark" in the hand.

King Mob wrote: »

So it's ok to use propaganda then? As long as it's for the greater good, right?

Some things are just better off explained with diagrams.:D

Bee Larva.



NWO larva. :eek:

starn

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Because RFID and Human Implantable microchips are a FACT and are no longer prophecy. :rolleyes:

Where exactly does it say that anything about RFID in the bible. Or did I just skim over that bit


What is this supposed to be, wall brackets

NWO larva. :eek:

King Mob

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Just like international terrorism, global warming and the recent economic crash.

Oh I remember when you used logic and verifiable evidence that these were orchestrated by the NWO..... No wait...... you didn't.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

But of course Bees are have no significance in the world today, they are just small insects that make honey to sweeten your cup of Starbrooks coffee. :rolleyes:.

Yes because thats exactly what I said.....No wait......no I didn't.
Would you like to keep using Strawmen arguments?

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Because RFID and Human Implantable microchips are a FACT and are no longer prophecy. :rolleyes:
Cashless smartcard technology enables powers that would almost be impossible to impose using cash and this is the way foreword whether you want it to be this way or not.

I remember when you provide a valid reason why they would do this........No wait...... no you didn't.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Computerized food rationing is just one of many reason for imposing it other valids reasons are for track & trace, the sale of prohibited and restricted goods. It will eventually become the "mark" in the hand.

Because everything leads to RFID666 in your world apparently. Unless you have some kind of reasoning behind this. Severely doubt it.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Some things are just better off explained with diagrams.:D

Do you realise how hypocrictical that is? Probably not.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Bee Larva.



NWO larva. :eek:

Yea that makes no sense what so ever. The NWO are implanting us with alien bugs?

Run_to_da_hills

starn wrote: »

Where exactly does it say that anything about RFID in the bible. Or did I just skim over that bit

Nothing about RFID but dose mention implanted marks in the hand in order to make commercial transactions. Take note of the word IN, this obviously rules out the barcode tattoo.

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads":

"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark",
Revelation 13.

starn wrote: »

What is this supposed to be, wall brackets

Pretty small wall brackets,

You need to zoom in.

King Mob

WOW upon closer inspection RFID chips look nothing in the slightest like Bee larva. But hey who cares about stuff like facts?

You can't possibly believe anyone takes you seriously anymore right?

starn

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Nothing about RFID but dose mention implanted marks in the hand in order to make commercial transactions. Take note of the word IN, this obviously rules out the barcode tattoo.

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads":

"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark",
Revelation 13.

It also says that Pie is exactly 3. If you can show me a circle which has a ratio of its circumpharence that is exactly 3 as opposed to 3.141592. I might be a bit more inclined to belive you

1 Kings 7:23 (King James Version)

23And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round abou

2 Chronicles 4
The Temple's Furnishings
1 He made a bronze altar twenty cubits long, twenty cubits wide and ten cubits high. [a] 2 He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim and five cubits high. It took a line of thirty cubits [c] to measure around it. 3 Below the rim, figures of bulls encircled it—ten to a cubit. [d] The bulls were cast in two rows in one piece with the Sea.