Help Desk post about Mahatmas incompenatnt modding last night

starn

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=58243395&posted=1#post58243395

WhaLofShi

Ok Folks, move along.

Seems there's nothing to see here.

the_syco

Tbh, this looks like a conspiracy against Mahatmas!

conceited

He's acting like a dictator !!!! :pac:

Sofa_King Good

Starn, this is all a bit rich coming from you after you personally abused me in a PM only last week dont ya think?

starn

No


I dont run a forum and moderate it like my own little feifedom. Banning posters because I dont agree with them or demanding other users real names "because Im a mod and im allowed"

Sofa_King Good

starn wrote: »

Which forum do I moderate Sofa King ???

Doesn't matter, rules are rules for all to obeyed.

Vegeta

This is not my forum but if someone posted a thread like this in the forum I moderate it would get moved straight to feedback/help desk

There are already 2 threads there about it, that not enough?

starn

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Doesn't matter, rules are rules for all to obeyed.

So why isnt MC following them. He should go back to Stormfront

starn

Vegeta wrote: »

This is not my forum but if someone posted a thread like this in the forum I moderate it would get moved straight to feedback/help desk

There are already 2 threads there about it, that not enough?

If you see here
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055439900&page=2

Seamus has told us to basically sort it out among ourselfs. So Im going to ask the Mods to start a thread with a open poll [Where we can see who is voting, and who they have voted for] asking if MC should stay on as a Mod. If the majority of people thing he should stay on I'll say fair enough. But I think if the majority of posters say he should go he should go:)

The_Minister

The rules for hosted forums are different than normal fora.

seamus

starn wrote: »

Seamus has told us to basically sort it out among ourselfs. So Im going to open another thread with a poll asking if MC should stay on as a Mod. If the majority of people thing he should stay on I'll say fair enough. But I think if the majority of posters say he should go he should go

That's not exactly the kind of "sorting it out" I meant. A poll doesn't really say anything without the input of the other moderators IMO.

starn

Thats fair enough Seamus. But can you please tell us had this been one of the real forums. Would you still allow MC to MOD

its posted under the name of boards.ie, and its content is hosted by boards.ie

So why don't the rules of boards.ie apply?

GhostInTheRuins

Why is CT a hosted forum anyway? Unless I'm missing the point of the hosted forums, most of them seem to be related to businesses, ie radio stations, sports clubs etc. Why isn't CT a 'normal' forum so to speak?

The_Minister

seamus wrote: »

That's not exactly the kind of "sorting it out" I meant. A poll doesn't really say anything without the input of the other moderators IMO.

Pfft. You know you can't take it back, there is now only one solution now....



....THUNDERDOME!!!

Vegeta

The_Minister wrote: »

Pfft. You know you can't take it back, there is now only one solution now....



....THUNDERDOME!!!

Or Seamus could just delete all of this stuff and give folk something to really talk about

Away with you and your boring ideas!

Mob justice for the win. Its what seamus suggested anyway!

The_Minister

Aye, I suggest we follow Seamus' idea and start cracking people's heads open and feasting on the goo inside.

Nerin

The_Minister wrote: »

Aye, I suggest we follow Seamus' idea and start cracking people's heads open and feasting on the goo inside.

Banned from the zombie survival forum.

Flamed Diving

It was just a joke, gone wrong. Am I the only one who thinks this?

Sofa_King Good

it would seem he was just feckin about

Vegeta

Flamed Diving wrote: »

It was just a joke, gone wrong. Am I the only one who thinks this?

I think it was a new mod who didn't understand how to fully use the mod controls

Or that he was a plant by Admins and SMods to stir up some controversy in the forum

Vegeta

Nerin wrote: »

Banned from the zombie survival forum.

Good catch, you have to be vigilant with these types of things

starn

Vegeta wrote: »

I think it was a new mod who didn't understand how to fully use the mod controls

Or that he was a plant by Admins and SMods to stir up some controversy in the forum

Its not just this. There have been other insrances such as DEMANDING that a poster revel there real name. CT claimed he was perfectly entitiled to know this as a Mod. The guy is on a constant power trip and need to be repremanded, removed or asked to step down.

Gordon

starn wrote: »

Its not just this. There have been other insrances such as DEMANDING that a poster revel there real name. CT claimed he was perfectly entitiled to know this as a Mod. The guy is on a constant power trip and need to be repremanded, removed or asked to step down.

Link or it didn't happen.

starn

It starts on post 79
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055432270&page=6

Gordon

starn wrote: »

It starts on post 79
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055432270&page=6

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. It's not up to the mod to do that kind of work, he should have requested a Smod to look into his suspicions if he had any. However, he was not to know this, and I have not talked with him about this. He was within his rights to find out if the user was a re-reg but should have gone through a higher mod, ie - me. This is due to him not knowing the procedures, yes, but does not make him unfit to mod as it is procedural imo. I am also to blame for not speaking with him about it.

bonkey

starn wrote: »

So Im going to ask the Mods to start a thread with a open poll [Where we can see who is voting, and who they have voted for] asking if MC should stay on as a Mod.

Thats very Big Brotherish of you...

starn

bonkey wrote: »

Thats very Big Brotherish of you...

???

bonkey

You're not content with one of the basic, underlying concepts of modern democracy - the secret ballot.

You're not even content with knowing who voted...for whatever reason you'd want to know that for.

No...rather you want complete knowledge of who expressed an opinion each way.

Big Brother may not be watching us, but you apparently want to.

starn

No Im asking for a open ballot. Otherwise me and my secret cabal could just create dozens of false accounts and vote for Mohatmia to go.

SteelyDanJalapeno

Ignorance of procedure on his behalf isn't really an excuse in my opinion,

He's a mod, i think he should know procedure

bonkey

starn wrote: »

No Im asking for a open ballot. Otherwise me and my secret cabal could just create dozens of false accounts and vote for Mohatmia to go.

Ah, I see. You want to watch us for our own good.

That changes everything.

Gordon

Horgan wrote: »

Ignorance of procedure on his behalf isn't really an excuse in my opinion,

He's a mod, i think he should know procedure

Yes, because mods are born with inherent procedure manuals embedded into their brainskins..

Red Sleeping Beauty

bonkey wrote: »

You're not content with one of the basic, underlying concepts of modern democracy - the secret ballot.

Boards.ie isn't a democracy.

Diogenes

Gordon wrote: »

Yes, because mods are born with inherent procedure manuals embedded into their brainskins..

And yet I've never once seen a new Mod on any other boards forum, delete a thread because it exposed their racism, and then ban a user for giggles.

Gordon

Diogenes wrote: »

And yet I've never once seen a new Mod on any other boards forum, delete a thread because it exposed their racism, and then ban a user for giggles.

In fairness, you wouldn't have seen the deleted threads because they were deleted. There have been cases where mods banned people for giggles. I can't link to any situations though, but I'm very sure it has happened.

SteelyDanJalapeno

Gordon wrote: »

Yes, because mods are born with inherent procedure manuals embedded into their brainskins..

????
ridiculous post.

Time Magazine

Gordon wrote: »

In fairness, you wouldn't have seen the deleted threads because they were deleted. There have been cases where mods banned people for giggles. I can't link to any situations though, but I'm very sure it has happened.

Here's one :pac:

Red Sleeping Beauty

Gordon wrote: »

In fairness, you wouldn't have seen the deleted threads because they were deleted. There have been cases where mods banned people for giggles. I can't link to any situations though, but I'm very sure it has happened.

I just saw this from the Awards forum polls

Gordon wrote: »

Yes, because mods are born with inherent procedure manuals embedded into their brainskins..

Surely yis don't just give people the Mod Buttons and say "gwan off and learn how to do it yrself" ?? Is there not some Mod faq or something ?

Gordon

alan dunne 27 wrote: »

I just saw this from the Awards forum polls



Surely yis don't just give people the Mod Buttons and say "gwan off and learn how to do it yrself" ?? Is there not some Mod faq or something ?

There is, yeah, but not actually for Hosted mods afaik as it is not visible to them. But that's a great point, I'll get on to copying some threads to the HMod forum and start a ZATAOM thread there shortly.

Red Sleeping Beauty

I'm quite confused by this "hosted" vs "normal" boards.ie forums stuff, so I started a thread here.
It seems that the normal boards mods seem to like to let the hosted people have their own little sandbox but today obviously there's been some overspill of hosted sand into the main sandbox.

SteelyDanJalapeno

alan dunne 27 wrote: »

I'm quite confused by this "hosted" vs "normal" boards.ie forums stuff, so I started a thread here.
It seems that the normal boards mods seem to like to let the hosted people have their own little sandbox but today obviously there's been some overspill of hosted sand into the main sandbox.

I'm very confused about the whole thing...

too much sand.

starn

bonkey wrote: »

Ah, I see. You want to watch us for our own good.

That changes everything.

No now your trying to twist my words. Seamus washed his hands the incident and suggested that we sort it out between ourselfs.

I agree we your post in the other thread regarding the charter. But the mod invovled obiouslty abused there power and hasnt apologised to The Econimist. This is no the first time the mod involved has done so and im sure it wont be the last.

nyarlothothep

storm in a teacup if you ask me

bonkey

starn wrote: »

No now your trying to twist my words.

Not really. I was trying to show that I don't like your idea. I take your point about the risk of sock-puppet accounts and the like, but at best that calls for knowing who voted.

There is no valid reason that I can see for needing to know what way people voted. This forum is divided enough.

Seamus washed his hands the incident and suggested that we sort it out between ourselfs.

And so it should become a popularity contest? Because make no mistake...that's what it will mostly be, if it comes to a vote. Those who are pro-conspiracy will mostly vote for keeping MC, and those who are anti- will mostly vote to get rid of him.

Hmmm...maybe that is a valid reason to have an open vote...we could see that my prediction is right, then whoever didn't like the result could argue that it should be thrown out on the grounds that the forum policy shouldn't be "mob rule" by "pros" or "antis".

But the mod invovled obiouslty abused there power and hasnt apologised to The Econimist. This is no the first time the mod involved has done so and im sure it wont be the last.

You'll notice that I've avoided commenting on his actions, nor have I tried to prevent the discussion from continuing.

I'm merely pointing out that I don't think the current approach offers any good solutions.

starn

bonkey wrote: »

You'll notice that I've avoided commenting on his actions, nor have I tried to prevent the discussion from continuing.

I'm merely pointing out that I don't think the current approach offers any good solutions.

I have and realsise that you have to be completely nuetral. I think it is a little unfair discussing this without MC. Im probably more guilty of this then anyone else. So until MC logs on and posts Im going to stop judging him in his abscence.

I also think you have a made a very good point about a vote. The Boards mods have really left you so swing with this one. Its going to be hard to resolve and your right the charter is the best place to do start.

But I dont think MC can continue Modding the way he has been

miju

thread locked. theres a thread in the Feedback section of boards on this topic already so take it there.

Anyone re-opens a thread on a similiar topic in the CT forum will earn an immediate 2 month ban